New ufo show in the works ?

Hello all
I am a new member. I found a couple of articles from around 2003
stateing that Carlton international media was in the beginning stages
of produceing a new ufo tv show to be shown in the U.S. market. Has
anyone heard about this ???????????????????????????????
Lets keep our chins up....if they did it for Battle star galactica
then there is hope for Ufo.
Marc Stewart

> I am a new member. I found a couple of articles from around 2003
> stateing that Carlton international media was in the beginning stages
> of produceing a new ufo tv show to be shown in the U.S. market. Has
> anyone heard about this ???????????????????????????????

There was a brief amount of coverage on this, and then nothing. I
followed up with one of the people credited with working on this
about a year or two ago, and they said that the project wasn't dead,
but also it wasn't going anywhere fast...

Marc

Hi gang - I'm coming out of lurk mode to comment on the questions about a
UFO movie or whatever. One comment was that Battlestar Galactica was remade.
Well, I think one of the major probs is that UFO was made in GB. If UFO had
been made in the USA, we wouldn't be talking about the possibility of a UFO
remake, we'd be watching it or renting it. Look at all the gawdawful
AMERICAN so-called SF shows which have found new life as new TV shows or
movies: Lost in Space, BG, even My Favourite Martian, a miniseries was done
on The Invaders back in the 1990's, even a reunion of the MFU was done in
the late 1980's with Robert Vaughn and David McCallum.

The 'talk' was that Pen Densham of the Outer Limits was going to helm a new
UFO movie and/or feature. With the passing of Bishop and Billington, I have
to honestly say I have lost interest in the very idea of a new UFO in any
way. I am quite content to re-watch the original eps and enjoy the way it
was meant to be with our heroes.

On a similar thread, think of the mindbending concept of a pre-Enterprise
saga of Kirk and Spock at the StarFleet Academy - this really IS in the
works, with the producers of Lost at the helm. There has been a HORRIBLE
rumour they are trying to sign Matt Damon as Kirk! Someone hand me a barf
bucket! This is also truly outside Trek canon as Kirk and Spock did NOT meet
until Kirk took command of the Enterprise from Captain Pike and Spock was
promoted to First Officer. Paramount will admit to kicking Brannon Braga and
Mike Berman off the Trek gravy train - a smart but too late move as they
were totally creatively bankrupt (Enterprise and Voyager were proof of that)
- but can you imagine our beloved UFO ending up in the hands of some hack
who doesn't even KNOW SF or care? It's just a job, an assignment to him! If
UFO were EVER to be re-done - Gerry Anderson HAS to be prominently involved
I think. Perhaps he could even find a way to do some flashbacks which would
at least include our departed heros....

Pam the Canuck

I'm with completely with you on this one Pat. I think we've been here before.

I don't want to sound like a 'stick in the mud', but surely 'someone' in movie
land has imagination enough to come up with a new idea instead of ticking off
and infuriating a loyal fan base. Why do we need all these wretched and in 99%
of cases dreadful remakes? Okay, they know they have an audience who loves a
concept (such as UFO), they love them enough to buy the videos, DVD, watch the
reruns on Sky etc. Then they think okay, we have a captive audience... so what
do they do? they make a movie... but they doom it from the ground up. They
ignore what we love about the concept in the first place, restyle, reprofile,
repackage it do death, so that the final output is unrecognisable other than the
name, and the merest tiniest plot theme...

Remakes.... who needs'um...

I love UFO as it was created (with all its flaws), and it still gives me the
same thrill, excitement and that weird sense of the sinister that so enthralled
me when I was a child of about 8 when I first saw it... I've never seen anything
so touch it, it was a one-off and has held a place inside me that has stayed
with me all my life...

Phew... sorry about that. Just had to get 'that' off my chest...

Best to all,

Griff


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ant remake of UFO would need to follow the original faithfully. I
think I'd grefer to watch the originals too! After all, not only the
actors but especially those that direct and produce the thing made the
show




--- In [hidden email], "Griff" <glwason@...> wrote:
>
> I'm with completely with you on this one Pat. I think we've been
here before.
>  
> I don't want to sound like a 'stick in the mud', but surely
'someone' in movie
> land has imagination enough to come up with a new idea instead of
ticking off
> and infuriating a loyal fan base. Why do we need all these wretched
and in 99%
> of cases dreadful remakes? Okay, they know they have an audience who
loves a
> concept (such as UFO), they love them enough to buy the videos, DVD,
watch the
> reruns on Sky etc. Then they think okay, we have a captive
audience... so what
> do they do? they make a movie... but they doom it from the ground
up. They
> ignore what we love about the concept in the first place, restyle,
reprofile,
> repackage it do death, so that the final output is unrecognisable
other than the
> name, and the merest tiniest plot theme...
>  
> Remakes.... who needs'um...
>  
> I love UFO as it was created (with all its flaws), and it still
gives me the
> same thrill, excitement and that weird sense of the sinister that so
enthralled
> me when I was a child of about 8 when I first saw it... I've never
seen anything
> so touch it, it was a one-off and has held a place inside me that
has stayed

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 06:31:15 -0000
"buggerzionagain" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> any remake of UFO would need to follow the original faithfully.

Why? What worked for audiences in 1970 wouldn't necessarily work
for audiences in 2006+ ..

And come to think of it it didn't work that well in 1970, either.
It did for me, but it wasn't exactly a huge success.

James

>> I am a new member. I found a couple of articles from around 2003
>> stateing that Carlton international media was in the beginning stages
>> of produceing a new ufo tv show to be shown in the U.S. market. Has
>> anyone heard about this ???????????????????????????????

Following up on this topic, I get a few emails every year from people
who are interested in resurrecting UFO as either a TV series or a film.
Usually these people ask me who owns the copyright to the series, and
then I never hear from them again!

(the most recent occurrence of this was just a week ago!)

Marc

In a message dated 7/16/2006 4:27:24 PM Central Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:
<<
Why? What worked for audiences in 1970 wouldn't necessarily work
for audiences in 2006+ ..
>>

What changes should be made? Maybe a darker show, with one
of the SHADO regulars being discovered mid-season to be an
alien in disguise?

Evelyn Duncan
[hidden email]
If the kitty ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.

Out of lurking here....
   
I'm not against a new show if it doesn't try to be a remake of the old. We all know they can't reproduce the old without the old actor/actresses, sets, etc. So why try to recreate the old. But there is so much more content that could be explored with the same theme of "secret military organization hunting UFO's." The whole theme of being under a movie studio is fabulous....why let it die with only 23 short episodes. I'd love to see something new, but not trying to redoux the old...can't be done. Let them use some of the themes and build upon them though...
   
back into lurking....
   
Mary

 
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--- In [hidden email], "Griff" <glwason@...> wrote:
 
<< I don't want to sound like a 'stick in the mud', but surely
'someone' in movie land has imagination enough to come up with a new
idea instead of ticking off and infuriating a loyal fan base. Why do
we need all these wretched and in 99% of cases dreadful remakes? >>

Because the ideas are out there which makes them easy to work up for a
2006+ audience and probably more importantly, half the marketing is
already done for them if the movie is already a recognisable "brand".
Think Thunderbirds, Starsky & Hutch etc.

<< Okay, they know they have an audience who loves a concept (such as
UFO), they love them enough to buy the videos, DVD, watch the reruns
on Sky etc. Then they think okay, we have a captive audience... so
what do they do? they make a movie... but they doom it from the ground
up. They ignore what we love about the concept in the first place,
restyle, reprofile, repackage it do death, so that the final output is
unrecognisable other than the name, and the merest tiniest plot
theme... >>

I don't think they are particularly made for the original fan base.
Nice if the fan base isn't alienated ;) and likes it but producing a
product that puts bums on seats and delivers a profit is the aim - and
not always achieved. UFO, much as I love it, doesn't have a fan base
of sufficient size to influence producers or movie studios. To be
honest, I don't think it has sufficient profile to ever get remade in
any form we'd recognise it. Which is probably a good thing.

Carly

good one your right on the money but if the can do a good job at it let them i love to see it but you know they will F ,, IT UP

catalpa <[hidden email]> wrote: --- In [hidden email], "Griff" <glwason@...> wrote:

<< I don't want to sound like a 'stick in the mud', but surely
'someone' in movie land has imagination enough to come up with a new
idea instead of ticking off and infuriating a loyal fan base. Why do
we need all these wretched and in 99% of cases dreadful remakes? >>

Because the ideas are out there which makes them easy to work up for a
2006+ audience and probably more importantly, half the marketing is
already done for them if the movie is already a recognisable "brand".
Think Thunderbirds, Starsky & Hutch etc.

<< Okay, they know they have an audience who loves a concept (such as
UFO), they love them enough to buy the videos, DVD, watch the reruns
on Sky etc. Then they think okay, we have a captive audience... so
what do they do? they make a movie... but they doom it from the ground
up. They ignore what we love about the concept in the first place,
restyle, reprofile, repackage it do death, so that the final output is
unrecognisable other than the name, and the merest tiniest plot
theme... >>

I don't think they are particularly made for the original fan base.
Nice if the fan base isn't alienated ;) and likes it but producing a
product that puts bums on seats and delivers a profit is the aim - and
not always achieved. UFO, much as I love it, doesn't have a fan base
of sufficient size to influence producers or movie studios. To be
honest, I don't think it has sufficient profile to ever get remade in
any form we'd recognise it. Which is probably a good thing.

Carly






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Hi gang - coming out of lurk for a second - Carly mentioned remakes and how
they all stink and I had forgotten that the Thunderbirds had been remade,
repackaged and re-cast with HUMAN actors instead of the puppets and it STILL
crashed and burned - nobody went to it. This was also a formerly popular GA
show. So if the Thunderbirds concept flopped, it doesn't make me too
sanguine about UFO....Pam the Canuck

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Hey I do recall that Team America flick now that you mention it! Of course I
haven't seen it bit it WAS made with the puppets right? Pam the Canuck

> Hey I do recall that Team America flick now that you mention it! Of
> course I haven't seen it bit it WAS made with the puppets right?

Yes... the whole film was rather "Thunderbirds-like", with the
same sort of puppets and huge sets. Although since this was
from the makers of "South Park", Thunderbirds was much more
wholesome... :-)

Marc