RE: Digest Number 3048

>> >Sadly the nature of the aliens changed several times, before the show
>> >ended. By the end, they seemed to be energy creatures that "possessed"
>> >physical bodies.



Actually - the whole 'energy being' hypothesis was Jackson's brainstorm and
not well supported by fact. An alien had been found and it appeared as
though it was entirely human, although the brain was too damaged to tell if
it was fully human or not. A better hypothesis (and simpler one) would be
that the aliens were also grabbing humans to control them (ala Craig
Collins) for cannon fodder.



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That makes a lot more sense, particularly accounting for the cat "possessed"
by the aliens, and the humans sent to kill Straker. As Sherlock Holmes would
note, it does fit the known facts, but the data seems incomplete.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Dandello <[hidden email]> wrote:


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Hi all - I've always gone with the theory, partly based on the series that a) the aliens were humanoids from a dying planet who used us for organ replacement and other bodily needs and b) they did sometimes use humans from earth (a la Craig Collins) for various purposes. I never at any point believed they were anything but the above. I've watched all 26 eps over and over within the last year and I have yet to get how anyone could have considered them energy beings....for the requirements of fan fiction, and to make their agendas seem even darker, I've depicted them always as humanOID, enough like us to use our organs for replacements, but enough NOT like us to have problems living in our atmosphere - to that end I've done a regular thread in which SHADO finds out the aliens are busy trying to make human-alien hybrids who will be able to take over our world FOR them. Pam the Canuck

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Very logical deductions - and fitting all the evidence provided in the 26
episodes. As with Star Trek fan fiction, sometimes writers impose their own
obsessions on to the official version and distort it and manipulate it,,,
sometimes to such an extent that it bears no relationship to the original
narrative.



Fan fiction that sticks to the script (indeed, which could realistically be
seen AS a script for an unfilmed episode) is fine, but some should best be
ignored.



From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2009 6:56 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [SHADO] RE: on the nature of the aliens









Hi all - I've always gone with the theory, partly based on the series that
a) the aliens were humanoids from a dying planet who used us for organ
replacement and other bodily needs and b) they did sometimes use humans from
earth (a la Craig Collins) for various purposes. I never at any point
believed they were anything but the above. I've watched all 26 eps over and
over within the last year and I have yet to get how anyone could have
considered them energy beings....for the requirements of fan fiction, and to
make their agendas seem even darker, I've depicted them always as humanOID,
enough like us to use our organs for replacements, but enough NOT like us to
have problems living in our atmosphere - to that end I've done a regular
thread in which SHADO finds out the aliens are busy trying to make
human-alien hybrids who will be able to take over our world FOR them. Pam
the Canuck

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Hi Pam :)

Totally agree 100%

In some ways, I have always viewed "The cat with ten lives" as a script (written and directed by David Tomblin" that escaped through Gerry Anderson's and Tony Barwick's safety net. It takes UFO into an area I have always had trouble with...

I do not - of course - mean ANY disrespect at all to David and his fine work. It's just that when I first saw TCWTL, it 'threw a spanner into the 'UFO' works' and didn't really sit comfortably with the rest of the episodes.

Of course, this is just one of the wonderful things about UFO. It makes onethink, and the reason for this is the fact that so much was left out "intentionally???", and leaves the viewer to 'fill in the gaps', and for an 8 year old kid (as I was at the time), it left a whole world of possibilities that have never left me. A kids imagination and minds eye are very powerful things.

I think this is something that is so sadly overlooked by current films and TV series... the kids today just watch them, everything is seemingly explained and micro-analyzed leaving little room for imagination.

Of course, this is all my own opinion.

Best to all :)

Griff



--- In [hidden email], "Pam McCaughey" <mccaug@...> wrote:

Hi all - I've always gone with the theory, partly based on the series that

a) the aliens were humanoids from a dying planet who used us for organ replacement and other bodily needs and

b) they did sometimes use humans from earth (a la Craig Collins) for various purposes. I never at any point believed they were anything but the above.I've watched all 26 eps over and over within the last year and I have yet to get how anyone could have considered them energy beings....

for the requirements of fan fiction, and to make their agendas seem even darker, I've depicted them always as humanOID, enough like us to use our organs for replacements, but enough NOT like us to have problems living in our atmosphere - to that end I've done a regular thread in which SHADO finds out the aliens are busy trying to make human-alien hybrids who will be able to take over our world FOR them. Pam the Canuck

Hey Griff - I have always detested the eps TCWTL. I felt it insulted my intelligence to some extent even when I was just 12. That being said however, I have "righted that wrong" by building a sort of silly thread into my fan fic in places adding Siamese cats who are more victimized by the humans than the aliens. I know some posters view fan fic a little with the hairy eyeball and I can see that - I've seen some myself I didn't like or felt was just too too far away from the original ideas of the series (I'm not a fan of romance and slash stories). I tend to take the "Tom Clancy" approach with alot of my writing and prefer the technology and adventure stories. I like to do the research that this type of storytelling requires. There's so much out there now that GA and his writers didn't even realize was coming in the future and we can incorporate modern tech into the UFO mythology esp if we're writing current time frame pieces with our characters a bit aged but still involved in the war - Pam the Canuck





Hi Pam :)

Totally agree 100%

In some ways, I have always viewed "The cat with ten lives" as a script (written and directed by David Tomblin" that escaped through Gerry Anderson's and Tony Barwick's safety net. It takes UFO into an area I have always had trouble with...

I do not - of course - mean ANY disrespect at all to David and his fine work. It's just that when I first saw TCWTL, it 'threw a spanner into the 'UFO' works' and didn't really sit comfortably with the rest of the episodes.

Of course, this is just one of the wonderful things about UFO. It makes one think, and the reason for this is the fact that so much was left out "intentionally???", and leaves the viewer to 'fill in the gaps', and for an 8 year old kid (as I was at the time), it left a whole world of possibilities that have never left me. A kids imagination and minds eye are very powerful things.

I think this is something that is so sadly overlooked by current films and TV series... the kids today just watch them, everything is seemingly explained and micro-analyzed leaving little room for imagination.

Of course, this is all my own opinion.

Best to all :)

Griff

--- In [hidden email], "Pam McCaughey" <mccaug@...> wrote:

Hi all - I've always gone with the theory, partly based on the series that

a) the aliens were humanoids from a dying planet who used us for organ replacement and other bodily needs and

b) they did sometimes use humans from earth (a la Craig Collins) for various purposes. I never at any point believed they were anything but the above. I've watched all 26 eps over and over within the last year and I have yet to get how anyone could have considered them energy beings....

for the requirements of fan fiction, and to make their agendas seem even darker, I've depicted them always as humanOID, enough like us to use our organs for replacements, but enough NOT like us to have problems living in our atmosphere - to that end I've done a regular thread in which SHADO finds out the aliens are busy trying to make human-alien hybrids who will be able to take over our world FOR them. Pam the Canuck





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i am trying to understand what you have problems with,didnt the aliens alsocontrol a human, I forgot what episode




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From: Pam McCaughey <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:06:57 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens






Hey Griff - I have always detested the eps TCWTL. I felt it insulted my intelligence to some extent even when I was just 12. That being said however, I have "righted that wrong" by building a sort of silly thread into my fan fic in places adding Siamese cats who are more victimized by the humans than the aliens. I know some posters view fan fic a little with the hairy eyeball and I can see that - I've seen some myself I didn't like or felt was just too too far away from the original ideas of the series (I'm not a fan ofromance and slash stories). I tend to take the "Tom Clancy" approach with alot of my writing and prefer the technology and adventure stories. I like to do the research that this type of storytelling requires. There's so muchout there now that GA and his writers didn't even realize was coming in the future and we can incorporate modern tech into the UFO mythology esp if we're writing current time frame pieces with our characters a bit
aged but still involved in the war - Pam the Canuck

Hi Pam :)

Totally agree 100%

In some ways, I have always viewed "The cat with ten lives" as a script (written and directed by David Tomblin" that escaped through Gerry Anderson's and Tony Barwick's safety net. It takes UFO into an area I have always had trouble with...

I do not - of course - mean ANY disrespect at all to David and his fine work. It's just that when I first saw TCWTL, it 'threw a spanner into the 'UFO' works' and didn't really sit comfortably with the rest of the episodes.

Of course, this is just one of the wonderful things about UFO. It makes onethink, and the reason for this is the fact that so much was left out "intentionally? ??", and leaves the viewer to 'fill in the gaps', and for an 8 year old kid (as I was at the time), it left a whole world of possibilities that have never left me. A kids imagination and minds eye are very powerfulthings.

I think this is something that is so sadly overlooked by current films and TV series... the kids today just watch them, everything is seemingly explained and micro-analyzed leaving little room for imagination.

Of course, this is all my own opinion.

Best to all :)

Griff

--- In SHADO@yahoogroups.. com, "Pam McCaughey" <mccaug@...> wrote:

Hi all - I've always gone with the theory, partly based on the series that

a) the aliens were humanoids from a dying planet who used us for organ replacement and other bodily needs and

b) they did sometimes use humans from earth (a la Craig Collins) for various purposes. I never at any point believed they were anything but the above.I've watched all 26 eps over and over within the last year and I have yet to get how anyone could have considered them energy beings....

for the requirements of fan fiction, and to make their agendas seem even darker, I've depicted them always as humanOID, enough like us to use our organs for replacements, but enough NOT like us to have problems living in our atmosphere - to that end I've done a regular thread in which SHADO finds out the aliens are busy trying to make human-alien hybrids who will be able to take over our world FOR them. Pam the Canuck

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Psycho Bombs

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam McConnich
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens





i am trying to understand what you have problems with,didnt the aliens also control a human, I forgot what episode

________________________________
From: Pam McCaughey <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:06:57 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

Hey Griff - I have always detested the eps TCWTL. I felt it insulted my intelligence to some extent even when I was just 12. That being said however, I have "righted that wrong" by building a sort of silly thread into my fan fic in places adding Siamese cats who are more victimized by the humans than the aliens. I know some posters view fan fic a little with the hairy eyeball and I can see that - I've seen some myself I didn't like or felt was just too too far away from the original ideas of the series (I'm not a fan of romance and slash stories). I tend to take the "Tom Clancy" approach with alot of my writing and prefer the technology and adventure stories. I like to do the research that this type of storytelling requires. There's so much out there now that GA and his writers didn't even realize was coming in the future and we can incorporate modern tech into the UFO mythology esp if we're writing current time frame pieces with our characters a bit
aged but still involved in the war - Pam the Canuck

Hi Pam :)

Totally agree 100%

In some ways, I have always viewed "The cat with ten lives" as a script (written and directed by David Tomblin" that escaped through Gerry Anderson's and Tony Barwick's safety net. It takes UFO into an area I have always had trouble with...

I do not - of course - mean ANY disrespect at all to David and his fine work. It's just that when I first saw TCWTL, it 'threw a spanner into the 'UFO' works' and didn't really sit comfortably with the rest of the episodes.

Of course, this is just one of the wonderful things about UFO. It makes one think, and the reason for this is the fact that so much was left out "intentionally? ??", and leaves the viewer to 'fill in the gaps', and for an 8 year old kid (as I was at the time), it left a whole world of possibilities that have never left me. A kids imagination and minds eye are very powerful things.

I think this is something that is so sadly overlooked by current films and TV series... the kids today just watch them, everything is seemingly explained and micro-analyzed leaving little room for imagination.

Of course, this is all my own opinion.

Best to all :)

Griff

--- In SHADO@yahoogroups.. com, "Pam McCaughey" <mccaug@...> wrote:

Hi all - I've always gone with the theory, partly based on the series that

a) the aliens were humanoids from a dying planet who used us for organ replacement and other bodily needs and

b) they did sometimes use humans from earth (a la Craig Collins) for various purposes. I never at any point believed they were anything but the above. I've watched all 26 eps over and over within the last year and I have yet to get how anyone could have considered them energy beings....

for the requirements of fan fiction, and to make their agendas seem even darker, I've depicted them always as humanOID, enough like us to use our organs for replacements, but enough NOT like us to have problems living in our atmosphere - to that end I've done a regular thread in which SHADO finds out the aliens are busy trying to make human-alien hybrids who will be able to take over our world FOR them. Pam the Canuck

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never read david brin lol????
if you believe in esp, and believe the aliens are from a culture that is more advanced, it is easy to imagine to a device that would cause an interruption and pain in a brain/mind, lol
just my take
we did this in a rpg, was fun, lol




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From: Bruce Sherman <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:31:56 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens





Psycho Bombs

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam McConnich
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

i am trying to understand what you have problems with,didnt the aliens alsocontrol a human, I forgot what episode

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From: Pam McCaughey <[hidden email] .ca>
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:06:57 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

Hey Griff - I have always detested the eps TCWTL. I felt it insulted my intelligence to some extent even when I was just 12. That being said however, I have "righted that wrong" by building a sort of silly thread into my fan fic in places adding Siamese cats who are more victimized by the humans than the aliens. I know some posters view fan fic a little with the hairy eyeball and I can see that - I've seen some myself I didn't like or felt was just too too far away from the original ideas of the series (I'm not a fan ofromance and slash stories). I tend to take the "Tom Clancy" approach with alot of my writing and prefer the technology and adventure stories. I like to do the research that this type of storytelling requires. There's so muchout there now that GA and his writers didn't even realize was coming in the future and we can incorporate modern tech into the UFO mythology esp if we're writing current time frame pieces with our characters a bit
aged but still involved in the war - Pam the Canuck

Hi Pam :)

Totally agree 100%

In some ways, I have always viewed "The cat with ten lives" as a script (written and directed by David Tomblin" that escaped through Gerry Anderson's and Tony Barwick's safety net. It takes UFO into an area I have always had trouble with...

I do not - of course - mean ANY disrespect at all to David and his fine work. It's just that when I first saw TCWTL, it 'threw a spanner into the 'UFO' works' and didn't really sit comfortably with the rest of the episodes.

Of course, this is just one of the wonderful things about UFO. It makes onethink, and the reason for this is the fact that so much was left out "intentionally? ??", and leaves the viewer to 'fill in the gaps', and for an 8 year old kid (as I was at the time), it left a whole world of possibilities that have never left me. A kids imagination and minds eye are very powerfulthings.

I think this is something that is so sadly overlooked by current films and TV series... the kids today just watch them, everything is seemingly explained and micro-analyzed leaving little room for imagination.

Of course, this is all my own opinion.

Best to all :)

Griff

--- In SHADO@yahoogroups. . com, "Pam McCaughey" <mccaug@...> wrote:

Hi all - I've always gone with the theory, partly based on the series that

a) the aliens were humanoids from a dying planet who used us for organ replacement and other bodily needs and

b) they did sometimes use humans from earth (a la Craig Collins) for various purposes. I never at any point believed they were anything but the above.I've watched all 26 eps over and over within the last year and I have yet to get how anyone could have considered them energy beings....

for the requirements of fan fiction, and to make their agendas seem even darker, I've depicted them always as humanOID, enough like us to use our organs for replacements, but enough NOT like us to have problems living in our atmosphere - to that end I've done a regular thread in which SHADO finds out the aliens are busy trying to make human-alien hybrids who will be able to take over our world FOR them. Pam the Canuck

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Just to throw something out here on the table. It is possible that the Aliens were from our future. The UFOs were time travel devices. This would explain why they look like us and hoe they could use our organs/body parts. "Reflection in the Water" hints to this for obvious reasons- the name of the episode for one and the ability for the Aliens to assimilate themselves into society as we know it. There is certain a lot to be explain within this episode.

I've always lean toward this theory toward thew show. It would have been nice to see the series develop into something more sinister than Aliens coming to get some body parts.

MartianX

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never read david brin lol????
if you believe in esp, and believe the aliens are from a culture that is more advanced, it is easy to imagine to a device that would cause an interruption and pain in a brain/mind, lol
just my take
we did this in a rpg, was fun, lol

________________________________
From: Bruce Sherman <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:31:56 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

Psycho Bombs

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam McConnich
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

i am trying to understand what you have problems with,didnt the aliens also control a human, I forgot what episode

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From: Pam McCaughey <[hidden email] .ca>
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:06:57 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

Hey Griff - I have always detested the eps TCWTL. I felt it insulted my intelligence to some extent even when I was just 12. That being said however, I have "righted that wrong" by building a sort of silly thread into my fan fic in places adding Siamese cats who are more victimized by the humans than the aliens. I know some posters view fan fic a little with the hairy eyeball and I can see that - I've seen some myself I didn't like or felt was just too too far away from the original ideas of the series (I'm not a fan of romance and slash stories). I tend to take the "Tom Clancy" approach with alot of my writing and prefer the technology and adventure stories. I like to do the research that this type of storytelling requires. There's so much out there now that GA and his writers didn't even realize was coming in the future and we can incorporate modern tech into the UFO mythology esp if we're writing current time frame pieces with our characters a bit
aged but still involved in the war - Pam the Canuck

Hi Pam :)

Totally agree 100%

In some ways, I have always viewed "The cat with ten lives" as a script (written and directed by David Tomblin" that escaped through Gerry Anderson's and Tony Barwick's safety net. It takes UFO into an area I have always had trouble with...

I do not - of course - mean ANY disrespect at all to David and his fine work. It's just that when I first saw TCWTL, it 'threw a spanner into the 'UFO' works' and didn't really sit comfortably with the rest of the episodes.

Of course, this is just one of the wonderful things about UFO. It makes one think, and the reason for this is the fact that so much was left out "intentionally? ??", and leaves the viewer to 'fill in the gaps', and for an 8 year old kid (as I was at the time), it left a whole world of possibilities that have never left me. A kids imagination and minds eye are very powerful things.

I think this is something that is so sadly overlooked by current films and TV series... the kids today just watch them, everything is seemingly explained and micro-analyzed leaving little room for imagination.

Of course, this is all my own opinion.

Best to all :)

Griff

--- In SHADO@yahoogroups. . com, "Pam McCaughey" <mccaug@...> wrote:

Hi all - I've always gone with the theory, partly based on the series that

a) the aliens were humanoids from a dying planet who used us for organ replacement and other bodily needs and

b) they did sometimes use humans from earth (a la Craig Collins) for various purposes. I never at any point believed they were anything but the above. I've watched all 26 eps over and over within the last year and I have yet to get how anyone could have considered them energy beings....

for the requirements of fan fiction, and to make their agendas seem even darker, I've depicted them always as humanOID, enough like us to use our organs for replacements, but enough NOT like us to have problems living in our atmosphere - to that end I've done a regular thread in which SHADO finds out the aliens are busy trying to make human-alien hybrids who will be able to take over our world FOR them. Pam the Canuck

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might work, but here are the problems, if time travellers from the future they woild know all about shadow, a parallel future yes, but the same timeline nope, the loop gets weird, lol
I alswys thought they were an offshoot of us that left earth and were returning


 



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To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:36:00 AM
Subject: [SHADO] RE: The Nature of the Aliens?





Just to throw something out here on the table. It is possible that the Aliens were from our future. The UFOs were time travel devices. This would explain why they look like us and hoe they could use our organs/body parts. "Reflection in the Water" hints to this for obvious reasons- the name of the episode for one and the ability for the Aliens to assimilate themselves intosociety as we know it. There is certain a lot to be explain within this episode.

I've always lean toward this theory toward thew show. It would have been nice to see the series develop into something more sinister than Aliens coming to get some body parts.

MartianX

------------ -- Original message from Sam McConnich <rpgstarwizard@ yahoo.com>: ------------ --

never read david brin lol????
if you believe in esp, and believe the aliens are from a culture that is more advanced, it is easy to imagine to a device that would cause an interruption and pain in a brain/mind, lol
just my take
we did this in a rpg, was fun, lol

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Bruce Sherman <brucesherman@ sprintmail. com>
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:31:56 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

Psycho Bombs

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam McConnich
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

i am trying to understand what you have problems with,didnt the aliens alsocontrol a human, I forgot what episode

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Pam McCaughey <mccaug@nb..sympatico .ca>
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:06:57 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

Hey Griff - I have always detested the eps TCWTL. I felt it insulted my intelligence to some extent even when I was just 12. That being said however, I have "righted that wrong" by building a sort of silly thread into my fan fic in places adding Siamese cats who are more victimized by the humans than the aliens. I know some posters view fan fic a little with the hairy eyeball and I can see that - I've seen some myself I didn't like or felt was just too too far away from the original ideas of the series (I'm not a fan ofromance and slash stories). I tend to take the "Tom Clancy" approach with alot of my writing and prefer the technology and adventure stories. I like to do the research that this type of storytelling requires. There's so muchout there now that GA and his writers didn't even realize was coming in the future and we can incorporate modern tech into the UFO mythology esp if we're writing current time frame pieces with our characters a bit
aged but still involved in the war - Pam the Canuck

Hi Pam :)

Totally agree 100%

In some ways, I have always viewed "The cat with ten lives" as a script (written and directed by David Tomblin" that escaped through Gerry Anderson's and Tony Barwick's safety net. It takes UFO into an area I have always had trouble with...

I do not - of course - mean ANY disrespect at all to David and his fine work. It's just that when I first saw TCWTL, it 'threw a spanner into the 'UFO' works' and didn't really sit comfortably with the rest of the episodes.

Of course, this is just one of the wonderful things about UFO. It makes onethink, and the reason for this is the fact that so much was left out "intentionally? ??", and leaves the viewer to 'fill in the gaps', and for an 8 year old kid (as I was at the time), it left a whole world of possibilities that have never left me. A kids imagination and minds eye are very powerfulthings.

I think this is something that is so sadly overlooked by current films and TV series... the kids today just watch them, everything is seemingly explained and micro-analyzed leaving little room for imagination.

Of course, this is all my own opinion.

Best to all :)

Griff

--- In SHADO@yahoogroups. . com, "Pam McCaughey" <mccaug@...> wrote:

Hi all - I've always gone with the theory, partly based on the series that

a) the aliens were humanoids from a dying planet who used us for organ replacement and other bodily needs and

b) they did sometimes use humans from earth (a la Craig Collins) for various purposes. I never at any point believed they were anything but the above.I've watched all 26 eps over and over within the last year and I have yet to get how anyone could have considered them energy beings....

for the requirements of fan fiction, and to make their agendas seem even darker, I've depicted them always as humanOID, enough like us to use our organs for replacements, but enough NOT like us to have problems living in our atmosphere - to that end I've done a regular thread in which SHADO finds out the aliens are busy trying to make human-alien hybrids who will be able to take over our world FOR them. Pam the Canuck

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that one is why I see the aliens from another world and not time travellers, if the had to come back, using the ships
a) there reason would be severe with a dying world all people would be onboard
b) the tech would be too important to loose to a fight
c) easier to stop jumping   from downline
   if there are factions in the aliens culture one might be stopping the harvest to allow them to die out since humans are their cousins
d) if time jumping they would then give the tech to Shado to assist in stopping the other faction
 I have more




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From: "Hemmings, R.K." <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:31:36 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] RE: The Nature of the Aliens?





"It would have been nice to see the series develop into something more
sinister than Aliens coming to get some body parts."

Agreed! The ep(s?) where a 2nd UFO fires upon the first one
hints that there was a (perhaps) political divide on the Alien
homeworld, and I remember hoping that would be explored in the
next season (which was never made, of course.) I was rather
hoping to see more 'good' aliens fighting 'bad' aliens (as a kid,
the more hardware I saw on screen, the better I liked it.)

--
Rob





     

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Or.



They seeded Earth millions of years ago and are cashing in on their
insurance policy by coming back to harvest us.



As for UFOs shooting each other - I seem to have missed that - which eps?



From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sam
McConnich
Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 4:55 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] RE: The Nature of the Aliens?








might work, but here are the problems, if time travellers from the future
they woild know all about shadow, a parallel future yes, but the same
timeline nope, the loop gets weird, lol
I alswys thought they were an offshoot of us that left earth and were
returning



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From: "[hidden email] <mailto:martianx%40bellsouth.net> "
<[hidden email] <mailto:martianx%40bellsouth.net> >
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:36:00 AM
Subject: [SHADO] RE: The Nature of the Aliens?

Just to throw something out here on the table. It is possible that the
Aliens were from our future. The UFOs were time travel devices. This would
explain why they look like us and hoe they could use our organs/body parts.
"Reflection in the Water" hints to this for obvious reasons- the name of the
episode for one and the ability for the Aliens to assimilate themselves into
society as we know it. There is certain a lot to be explain within this
episode.

I've always lean toward this theory toward thew show. It would have been
nice to see the series develop into something more sinister than Aliens
coming to get some body parts.

MartianX

------------ -- Original message from Sam McConnich <rpgstarwizard@
yahoo.com>: ------------ --

never read david brin lol????
if you believe in esp, and believe the aliens are from a culture that is
more advanced, it is easy to imagine to a device that would cause an
interruption and pain in a brain/mind, lol
just my take
we did this in a rpg, was fun, lol

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From: Bruce Sherman <brucesherman@ sprintmail. com>
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:31:56 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

Psycho Bombs

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam McConnich
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

i am trying to understand what you have problems with,didnt the aliens also
control a human, I forgot what episode

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From: Pam McCaughey <mccaug@nb..sympatico <mailto:mccaug%40nb..sympatico>
.ca>
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:06:57 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: on the nature of the aliens

Hey Griff - I have always detested the eps TCWTL. I felt it insulted my
intelligence to some extent even when I was just 12. That being said
however, I have "righted that wrong" by building a sort of silly thread into
my fan fic in places adding Siamese cats who are more victimized by the
humans than the aliens. I know some posters view fan fic a little with the
hairy eyeball and I can see that - I've seen some myself I didn't like or
felt was just too too far away from the original ideas of the series (I'm
not a fan of romance and slash stories). I tend to take the "Tom Clancy"
approach with alot of my writing and prefer the technology and adventure
stories. I like to do the research that this type of storytelling requires.
There's so much out there now that GA and his writers didn't even realize
was coming in the future and we can incorporate modern tech into the UFO
mythology esp if we're writing current time frame pieces with our characters
a bit
aged but still involved in the war - Pam the Canuck

Hi Pam :)

Totally agree 100%

In some ways, I have always viewed "The cat with ten lives" as a script
(written and directed by David Tomblin" that escaped through Gerry
Anderson's and Tony Barwick's safety net. It takes UFO into an area I have
always had trouble with...

I do not - of course - mean ANY disrespect at all to David and his fine
work. It's just that when I first saw TCWTL, it 'threw a spanner into the
'UFO' works' and didn't really sit comfortably with the rest of the
episodes.

Of course, this is just one of the wonderful things about UFO. It makes one
think, and the reason for this is the fact that so much was left out
"intentionally? ??", and leaves the viewer to 'fill in the gaps', and for an
8 year old kid (as I was at the time), it left a whole world of
possibilities that have never left me. A kids imagination and minds eye are
very powerful things.

I think this is something that is so sadly overlooked by current films and
TV series... the kids today just watch them, everything is seemingly
explained and micro-analyzed leaving little room for imagination.

Of course, this is all my own opinion.

Best to all :)

Griff

--- In SHADO@yahoogroups. . com, "Pam McCaughey" <mccaug@...> wrote:

Hi all - I've always gone with the theory, partly based on the series that

a) the aliens were humanoids from a dying planet who used us for organ
replacement and other bodily needs and

b) they did sometimes use humans from earth (a la Craig Collins) for various
purposes. I never at any point believed they were anything but the above.
I've watched all 26 eps over and over within the last year and I have yet to
get how anyone could have considered them energy beings....

for the requirements of fan fiction, and to make their agendas seem even
darker, I've depicted them always as humanOID, enough like us to use our
organs for replacements, but enough NOT like us to have problems living in
our atmosphere - to that end I've done a regular thread in which SHADO finds
out the aliens are busy trying to make human-alien hybrids who will be able
to take over our world FOR them. Pam the Canuck

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> As for UFOs shooting each other - I seem to have missed that - which eps?

This happens at the beginning of A QUESTION OF PRIORITIES.

Marc

More than once I've made the suggestion in some fan fic stories that humans were seeded by the aliens thousands of years ago but for various reasons the two types of humanoids diverged either through some sort of evolutionary problems on the alien home world or because we humans may have changed. I stick to the idea the aliens were totally corporaeal in body, with greater more advanced tech and capable of some interesting feats in the areas of mental powers and abilities. Pam the canuck


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The aliens would certainly had to be human to some extent to be able to useour bodies. Possible as mention by some of you, a human race was plantedby another race which is now dying out or as Dr.Jackson suggested "they just use our bodies". Erasing our minds then possessing our mind/brains with theirs. There is also the problem of bacteria, viruses, disease, etc. that would be harmful to extra-terrestrial beings. We would have the same problem if we went to their world.

This is why the time travel theory works  for me. Flawless it is not, butthere is to many unanswered questions in the series. Most of what Dr. Jackson and Straker purposed was just theory. Even the episode "Close-up" did not tie anything down with the pictures taken by the spy satellite.

What really got me into this series was the scripts. They were to good for TV of the time. Even for most sci-fi TV buffs of the time had trouble wrapping the heads around it. I remember my friends looking for another StarTrek, but was surprised to find a drama type show centering on aliens. Theshows were complex and written on a adult level. I guess a question would be was UFO a sci-fi series?

MartianX




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From: Sam McConnich <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:31:22 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] RE: The Nature of the Aliens?





that one is why I see the aliens from another world and not time travellers, if the had to come back, using the ships
a) there reason would be severe with a dying world all people would be onboard
b) the tech would be too important to loose to a fight
c) easier to stop jumping   from downline
   if there are factions in the aliens culture one might be stopping the harvest to allow them to die out since humans are their cousins
d) if time jumping they would then give the tech to Shado to assist in stopping the other faction
 I have more

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From: "Hemmings, R.K." <[hidden email]>
To: "SHADO@yahoogroups. com" <SHADO@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:31:36 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] RE: The Nature of the Aliens?

"It would have been nice to see the series develop into something more
sinister than Aliens coming to get some body parts."

Agreed! The ep(s?) where a 2nd UFO fires upon the first one
hints that there was a (perhaps) political divide on the Alien
homeworld, and I remember hoping that would be explored in the
next season (which was never made, of course.) I was rather
hoping to see more 'good' aliens fighting 'bad' aliens (as a kid,
the more hardware I saw on screen, the better I liked it.)

--
Rob

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actually we are at a cross road here if they were time travelers or beings taken or left earth would still be an issue with various diseases
if they were from either the future with evolution dieases would change andthere should be immunties developed
if they came from a transplanted world depending on how long ago there would be drift of the diseases
so actually
we are still at the question where or when




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From: Martin Michael <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 8:36:20 PM
Subject: [SHADO] RE: The Nature of the Aliens?





The aliens would certainly had to be human to some extent to be able to useour bodies. Possible as mention by some of you, a human race was plantedby another race which is now dying out or as Dr.Jackson suggested "they just use our bodies". Erasing our minds then possessing our mind/brains with theirs. There is also the problem of bacteria, viruses, disease, etc. that would be harmful to extra-terrestrial beings. We would have the same problem if we went to their world.

This is why the time travel theory works  for me. Flawless it is not, butthere is to many unanswered questions in the series. Most of what Dr.. Jackson and Straker purposed was just theory. Even the episode "Close-up" did not tie anything down with the pictures taken by the spy satellite.

What really got me into this series was the scripts. They were to good for TV of the time. Even for most sci-fi TV buffs of the time had trouble wrapping the heads around it. I remember my friends looking for another StarTrek, but was surprised to find a drama type show centering on aliens. Theshows were complex and written on a adult level. I guess a question would be was UFO a sci-fi series?

MartianX

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From: Sam McConnich <rpgstarwizard@ yahoo.com>
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:31:22 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] RE: The Nature of the Aliens?

that one is why I see the aliens from another world and not time travellers, if the had to come back, using the ships
a) there reason would be severe with a dying world all people would be onboard
b) the tech would be too important to loose to a fight
c) easier to stop jumping   from downline
   if there are factions in the aliens culture one might be stopping the harvest to allow them to die out since humans are their cousins
d) if time jumping they would then give the tech to Shado to assist in stopping the other faction
 I have more

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From: "Hemmings, R.K." <[hidden email]>
To: "SHADO@yahoogroups. com" <SHADO@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:31:36 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] RE: The Nature of the Aliens?

"It would have been nice to see the series develop into something more
sinister than Aliens coming to get some body parts."

Agreed! The ep(s?) where a 2nd UFO fires upon the first one
hints that there was a (perhaps) political divide on the Alien
homeworld, and I remember hoping that would be explored in the
next season (which was never made, of course.) I was rather
hoping to see more 'good' aliens fighting 'bad' aliens (as a kid,
the more hardware I saw on screen, the better I liked it.)

--
Rob

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