Hi Karen - I didn't see your other e-mail til just now. WoW! I totally didn't recall the Starsky and Hutch connection.....(but I avoided the show when it was on TV anyway.....). On the subject of slash, the most I feel I can say at this point, having argued good taste, ethical writing and invasion of privacy with some others who don't share my unappreciation for it, as a professional writer and editor, I find it hard to stomach. The stories I saw had no love, no affection, simple down and dirty stuff. But, considering Sesame Street once considered portraying Bert & Ernie as a pair of gay lovers to teach the children viewing tolerance (and the ensuing backlash by scared shitless parents), there's no accounting for the audience's reactions. I confess: I LOVE UFO for the gadgets, the ideas, the hardware, the characters - so shoot me, ha ha! Pam > > |
Oooh, somebody brought up the S-word (and it wasn't me!)
Pam McCaughey wrote: >The stories I saw had no love, no affection, simple down and dirty stuff. Then I suggest that your exposure to slash has been very limited, and obviously not representative of the genre (which is itself large enough these days that it's hard to say any given type of story is "representative", but romance of various types probably still predominates as much as anything could be said to do so, at least in most fandoms.) - Lisa -- Lisa Williams: [hidden email] or [hidden email] Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/ |
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> affection, simple down and dirty stuff. But, considering Sesame Street
once > considered portraying Bert & Ernie as a pair of gay lovers to teach the > children viewing tolerance (and the ensuing backlash by scared shitless > parents), there's no accounting for the audience's reactions. For more on this, see: http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/gaymupp.htm Paul |
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Hi Pam,
It's a shame that you've been "exposed" to the kind of slash which you describe. I've come across that kind of story in other famdoms, but luckily not in UFO-related material. Everything UFO-related I've read has been very loving and that makes all the difference. After all, there's nothing wrong in love, no matter what age, sex, religion etc you are, right?! It does depends, I think, on the way you're introduced to this subject. But hey, don't think I'm trying to convert you. <G> It's great that you're willing to discuss the subject, despite your aversion to it. I mean, isn't that part of what being interested in futuristic sci-fi etc is all about, learning tolerance and understanding etc? We do see that in UFO, after all, and that helped to put the show years ahead of it's time, don't you agree? But I'm interested in UFO primarily for the story-content, the subject matter, the ideas, the hardware, the characters/actors etc, too, so you don't have to worry about me shooting you!!! No way!! .....Karen |
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Lisa wrote:
Oooh, somebody brought up the S-word (and it wasn't me!) Pam McCaughey wrote: >The stories I saw had no love, no affection, simple down and dirty stuff. Then I suggest that your exposure to slash has been very limited, and obviously not representative of the genre (which is itself large enough these days that it's hard to say any given type of story is "representative", but romance of various types probably still predominates as much as anything could be said to do so, at least in most fandoms.) - Lisa <<<<< I absolutely agree with you Lisa!! That's exactly what I was trying to say, but you said it in a much better way!! What you said about the "S-word".... Oh dear, is this subject taboo on this list? Because if it is then I find it a great shame. I had hoped we'd be able to discuss ALL aspects of UFO fandom, and, as you said, slash is a genre which is so large these days it's going to be hard to get around it unless you join a list specifically for under-18s. I joined this list presumeing that we were all adults here. I hope I'm not wrong. Tolerance and understanding, I think, is so important, especially when dealing with a subject that you don't personally agree with. It's so difficult to say everyone is entitled to their opinion without offending anyone, though, isn't it. .....Karen |
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