Re: RESPONSIBILITY SEAT

Dave, the pipe was mentioned in the original stories of Sir Arthur Conan
Doyle, however it was a ordinary clay pipe. The deerstalker hat and the
calabash pipe were used by Basil Rathbone but they were first used by
American stage actor and playwright William Gillette in his stage play
Sherlock Holmes which ran for 216 performances on Broadway and then for
another 216 performance in London's West End in 1901. Since then they have
become part of the Holmes kit if not canon.

James K.


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Why not? I am sure by now that he has seen all sorts of strange stories by now, and not just for UFO either. Altho I am sure that Ed and Nick would not have been one of his favorites, he might have got a kick out of some of the ones with Ed and his "New daughter", who has taken his straight forward manner to neww heights in some of the stories. No Father Christmass, indeed!!!!
Yuchtar <[hidden email]> wrote:[hidden email] wrote:

> >Some of us hope the Andersons never find our stories.
>
> Interesting comment coming from someone who "knows" someone who story ideas
> are being adapted into the comic books that surely the Andersons will see
> soon.

Oh, well, I don't mind if they see THOSE!

It's certain OTHER stories I hope no one finds ...


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--- In [hidden email], James Gibbon <james.gibbon@v...> wrote:
> Marc Martin wrote:
>
> >
> > Ed asked for a lot of money to do the commentary for SUB-SMASH
>
> That surprises me, because to me at any rate it's evident that
> he didn't do a lot of preparation for it.

Marc,

Just curious, do you have any idea of what "a lot of money" means
(Ed's commentary for SUB-SMASH).

I'm just curious to get an idea of the economics of producing the UFO
DVDs. My guess is that they are going to sell between 10,000 and
50,000 (for both packs), which would mean a gross profit of about
between $350,000 and $1,750,000 (numbers completely pulled out from
thin air, considering that they can sell each pack to the
distributors for about $35). If you think about it, a gross of less
than $2M is really not much, if you consider all of the costs
involved in the production.

Anyhow, I guess what I really want is someone better informed to shed
some light about this...

David Levine

Robert Thomas wrote:
>
> Why not? I am sure by now that he has seen all sorts of strange stories
> by now, and not just for UFO either.

Well .. some of the more adult-oriented UFO fanfic is very
imaginative.. :)

I'd love to know what George Sewell would think about the idea
of Freeman and Straker showering together.

Huh? Did I miss something?

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Robert Thomas wrote:
>
> Why not? I am sure by now that he has seen all sorts of strange
> stories by now, and not just for UFO either.

Well .. some of the more adult-oriented UFO fanfic is very imaginative.. :)

I'd love to know what George Sewell would think about the idea
of Freeman and Straker showering together.





 

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> Dave, the pipe was mentioned in the original stories of Sir Arthur Conan
> Doyle, however it was a ordinary clay pipe.

Hmm, I didn't know that.

> The deerstalker hat and the
> calabash pipe were used by Basil Rathbone but they were first used by
> American stage actor and playwright William Gillette in his stage play
> Sherlock Holmes which ran for 216 performances on Broadway and then for
> another 216 performance in London's West End in 1901. Since then they have
> become part of the Holmes kit if not canon.

That's interesting. I got my info from a TV prog which stated they
were Rathbone's invention. Thanks for the info.

Dave.

You're welcome Dave.
You can't always depend on all the info you get from TV being accurate.
The famous curved pipe and deerstalker hat have been in films well before
Rathbones use of them. I saw it in the British film Murder at the
Baskervilles make in 1936 which is three years before the first of the
Rathbone films.

James


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I'm tempted to transcribe it just to see if it's much longer than a single
sheet of paper, double-spaced...at times I actually forgot I was listening
to a commentary track, and was startled when Ed starting speaking again.
It starts off well though - his comment about there being "no half
measures" when Derek Meddings decided to blow something up made me laugh
out loud.

Doug

At 01:48 PM 3/19/2003 +0000, you wrote:

Brian Lindstrand wrote:

> Thanks! I mean, it seems like they are making a genuine connection and then
> Straker goes back to cold mode after the phone call. I was a bit confused
> because he already didn't fully trust her, so what additional info would
> make more of a difference?

Yeah, really makes no sense. <shaking head>

> As to Straker and Ford warmth, watching "Identified" again, there is that
> funny scene where Ford gets chewed out for making a mistake. I say funny,
> because Straker launches into some of the most obvious expository dialogue
> I've ever heard and Ford really should have known better. I was watching it
> and wondering if this is for Ford's benefit or mine?

LOL! I recall Marc saying that was filler because the ep ran a bit
short.

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> Dave, the pipe was mentioned in the original stories of Sir Arthur Conan
> Doyle, however it was a ordinary clay pipe. The deerstalker hat and the
> calabash pipe were used by Basil Rathbone but they were first used by
> American stage actor and playwright William Gillette in his stage play
> Sherlock Holmes which ran for 216 performances on Broadway and then for
> another 216 performance in London's West End in 1901. Since then they have
> become part of the Holmes kit if not canon.

I've been told that I've been to Gillette Castle (a castle he had taken
down stone by stone from England and rebuilt in Connecticut), but I was
just a wee baby and don't remember a thing - not even the ferry ride.
<shrug>

And this has gotten off topic - SORRY!

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I wrote:
> Oh, well, I don't mind if they see THOSE!
> It's certain OTHER stories I hope no one finds ...

and then Robert Thomas wrote:

> Why not? I am sure by now that he has seen all sorts of strange stories by now, and not just for UFO either. Altho I am sure that Ed and Nick would not have been one of his favorites, he might have got a kick out of some of the ones with Ed and his "New daughter", who has taken his straight forward manner to neww heights in some of the stories. No Father Christmass, indeed!!!!
>

Errrrr, must not be me you're talkin to there ....... <clueless>

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"Veres, Mary" wrote:


<blink blink> ROFLMAO!

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Denise Felt wrote:

> *grin* And Yuchy, what's wrong with making Straker an alien? It always
> seemed to me that sooner or later, the series would have brought that fact
> out about him. I mean, just look at him! He looks and acts like an alien
> to me! *giggle*

Oh, nothing *wrong* with making Straker an alien - it's just not canon.
:-)

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I think single person commentaries are extremely difficult. Unless
you get someone that is very talkative or can remember a lot about
the production - they tend to be boring at times. The Timelash
commentary works better because of Sylvia and Wanda playing off one
another. Gerry's commentaries tend to be very dry at times but if he
was with someone else, I think it would be more interesting.

The Lord of the Rings actor commentary has numerous people - almost
too many, but it is never boring.

The problem with having more than one person is that they could get
talking about other things and not about the production.

I wish all of the episodes had commentaries. Imagine hearing from
other cast members, etc...

KP

I just got my A&E version of Set 2 of UFO and I was a
little surprised by the packaging. While I know the
Carleton box has taken some heat, I thought the photos
inside as you opened the box was exquisite. The A&E
plastic box was more rigid, probably safer, but seemed
more static. And you have to move the box art to read
the liner notes and details.

I was disappointed that the DVD menus were not
animated; clearly Carleton won that part hands down. I
watched KILL STRAKER and really enjoyed the
commentary. Then I watched about 75% of TIMELASH and
found listening to Slyvia and Wanda a little difficult
to follow. I haven't listened to SUBSMASH but since Ed
only speaks for 13 minutes, I wonder if it's worth it.

HOWEVER, the color, the audio and the extras are
great. I can throw all my videos away. So now I own
Set 1 from Carleton and Set 2 from A&E. I think I may
be missing an episode...or have two of the same one,
but I think I have the best of both worlds this way.

JF

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>HOWEVER, the color, the audio and the extras are
>great. I can throw all my videos away. So now I own
>Set 1 from Carleton and Set 2 from A&E. I think I may
>be missing an episode...or have two of the same one,

Or both... you have 2 Responsibility Seats, and no
Confetti Check A-OKs... hardly what I'd consider the
best of both worlds!

Marc

<<you have 2 Responsibility Seats, and no
Confetti Check A-OKs... hardly what I'd consider the
best of both worlds!>>

Sorry to disagree, Mark, but I absolutely HATE
"CCA-OK" so I'm not going to miss it one bit. I'll
take 2 "RS" any day!

JF

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Bottom line, you *don't* have a full set of UFO DVD episodes.
...and that's gotta be a slight disappointment.

Even if you don't like the episode... it is an integral part of the
Straker and SHADO story.

Jaime

On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 01:06 PM, ultramannick wrote:

> Sorry to disagree, Mark, but I absolutely HATE
> "CCA-OK" so I'm not going to miss it one bit. I'll
> take 2 "RS" any day!

I agree with Jamie.
Its part of the canon<veg>.
You can't make a sword with out heating the steel in the fire and then
hammering it.

James


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<<Bottom line, you *don't* have a full set of UFO DVD
episodes.
...and that's gotta be a slight disappointment.>>

Sorry, Jaime, it's a matter of taste. I have the best
two sets from the two different versions, but I don't
have an episode that I would NEVER watch in the first
place. I watch UFO to be entertained, not to be a
completist. And I would never recommend anyone watch
CCA-OK in the first place, despite it's placement in
the canon.

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That's your perogative, James, but I just don't agree.
If I had missed out on an episode like DALOTEK or
DESTRUCTION or God forbid TIMELASH, it would be a
different story. In fact, I would have opted for the
A&E set for the commenary anyways. But CCA-OK? No way.
Now I have a set that I can lend to folks wanting to
see the series to play on their own DVD players, which
99% of the time are NOT region-selectable like my
Daewoo. Up until now, I couldn't loan anyone my
Carlton set.

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Oooooh, you don't like Confetti Check???????? <boggle>

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ultramannick wrote:

> Sorry, Jaime, it's a matter of taste. I have the best
> two sets from the two different versions, but I don't
> have an episode that I would NEVER watch in the first
> place. I watch UFO to be entertained, not to be a
> completist. And I would never recommend anyone watch
> CCA-OK in the first place, despite it's placement in
> the canon.


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Can you explain what you don't like about Confetti? I'm just curious.

Anthony
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