Re: Re: [SHADO] Conventions
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A convention as a celebration for all of Anderson's show maybe more in line. Everyone would benefit in form or another. A convention of this type would bring in more people, more stars/etc.. and more dealers.
I love UFO and always will. A convention concerning just this show would be interesting, but small, at best. Unless it was in my area I doubt if I would make a trip across the U.S. to see it. Unfortunately UFO is rather dated now in several respects. The show would have to be involve with other show (not necessarily Anderson) for people to come. But, then again I have out of touch lately with the fandom of UFO. I would like to see something happen here in the U.S. to keep all of Anderson TV shows alive. Interesting; in my area (Atlanta) the only thing people remember about the show is the hair color of the moon base girls. Which they often they often get the color wrong. Consider this; with all the scifi and comic shows/cons around the U.S. it would be nice to do some kind of a revival of this show in some form to get interest up and maybe with other Anderson shows. Each one of us in various parts of the U.S. could cover a area. All it would take is setting up a table or a display at these shows. With information and collectibles. Just a thought. Anthony Taylor does something like this is support of his Anderson/scifi collectible web site. Hey Anthony are you out there> Got any suggestions? Does anyone have a interest in this or have ideas on increasing fandom in the show? Martin Michael > > |
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So, where would you suggest such a show should be
held? Jim M --- [hidden email] wrote: > A convention as a celebration for all of Anderson's > show maybe more in line. Everyone would benefit in > form or another. A convention of this type would > bring in more people, more stars/etc.. and more > dealers. > > I love UFO and always will. A convention concerning > just this show would be interesting, but small, at > best. Unless it was in my area I doubt if I would > make a trip across the U.S. to see it. > > Unfortunately UFO is rather dated now in several > respects. The show would have to be involve with > other show (not necessarily Anderson) for people to > come. But, then again I have out of touch lately > with the fandom of UFO. I would like to see > something happen here in the U.S. to keep all of > Anderson TV shows alive. > > Interesting; in my area (Atlanta) the only thing > people remember about the show is the hair color of > the moon base girls. Which they often they often get > the color wrong. > > Consider this; with all the scifi and comic > shows/cons around the U.S. it would be nice to do > some kind of a revival of this show in some form to > get interest up and maybe with other Anderson shows. > Each one of us in various parts of the U.S. could > cover a area. All it would take is setting up a > table or a display at these shows. With information > and collectibles. Just a thought. > > Anthony Taylor does something like this is support > of his Anderson/scifi collectible web site. > > Hey Anthony are you out there> Got any suggestions? > Does anyone have a interest in this or have ideas on > increasing fandom in the show? > > Martin Michael > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ |
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> So, where would you suggest such a show should be
> held? Seems like New York or California would be obvious choices, if for no other reason than a lot of people live there, and UFO had good ratings in both places during its initial run. Marc |
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> > Anthony Taylor does something like this is support of his Anderson/ > scifi collectible web site. > > Hey Anthony are you out there> Got any suggestions? Does anyone > have a interest in this or have ideas on increasing fandom in the > show? > > > > Hi Marty, I'd love to see an Anderson convention here in the US and agree that you'd need to include all the shows to make it truly feasible. The Space: 1999 conventions of recent vintage are high cost, low attendance affairs aimed strictly at a group of fans who want to keep them exclusive. My company sponsored Antonia Ellis' appearance at San Diego Comic Con in 2004 and we had a blast, but it wasn't very profitable for us. Atlanta would be a great place for a convention due to it's international airport, rail transit from the airport to downtown hotels, and reasonable hotel and convention space rates. Some of the Space: 1999 group are using September's Dragon Con here to piggyback a get-together on. The convention's website is http://www.dragoncon.org I'll be appearing on at least one Anderson related panel there. It might not be a bad idea for someone to try and piggyback a larger amount of programming and a few guests onto an existing large-ish convention. It would certainly bring overall costs down from running a stand alone event. It would also be enticement for attendees with broader interests. I've had no luck trying this with DC, maybe another convention somewhere in the US would be interested. AT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Anthony Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>My company sponsored Antonia Ellis' appearance at San Diego Comic >Con in 2004 and we had a blast, but it wasn't very profitable for us. I hope I'm not being rude by asking, but did you guys lose money sponsoring Antonia Ellis' appearance, or did you at least break even? Jeff [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> I hope I'm not being rude by asking, but did you guys lose money
> sponsoring Antonia Ellis' appearance, or did you at least break even? I'm wondering how you would define "break even", since nobody paid to see Antonia. I guess the question is, did the income from her signing autographed photos and the increased interest in the FAB Gear booth compensate for the cost of paying for her travel / hotel / meals? I can say that, as someone who help transport her around town and interviewed her onstage, that *I* definitely lost money on that endeavor, just on my expenses to get there. But it was worth it. :-) Even my wife, who hated the convention, thought it was worth it, because she was compensated with a German Shepherd puppy... :-) Marc |
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Having never been to such a convention, my knowledge of such events is less than zero. I didn't know that no one paid to see Ms. Ellis. I don't exactly know how I would define 'break even'.
If a given person was there STRICTLY as a fan, they probably wouldn't consider traveling expenses as 'lost money'. On the other hand, someone attending STRICTLY as a business venture (vendor), has a completely different point of view (and rightfully so). I am assuming that Anthony Taylor attended as both a FAN and a BUSINESSMAN. So I guess I was just trying to get a feel as to whether he thought the endeavour was worthwhile as a person with BOTH points of view to consider. : ) Jeff Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > I hope I'm not being rude by asking, but did you guys lose money > sponsoring Antonia Ellis' appearance, or did you at least break even? I'm wondering how you would define "break even", since nobody paid to see Antonia. I guess the question is, did the income from her signing autographed photos and the increased interest in the FAB Gear booth compensate for the cost of paying for her travel / hotel / meals? I can say that, as someone who help transport her around town and interviewed her onstage, that *I* definitely lost money on that endeavor, just on my expenses to get there. But it was worth it. :-) Even my wife, who hated the convention, thought it was worth it, because she was compensated with a German Shepherd puppy... :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Well put Anthony. Hope all is well with you.
As far as where a UFO/Anderson type show should be, I would think the best place is in your general area. A good start would be to piggy back on large shows as Anthony suggest or set up with some information at a local comic or toys show and have some fun. Stir up some local interest first. It always nice to have fellow fans close by if possible. I guess I miss the fandom most of all. That face to face contact. The internet is a great way to contact other fans, but often e-mail keeps you at home with not much inter-action with others. Then with the collectible market being shallowed up by the internet once again fans do not have to go out to look for items of interest. Keeping them from getting out of there homes to where they would meet other fans. I recall in the 1980s and 90s having contacts all over the world buying, selling, and mostly trading as most of you. Now I rarely get a letter from anyone or even a reply. Conventions were everywhere and you could always meet someone of the same interest there. I guess I'm just as much to blame as anyone. Like I mention before I havn't made much contact with anyone lately. Life goes on and so do interest. Jim Main; If I remember correctly did you use to publish a modeling magazine of some sort in the 1990s? I remember this because I won a years free subscription in which I identified a UFO picture of the Moonbase interceptors. Martin > > |
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As a fan I had a great time with Antonia. As a businessman, it was a poor investment.
AT -----Original Message----- >From: Jeffrey Nelson <[hidden email]> >Sent: Jul 10, 2007 6:51 PM >To: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [SHADO] Conventions > >Having never been to such a convention, my knowledge of such events is less than zero. I didn't know that no one paid to see Ms. Ellis. I don't exactly know how I would define 'break even'. > > If a given person was there STRICTLY as a fan, they probably wouldn't consider traveling expenses as 'lost money'. On the other hand, someone attending STRICTLY as a business venture (vendor), has a completely different point of view (and rightfully so). I am assuming that Anthony Taylor attended as both a FAN and a BUSINESSMAN. So I guess I was just trying to get a feel as to whether he thought the endeavour was worthwhile as a person with BOTH points of view to consider. : ) > > Jeff > >Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I hope I'm not being rude by asking, but did you guys lose money >> sponsoring Antonia Ellis' appearance, or did you at least break even? > >I'm wondering how you would define "break even", since nobody >paid to see Antonia. I guess the question is, did the income >from her signing autographed photos and the increased interest >in the FAB Gear booth compensate for the cost of paying for her >travel / hotel / meals? > >I can say that, as someone who help transport her around >town and interviewed her onstage, that *I* definitely lost >money on that endeavor, just on my expenses to get there. >But it was worth it. :-) > >Even my wife, who hated the convention, thought it was >worth it, because she was compensated with a German >Shepherd puppy... :-) > >Marc > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Fair enough. Thanks for the reply, Anthony!
Jeff High Cotton <[hidden email]> wrote: As a fan I had a great time with Antonia. As a businessman, it was a poor investment. AT -----Original Message----- >From: Jeffrey Nelson <[hidden email]> >Sent: Jul 10, 2007 6:51 PM >To: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [SHADO] Conventions > >Having never been to such a convention, my knowledge of such events is less than zero. I didn't know that no one paid to see Ms. Ellis. I don't exactly know how I would define 'break even'. > > If a given person was there STRICTLY as a fan, they probably wouldn't consider traveling expenses as 'lost money'. On the other hand, someone attending STRICTLY as a business venture (vendor), has a completely different point of view (and rightfully so). I am assuming that Anthony Taylor attended as both a FAN and a BUSINESSMAN. So I guess I was just trying to get a feel as to whether he thought the endeavour was worthwhile as a person with BOTH points of view to consider. : ) > > Jeff > >Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I hope I'm not being rude by asking, but did you guys lose money >> sponsoring Antonia Ellis' appearance, or did you at least break even? > >I'm wondering how you would define "break even", since nobody >paid to see Antonia. I guess the question is, did the income >from her signing autographed photos and the increased interest >in the FAB Gear booth compensate for the cost of paying for her >travel / hotel / meals? > >I can say that, as someone who help transport her around >town and interviewed her onstage, that *I* definitely lost >money on that endeavor, just on my expenses to get there. >But it was worth it. :-) > >Even my wife, who hated the convention, thought it was >worth it, because she was compensated with a German >Shepherd puppy... :-) > >Marc > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Why yes I did...it didn't last very long though! Ive
been doing many other publications lately though. Jim M --- [hidden email] wrote: > Well put Anthony. Hope all is well with you. > > As far as where a UFO/Anderson type show should be, > I would think the best place is in your general > area. A good start would be to piggy back on large > shows as Anthony suggest or set up with some > information at a local comic or toys show and have > some fun. Stir up some local interest first. It > always nice to have fellow fans close by if > possible. > > I guess I miss the fandom most of all. That face to > face contact. The internet is a great way to contact > other fans, but often e-mail keeps you at home with > not much inter-action with others. Then with the > collectible market being shallowed up by the > internet once again fans do not have to go out to > look for items of interest. Keeping them from > getting out of there homes to where they would meet > other fans. > > I recall in the 1980s and 90s having contacts all > over the world buying, selling, and mostly trading > as most of you. Now I rarely get a letter from > anyone or even a reply. Conventions were everywhere > and you could always meet someone of the same > interest there. > > I guess I'm just as much to blame as anyone. Like I > mention before I havn't made much contact with > anyone lately. Life goes on and so do interest. > > Jim Main; If I remember correctly did you use to > publish a modeling magazine of some sort in the > 1990s? I remember this because I won a years free > subscription in which I identified a UFO picture of > the Moonbase interceptors. > > Martin > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html |
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I know that if one was organized in NYC I'd go there
again as both fan and dealer! Jim M --- High Cotton <[hidden email]> wrote: > As a fan I had a great time with Antonia. As a > businessman, it was a poor investment. > AT > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 |
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> As a fan I had a great time with Antonia. As a businessman, it was
> a poor investment. And one can still purchase a genuine autographed photo from the convention: http://fabgearusa.com/antonia_ellis_autographed_photo.html Marc |
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I have seen some pretty big Gerry Anderson related names over the
past few years on the East Coast. Shane Rimmer, Francis Matthews and Lois Maxwell have all appeared at these larger shows and have set up tables to sell merchandise and autographs. Maxwell was at a James Bond show while the other cases were at Chiller out of New Jersey. This show primarily has horror movie related guests but has also gone nostalgic covering shows like Laverne & Shirley, F-Troop, Lost in Space and so on. Robert Vaughn frequents this show. I am uncertain how the show functions but basically guests sell their goods but I don't know who pays for their airfare and hotel. I don't know if it was worth it for Rimmer and Matthews (although they certainly made a bit of money from me). They were not mobbed, at least when I was there which was good for me as I spent some time talking with them and getting pictures. There are little to no panel discussions or main talks. If any Anderson related guest has something to promote (Sylvia with her book or Gabrielle with her brother's CD) then that might give them more incentive to attend one of these shows. This type of show is the best bet I think but since most of the guests we would want to see are overseas in the UK, not sure if its worth it. I would think that Sylvia and Gerry would do well. Anyone who has other connections to movies or television might also do well. Roy Thinnes, Brian Blessed, and many of the others who guested in Space 1999 and perhaps UFO like Roy Dotrice, Chris Lee (of course), and Joan Collins. KP |
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