Re: UFO - The Animated Series

UFO - The Animated Series! What a great idea! I was
very impressed with the animated image of the UF0 -
Thank you very much for sharing this with us! I think
UFO definitely has 'legs' as an animated series.
Wouldn't it be great if there was an animated series
of UFO with the original actors doing the voices of
the characters they played in the original series. I
mean, don't get me wrong, a new series of UFO or even
a movie would be great too, but would we really accept
different actors playing the parts of our fave
characters? UFO - The Animated Series! More please!

Neil

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As Neil pointed out, this would be a great idea as an actual animated
series, a la the 1970's Star Trek cartoon (but with much better productuion
values of course!). For that one, they managed to get back all the original
cast members to record the voices (except Walter Koenig) and certainly just
about everyone from UFO is still with us (RIP Vladek Sheybal). I'd love to
see this happen! Pam

Looks like I might get a chance to whip out my Vladek Sheybal impression
after all!
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MCCAUG wrote:

MCCAUG <[hidden email]> wrote:
As Neil pointed out, this would be a great idea as an actual animated
series, a la the 1970's Star Trek cartoon (but with much better productuion
values of course!). For that one, they managed to get back all the original
cast members to record the voices (except Walter Koenig) and certainly just
about everyone from UFO is still with us (RIP Vladek Sheybal). I'd love to
see this happen! Pam

Not to argure about it, but I liked the Animated Star Trek. Considering the time period, and the mind set of Paramont, I thought it turned out pretty good.Especially when stacked up against Dragonball Z or Pokeemon.






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Actually Pam we are also sadly missing Norma Ronald, Grant Taylor and David
Warbeck as well as Vladek.


James K.


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> Looks like I might get a chance to whip out my Vladek Sheybal impression
> after all!

"Oooh, Betty! I've had a lotta harrasments today, Betty!"

Oh sorry, Frank Spencer wasn't in UFO was he. :-)

Dave.

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> Actually Pam we are also sadly missing Norma Ronald, Grant Taylor and David
> Warbeck as well as Vladek

And Maxwell Shaw who sdaly left us in 1985

Claire


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>And Maxwell Shaw who sdaly left us in 1985.

I knew I had forgotten someone.

James K.


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-- In SHADO@y..., Robert Thomas <screwedmorethenonce@y...> wrote:
> Not to argure about it, but I liked the Animated Star Trek.
>Considering the time period, and the mind set of Paramont, I thought
>it turned out pretty good.Especially when stacked up against
>Dragonball Z or Pokeemon.

I agree with you. I think it's all about story, and because Star
Trek The Animated Series was able to get many of the writers from the
original show, the plot quality was unusually high for a cartoon
originally shown on Saturday mornings.

Frankly, if the stories for an animated UFO series were of the same
caliber of the original show, one could reason that it would probably
do as well - if not better.

The thing that really attracts me to the idea of an animated UFO is
the fact there would be virtually no budget contraints on what was
shown. Seeing the aliens homeworld much less the detailed interior
of a UFO would no longer be a mystery, and could be as elaborate as
the imagination could bear. Of course, it may be this very mystery
which makes the original show so fascinating - what you don't see (or
at least, don't see too clearly)!

-Charles

As I recall, the animated Trek back in the 70's actually won some sort of
special award for being the best "children's" cartoon on Sat mornings or
some such thing.............Pam

While I tend to agree that the Animated Star Trek had high quality
for a Saturday morning cartoon there is also a danger in doing a animated
series. The main one is being a cartoon will tend to make most people think
it is only for kids and thereby needs to be toned down or worse yet given
children as main characters. This was something that Gene Roddenberry had to
fight NBC over when they did the Animated Star Trek that there would be not
kiddie space cadets on the Enterprise. Sadly he didn't stick to this
standard when they did ST:TNG.
Imagine the things they would want to change from the original UFO
concept to dumb it down for kids and to make it "politically correct" here in
the USA. About the only ones who seem to get the concept that animation
isn't just for kids is the Japanese who do some very adult Anime series.
If we were to have a Animated UFO series it would have to have the
same quality of stories as the series had or better(that will please those
who always complaint about the stories<g>) of aimed at a adult audience.
The animation would have to be top notch. I am thinging full animation, 24
frames per second rather than the limited 12 to 16 frames per second that is
now done on most Saturday morning cartoons and of a multi-plane type of the
classic Disney movies to give that 3-D look.
Also the character really need to be done in a realistic style. The
important thing is to make it to please the fans of the original not to
please people who only know the latest what popular TV shows and films.
Doing that is whay all the films based on once popular TV shows have done so
badly. They have abondon their core audience in favor or trying to please
people who have know idea what was so great about the original and in doing
so they fail to please everyone. Do it like the original and the quaility
will find the audience again! <imho>

James K.


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James has raised some VERY important points to ponder if UFO gets made as an
animated series. I HATED the character of Wesley Crusher on TNG, and most
people I know of hated him too. It really did dumb down the show at times
and I felt Wesley and characters like Doogie Howser MD (remember that piece
of crapola?) were totally unrealistic. I know there are a FEW brilliant kids
out there - but lest not litter our serious s-f efforts with them, huh?

Pam

James wrote:

While I tend to agree that the Animated Star Trek had high quality for a
Saturday morning cartoon there is also a danger in doing a animated series.
The main one is being a cartoon will tend to make most people think it is
only for kids and thereby needs to be toned down or worse yet given
children as main characters. This was something that Gene Roddenberry had
to fight NBC over when they did the Animated Star Trek that there would be
not
kiddie space cadets on the Enterprise. Sadly he didn't stick to this
standard when they did ST:TNG. Imagine the things they would want to change
from the original UFO concept to dumb it down for kids and to make it
"politically correct" here in the USA. About the only ones who seem to get
the concept that animation isn't just for kids is the Japanese who do some
very adult Anime series. If we were to have a Animated UFO series it would
have to have the same quality of stories as the series had or better(that
will please those who always complaint about the stories<g>) of aimed at a
adult audience. The animation would have to be top notch. I am thinking
full animation, 24 frames per second rather than the limited 12 to 16
frames per second that is now done on most Saturday morning cartoons and of
a multi-plane type of the classic Disney movies to give that 3-D look. Also
the character really need to be done in a realistic style. The important
thing is to make it to please the fans of the original not to please people
who only know the latest what popular TV shows and films. Doing that is
what all the films based on once popular TV shows have done so badly. They
have abondon their core audience in favor or trying to please people who
have know idea what was so great about the original and in doing so they
fail to please everyone. Do it like the original and the quaility will
find the audience again! <imho>

As far as Wesley not being popular I know that when I went with friends to
have lunch with Richard Arnold at Paramount we met at the wardrobe
department with Wil Wheaton and he had just passed his driving test - he was
also picking up his fan mail - all 3 cart loads of it - Richard said that
Wil got more fan mail than the rest of the cast put together.

I did find Wesley annoying too and told him so - Wil said good :o)

Cheers,
Lesleyxx


> James has raised some VERY important points to ponder if UFO gets made as
an
> animated series. I HATED the character of Wesley Crusher on TNG, and most
> people I know of hated him too. It really did dumb down the show at times
> and I felt Wesley and characters like Doogie Howser MD (remember that
piece
> of crapola?) were totally unrealistic. I know there are a FEW brilliant
kids
> out there - but lest not litter our serious s-f efforts with them, huh?
>
> Pam

-- In SHADO@y..., "Lesley" <shado@n...> wrote:

> I did find Wesley annoying too and told him so

Okay, I'll take Straker's illegitimate son with Lt. Ellis out of the
sequence, but the networks won't like it...;)

-Charles

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> Is this the son who dyes his hair purple, has several piercings,
has
> Generation X tattooed on one arm and Aliens Have Rights Too on the
other,
> the personality of Eninem, and keeps telling Straker he wants to be
a rap
> artist?

No, this is Straker's son, Jerod, who mysteriously shows up in epsode
6 in his early-teens, while the rest of the cast have not aged a day.

Whle visiting his mother on Moon Base, blonde, blue-eyed and
idealistic Jerod single-handedly saves the base after his mother and
the crew are mysteriously knocked out by an alien weapon that only
affects people over 18.

Now that's good SF-TV!

(Let the fan mail begin)

-Charles

If UFO were to go the animated route, I would prefer
an ANIME style approach to the artwork as opposed to
Filmation's style--which I thought was very static and
stiff.

The show could be a hit in Japan as well the West.

JF

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And I thought Wesley was an annoying little twerp? This "proposed" son of
Straker's sounds like a real lo-hoo-ser, as Ace Ventura would
say..........Pam


----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Barnard <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 4:01 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO - The Animated Series

>Okay, I'll take Straker's illegetimate son with Lt. Ellis out of the
sequence,
>but the networks won't like it..:)

>-Charles

Perhaps not Charles but you won't have always sleep with one eye open for
fear of Klingon Death Squads!

James K.


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Just because a character like Wesley Crusher gets loads of fan mail
doen't mean that having that character in a series is a good idea for the
series only that many fans would like to have him as their "Boy Toy" if you
get my drift.
As Capt. Amelia<g>wisely said why go for raw hamburger when you can
have Prime Rib. However I will conceed the point that it might be need to
have younger character in the show. However it would be best to keep it in
the bounds of what might really happen. Say having new SHADO recruits for
the new younger characters this would put them in the 18 to early 20's range.
Young enough without being too young. Also I don't see where having
character who are related to other characters is a good idea. That is
getting away from Sci-Fi and into family drama.
But its Charles idea and he is the one doing the artwork, which is
very good by the way Charles, so it is really up to him where he wants to go
with it. Looking foreward to seeing how you animate the characters and how
you render them.

James K.


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