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Re: UFO pistol on ebay - Rip off - Maybe?

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harada357

Re: UFO pistol on ebay - Rip off - Maybe?

In a message dated 3/29/05 10:25:08 AM Central Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Ah, you admit that your ignorant of this then.
It's not a licensed collectable, but it is exactly what the seller says
it is - your lack of knowledge on the subject notwithstanding.
Not trying to be a jerk, just want the people of the list to know the facts.
AT

My ignorance on the entry aside...I do happen to collect toy space guns and
buy and sell a few on ebay. I also build prop replicas and sell them.
My portfolio as a reference:
_http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5958274758_
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5958274758)
_http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3872470415_
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3872470415)
_http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5960391906&
rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEUS%3AIT&rd=1_
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5960391906&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEUS:IT&rd=1)

Babylon 5 PPG Rifle Prop
_http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3875986027&ssPageName
=STRK:MEUS:IT_
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3875986027&ssPageName=STRK:MEUS:IT)

I do know a little about what I am talking about. I am working on a Resin
kit for the UFO Shado Pistol. I only have screen caps to go by - but I will
make a close replica Kit for the money. I will offer it on ebay when
complete. I did not know there there was that many people interested. I love prop
guns and REALLY loce the SHado Weapons. I have even made 3D models of them.

Anyone interested in a kit - look at these other auctions - and drop me a
line.

Thanks. Gordon.

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High Cotton

Re: UFO pistol on ebay - Rip off - Maybe?

[hidden email] wrote:

> Babylon 5 PPG Rifle Prop
> _http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3875986027&ssPageName
> =STRK:MEUS:IT_
> (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3875986027&ssPageName=STRK:MEUS:IT)

Nice work!

> I do know a little about what I am talking about. I am working on a Resin
> kit for the UFO Shado Pistol. I only have screen caps to go by - but I will
> make a close replica Kit for the money. I will offer it on ebay when
> complete. I did not know there there was that many people interested. I love prop
> guns and REALLY loce the SHado Weapons. I have even made 3D models of them.
>
> Anyone interested in a kit - look at these other auctions - and drop me a
> line.

Very cool, I'd be interested. But truthfully, unless you buy a license
for your kit from Granada, it's no more an official UFO collectable than
the Echogun... right?
More accurate to be sure, and handcrafted - but not more official.
I have no real problem with that, if I like it and equate with the UFO
guns from the series, I'll buy it. If I don't, I won't.
But I won't send messages to this list accusing you of ripping off fans
simply because you're making unofficial SHADO gun kits...
AT

harada357

Re: UFO pistol on ebay - Rip off - Maybe?

In reply to this post by harada357

"AT" wrote:

Very cool, I'd be interested. But truthfully, unless you buy a license
for your kit from Granada, it's no more an official UFO collectable than
the Echogun... right?
More accurate to be sure, and handcrafted - but not more official.
I have no real problem with that, if I like it and equate with the UFO
guns from the series, I'll buy it. If I don't, I won't.
But I won't send messages to this list accusing you of ripping off fans
simply because you're making unofficial SHADO gun kits...
AT

RESPONSE:

I sent a message to the list to warn my friends and fellow fans to ASK
questions first - before you BUY. Friends should look out for friends. I would
be remiss to let someone jump off a cliff without looking. So I spoke up. No
delaer should fear QUESTIONS and scrutiny if they are selling on the level.
If it is a shady deal - they need to worry. WHY ARE YOU WORRIED about
asking questions.

I am not looking to exploit UFO fans - I was working on the model for a
personal collection along with other friends. Why are you taking such a stance
on WARNING the un-informed that some things on Ebay are misrepresented and
rippoffs. I know the seller is a UFO fan.

Are you the Seller on Ebay? That would explain your problem.

I sign my name at the end of my emails - because I stand behind what i say.

I notice you sign Initials - "AT" - Does not mean much. If you are going to
say something - sign your name to it.

I am not loking for an "Official" UFO Replica title - I would not sell
it to anyone without stating it is a Fan produced resin kit reproduction - by
a fan for fans. The prop kits are not commercially produced or offerred
anywhere. I am not looking to sell you anything.

This reference to the UFO Price guide - which I admit I have never seen - is
somewhat suspect because PRICE guides are misleading to those who do not
understand that a collectable is only worth what someone else is willing to pay
to get it.

I ask you would you pay $ 1,499.99 for the Pistol listed on Ebay as a UFO
collectable?

Why would you let someone else you know as a FAN pay that amount for
someothing that may not be what it is represented? Friends don't let friends -
Drive Drunk - or buy SWAMP LAND at premium prices. If the item is what it is
stated - it should be able to stand up to a little scrutiny. If the item was
selling for $ 20-40.00 - OK no harm - no foul. I was bringing up a point the
UFO fans should be cautious - know what you are buying. I am not acusing
anyone of outright fraud - I am trying to get fellow fans to ASK questions - be
informed - BEFORE you buy - that is all. Why would you be so adverse to
ASKING questions?

AT- are you the seller on EBAY?

Gordon.

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High Cotton

Re: UFO pistol on ebay - Rip off - Maybe?

No Gordon (and what's your last name?), I am not the seller on ebay. Are
you a pissed off, outbid bidder trying to warn everyone else off so you
can steal it for a song?
One assumption is just as logical as the other.
I'm not worried about people asking questions - you didn't ask questions
in your post; you simply stated the whole thing was a ripoff and that
the deal was shady. Since you have no experience with the seller, the
product, or UFO collectables, I believe your message was unwarranted and
potentially libelous. A prudent person wouldn't have made a fool of
themselves in front of the whole group by speaking up on a subject he
had no experience in.
I suggest if you have anything else to say to me regarding this subject
you send it to me off-list. Your beligerance and ignorance are probably
offending more readers than just me... no reason to subject anyone else
to your ignorant crap.
Anthony Taylor
Proprietor,
http://fabgearusa.com

[hidden email] wrote:

> "AT" wrote:
>
> Very cool, I'd be interested. But truthfully, unless you buy a license
> for your kit from Granada, it's no more an official UFO collectable than
> the Echogun... right?
> More accurate to be sure, and handcrafted - but not more official.
> I have no real problem with that, if I like it and equate with the UFO
> guns from the series, I'll buy it. If I don't, I won't.
> But I won't send messages to this list accusing you of ripping off fans
> simply because you're making unofficial SHADO gun kits...
> AT
>
> RESPONSE:
>
> I sent a message to the list to warn my friends and fellow fans to ASK
> questions first - before you BUY. Friends should look out for friends. I would
> be remiss to let someone jump off a cliff without looking. So I spoke up. No
> delaer should fear QUESTIONS and scrutiny if they are selling on the level.
> If it is a shady deal - they need to worry. WHY ARE YOU WORRIED about
> asking questions.
>
> I am not looking to exploit UFO fans - I was working on the model for a
> personal collection along with other friends. Why are you taking such a stance
> on WARNING the un-informed that some things on Ebay are misrepresented and
> rippoffs. I know the seller is a UFO fan.
>
> Are you the Seller on Ebay? That would explain your problem.
>
> I sign my name at the end of my emails - because I stand behind what i say.
>
> I notice you sign Initials - "AT" - Does not mean much. If you are going to
> say something - sign your name to it.
>
> I am not loking for an "Official" UFO Replica title - I would not sell
> it to anyone without stating it is a Fan produced resin kit reproduction - by
> a fan for fans. The prop kits are not commercially produced or offerred
> anywhere. I am not looking to sell you anything.
>
> This reference to the UFO Price guide - which I admit I have never seen - is
> somewhat suspect because PRICE guides are misleading to those who do not
> understand that a collectable is only worth what someone else is willing to pay
> to get it.
>
> I ask you would you pay $ 1,499.99 for the Pistol listed on Ebay as a UFO
> collectable?
>
> Why would you let someone else you know as a FAN pay that amount for
> someothing that may not be what it is represented? Friends don't let friends -
> Drive Drunk - or buy SWAMP LAND at premium prices. If the item is what it is
> stated - it should be able to stand up to a little scrutiny. If the item was
> selling for $ 20-40.00 - OK no harm - no foul. I was bringing up a point the
> UFO fans should be cautious - know what you are buying. I am not acusing
> anyone of outright fraud - I am trying to get fellow fans to ASK questions - be
> informed - BEFORE you buy - that is all. Why would you be so adverse to
> ASKING questions?
>
> AT- are you the seller on EBAY?
>
> Gordon.
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Marc Martin

Re: UFO pistol on ebay - Rip off - Maybe?

Administrator

Well, I think this topic has worn out it's welcome... :-(

Any more posts on this topic will be moderated away into
the aether...

Meanwhile, we can play "put a caption to this photo":

http://ufoseries.com/straker/fosterStraker.jpg

How about Foster saying "You didn't buy that on eBay, did
you?"

:-)

Marc

High Cotton

Re: UFO pistol on ebay - Rip off - Maybe?

Marc,
LMAO!
;)
AT

Marc Martin wrote:

>
> Well, I think this topic has worn out it's welcome... :-(
>
> Any more posts on this topic will be moderated away into
> the aether...
>
> Meanwhile, we can play "put a caption to this photo":
>
> http://ufoseries.com/straker/fosterStraker.jpg
>
> How about Foster saying "You didn't buy that on eBay, did
> you?"

Michael Blake-2

RE: UFO pistol on ebay - Rip off - Maybe?

In reply to this post by Marc Martin

"Paul, didn't I ask you to to fill the lighter-fluid?!"

Michael Blake

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Martin [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:17 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO pistol on ebay - Rip off - Maybe?

Well, I think this topic has worn out it's welcome... :-(

Any more posts on this topic will be moderated away into
the aether...

Meanwhile, we can play "put a caption to this photo":

http://ufoseries.com/straker/fosterStraker.jpg

How about Foster saying "You didn't buy that on eBay, did
you?"

:-)

Marc

Yahoo! Groups Links

davrecon-3

Re: UFO pistol on ebay - Rip off - Maybe?

In reply to this post by Marc Martin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO pistol on ebay - Rip off - Maybe?

>
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> Meanwhile, we can play "put a caption to this photo":
>
> http://ufoseries.com/straker/fosterStraker.jpg
>

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