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SURVIVAL

Marc Martin
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Hi all,

We had a good discussion going about our current episode up for
discussion, SURVIVAL, but then it faded away. Anyone got any more
comments about SURVIVAL? We've still got a week left if you do!

Marc
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Veres, Mary
Was anyone else upset like myself at the ending? It really bothered me--asa
kid-- that the alien got shot without a chance. As an adult, it still bothers
me that it just ends! What an opportunity for Foster argue philosophy with
Straker over his decisions to kill rather than communicate with the aliens.
That could have been a whole other episode with Foster displaying some of
that stubornness he had. It's like a bad inding to a book that you just
can't get past because the book is so good...

Mary
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jamesgibbon
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"Veres, Mary" wrote:
> Was anyone else upset like myself at the ending? It really bothered me--as a
> kid-- that the alien got shot without a chance. As an adult, it still bothers
> me that it just ends!

In a sense, yes - I find it really disturbing, and I remember
being upset myself when I watched it for the first time. But
that's what makes it so effective ..
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bel3762001
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This was one of the episodes that I've only seen thanks to the DVD set. I
had read the Robert Miall novelization some time ago. I did get a good laugh
when Foster falls against the rock and it shakes.

Overall, a really cool episode.

Brian






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JEK
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On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Veres, Mary" <[hidden email]> wrote:

<<...Was anyone else upset like myself at the ending? It really bothered
me--as a
kid-- that the alien got shot without a chance. As an adult, it still
bothers
me that it just ends! ...>>

Speaking for myself as a 9-year-old back in the early 70s, I felt that the
death of the alien (much like that of the guest-artist in Flight Path)
indicated that I was watching an 'adult' television program. No more neat
and happy endings ala' Thunderbirds, even if some of the music was the
same.

Similary, back in 1984 critics were impressed with Miama Vice because the
heroes did not always win. It was seen as a touch of realism over the
likes of Magnum PI. But remember -- UFO had it first! <w>

Jeff Kuzma
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jamesgibbon
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Jeff Kuzma wrote:

> Similary, back in 1984 critics were impressed with Miama Vice
> because the heroes did not always win. It was seen as a touch of
> realism over the likes of Magnum PI. But remember -- UFO had it
> first!
>

Captain Scarlet had it before that! I well remember one bank
holiday, in the late '60s in England. I had spent most of the
day sunbathing and kicking a football around in the garden with
my parents and brother, but I went into the house to watch
Captain Scarlet.

When I rejoined my family in the garden, my mum asked me if had
enjoyed the programme, and I replied "yes, but the Mysterons won
this time". She thought I was pulling her leg and flatly
refused to believe it!
JEK
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JEK
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On 27 Oct 2002, James Gibbon <[hidden email]> posted:

(the heroes did not always win.)

> Captain Scarlet had it before that!...

You are absolutely correct, James! Unfortunately, my understanding
of Captain Scarlet was rather fuzzy until the 80s. I watched it the
summer before I turned five years old, and the concepts were way
above my understanding at the time; I spent then next ten years wondering
just who Scarlet was actually fighting.  

Jeff Kuzma