Speaking of Wanda

Speaking of Wanda...did anyone else find her smile in "Destruction" a little
more than "creepy" when she smiles at the captain of SkyDiver (after she's
been annoying the hell out of him by taking his sub up and down to crush
depth)? She just seems to be one of those people that with one "look" can
look altogther "spooky" LOL

Samantha

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I'm a big fan of Lake.
>
> Amelia
>
I'm just the opposite and tend to agree with Samantha. I hope I don't get
flamed for this, but I never quite liked her entry into the show. I think I
felt the same way when I first saw the series in US syndication in the
1970s.
Don't get me wrong, she's a beautiful woman, and after listening to her
commentary, I came to like her as a person. Her character, though, struck me
as sort of "conventional."
Hard to explain, but most of the characters in the show were a kinds of
1960s, slightly trippy, definitely unconventional group of people. As a guy,
of course, I was more intrigued by the women in tight clothes, the purple
hair etc.
Col. Lake, however, seemed more conventional. Of course, she didn't wear any
of the same kind of clothes the other women wore. She mainly wore pantsuit
type clothing, though occasionally with a kind of daring blouse. Her hair
seemed more like something out of a Breck commercial in the early 1960s than
the rest of the women in the show, which I considered kind of post-Beatles,
quasi-Carnaby Street in their looks. (All of this is generalization, I
realize, and I'm using some stereotypes to try to make my point, and they
may not completely work.)

And then her role for the most part seemed to be to make longing looks at
Straker. I don't know if she was considered a star in UK before this show. I
almost get the feeling that she was put on the show for her star quality and
she wasn't expected to do or be much other than window dressing. The only
example I can think of -- a pure fabrication -- was if you took a TV show as
unique and atypical as, say, "Seinfeld" and then gave a regular part to say,
Liza Minelli, simply because you wanted to bank on her star quality.

And then of course, there was the burgeoning chemistry between her and
Straker, which I'm sure would have been developed in a second season. There
was that one episode where he takes her coffee cup from her, drinks from it,
brings it to his SHADO office, puts it down and then she picks it up again
and starts drinking from it again. Hmmmm...

Just my two cents. I was 10 when I saw UFO for the first time and it was 30 yrs before I was able to see it again. I bought the DVDs. I honestly did not remember her at all. The first episode referred to her as Dr. Lake. She was responsible for the device that made communications from earth to moon almost instantly. Col. Freeman put his move on her and they had dinner after he saved her life. When she reappeared later she was Col. Lake and she was a very strong character. I like her more now than I did 30 yrs ago. What episode had the coffee cup? I don't remember that at all.

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I'm a big fan of Lake.
>
> Amelia
>
I'm just the opposite and tend to agree with Samantha. I hope I don't get
flamed for this, but I never quite liked her entry into the show. I think I
felt the same way when I first saw the series in US syndication in the
1970s.
Don't get me wrong, she's a beautiful woman, and after listening to her
commentary, I came to like her as a person. Her character, though, struck me
as sort of "conventional."
Hard to explain, but most of the characters in the show were a kinds of
1960s, slightly trippy, definitely unconventional group of people. As a guy,
of course, I was more intrigued by the women in tight clothes, the purple
hair etc.
Col. Lake, however, seemed more conventional. Of course, she didn't wear any
of the same kind of clothes the other women wore. She mainly wore pantsuit
type clothing, though occasionally with a kind of daring blouse. Her hair
seemed more like something out of a Breck commercial in the early 1960s than
the rest of the women in the show, which I considered kind of post-Beatles,
quasi-Carnaby Street in their looks. (All of this is generalization, I
realize, and I'm using some stereotypes to try to make my point, and they
may not completely work.)

And then her role for the most part seemed to be to make longing looks at
Straker. I don't know if she was considered a star in UK before this show. I
almost get the feeling that she was put on the show for her star quality and
she wasn't expected to do or be much other than window dressing. The only
example I can think of -- a pure fabrication -- was if you took a TV show as
unique and atypical as, say, "Seinfeld" and then gave a regular part to say,
Liza Minelli, simply because you wanted to bank on her star quality.

And then of course, there was the burgeoning chemistry between her and
Straker, which I'm sure would have been developed in a second season. There
was that one episode where he takes her coffee cup from her, drinks from it,
brings it to his SHADO office, puts it down and then she picks it up again
and starts drinking from it again. Hmmmm...






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Samantha,
THat was one of my favorite Col Lake moments. I thought she was trying to tell him that she knew his ship could take the extra punishment without actually saying a word. It was very unusual for a woman to take over a military vessel and put it through its paces.
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Speaking of Wanda...did anyone else find her smile in "Destruction" a little
more than "creepy" when she smiles at the captain of SkyDiver (after she's
been annoying the hell out of him by taking his sub up and down to crush
depth)? She just seems to be one of those people that with one "look" can
look altogther "spooky" LOL

Samantha




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From: "legg bryan" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Speaking of Wanda


>
> Samantha,
> THat was one of my favorite Col Lake moments. I
thought she was trying to tell him that she knew his ship could take the
extra punishment without actually saying a word. It was very unusual for a
woman to take over a military vessel and put it through its paces.
> Samantha Peterson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Speaking of Wanda...did anyone else find her smile in "Destruction" a
little
> more than "creepy" when she smiles at the captain of SkyDiver (after she's
> been annoying the hell out of him by taking his sub up and down to crush
> depth)? She just seems to be one of those people that with one "look" can
> look altogther "spooky" LOL
>
> Samantha
>
>


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Struck me as careless incompetence on her part. That is one on my most
unfavorite moments of her's. It showed that she was clearly out of her
element down there commanding that sub, totally lacking an understanding of
submariner principles and engineering, and should never be placed aboard it
again.

Dave H.

Hi,

I don't think I have read about Wanda's appearances in the UK sit com 'Only
fools and horses' anywhere within the group or anywhere else, but I could be
wrong.

Keith

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From: "legg bryan" <[hidden email]>
> What episode had the coffee cup? I don't remember that at all.
>

I'll have to go back and check. I don't remember the episode, but I remember
exactly what it looked like.
At one point she's in SHADO hq drinking coffee when Straker enters from the
left part of the scene and takes the cup from her. He smiles in an
I'm-in-charge-here kind of way and she smiles kind of partly in surprise.
Then they get to his SHADO office and he puts the cup down. He is then in
the foreground of the scene, talking to someone I believe, and you see her
in the background walk over to the desk, pick up the cup and start sipping
from it while watching and listening to what's going on with Straker in the
foreground.

I have already watched all the episodes back to back and I dont remember this at all. Thanks dennis now I have to watch all the Wanda episodes so I can find this gem. Who knows what goes on in SHADO now that pesky Mary is out of the way. LOL

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From: "legg bryan"
> What episode had the coffee cup? I don't remember that at all.
>

I'll have to go back and check. I don't remember the episode, but I remember
exactly what it looked like.
At one point she's in SHADO hq drinking coffee when Straker enters from the
left part of the scene and takes the cup from her. He smiles in an
I'm-in-charge-here kind of way and she smiles kind of partly in surprise.
Then they get to his SHADO office and he puts the cup down. He is then in
the foreground of the scene, talking to someone I believe, and you see her
in the background walk over to the desk, pick up the cup and start sipping
from it while watching and listening to what's going on with Straker in the
foreground.






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Well, I just tried to do a quick search, bouncing around from there to there
on various episodes. I guess I'll have to look more in depth when I get a
chance.
As I recall (though I could be wrong) it was early in an episode. Straker
was just getting to work in the morning.


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From: "legg bryan" <[hidden email]>
> I have already watched all the episodes back to back and I dont
> remember this at all. Thanks dennis now I have to watch all the Wanda
> episodes so I can find this gem. Who knows what goes on in SHADO now that
> pesky Mary is out of the way. LOL
>

Hi,

I believe the episode you mean is "The Long Sleep"

Best to all :)

Griff

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Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:33 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Speaking of Wanda

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From: "legg bryan" <[hidden email]>
> What episode had the coffee cup? I don't remember that at all.
>

I'll have to go back and check. I don't remember the episode, but I remember
exactly what it looked like.
At one point she's in SHADO hq drinking coffee when Straker enters from the
left part of the scene and takes the cup from her. He smiles in an
I'm-in-charge-here kind of way and she smiles kind of partly in surprise. Then
they get to his SHADO office and he puts the cup down. He is then in
the foreground of the scene, talking to someone I believe, and you see her
in the background walk over to the desk, pick up the cup and start sipping
from it while watching and listening to what's going on with Straker in the
foreground.

Dennis,
I suggest you take a good look at Col. Lake in The Man Who Came Back.
She does the Moonbase uniform justice. Spooky smile? Well its interesting but
is not exactly like she is trying to do a blue blonde take on Barbara Steele
the definative spooky British Beauty.
I thin they really did more in trying to develop a character for Lake than
any of the other female characters. The others got short changed and we only
get perhaps very brief glimpses of their personalities but with Lake we get to
she more of her personal side than we do the others.

James K.


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I took the smile as, "WHEW!~ So glad I'm not going to be crushed to death inside this sub along with YOU, Captain!"

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> What episode had the coffee cup?
> I don't remember that at all.

It was MINDBENDER, when Straker needs "moral support" from Virginia
because he has to meet Henderson in his office.

Strange, so far I've never payed attention that Virginia picks up the
coffee cup again and drinks from it. Thanks for puting my nose to it!

Christian