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Re: THE CAT WITH TEN LIVES

jamesgibbon
[hidden email] wrote:
> I believe that a DVD can be recorded on VHS but i'm not sure and
> I'm sure that if this is possible it won't be long before someone
> comes up with a way to stop it.
>

They did come up with a way to stop it (Macrovision), but it's
possible to defeat it by having the DVD player modified - however
I believe they are working on new copy-protection methods all the
time. As for the extra features and so on, if you have a
Macrovision-hacked DVD player, you could make a VHS recording
from it of someone flicking through the various menus and
features.

As far as audio is concerned, it would be easy to transfer a
commentary (for example) to a CD from the analogue outs.

Cheers
James
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Re: THE CAT WITH TEN LIVES

Pam McCaughey
In reply to this post by Denise Felt
What did I hate about this eps? Well, first off, it's dumb for aliens to use
a cat to do their evil bidding. Much as I ADORE felines and have been owned
by cats for most of my 44 yrs, scientists who study them say their
intelligence level is about that of an 18 month old human. So, why would
aliens bother when they could and have used humans? Siamese cats are esp
finiky and I can see one (we have two, so I know) giving the aliens the
feline version of the finger if they tried to interfere with their mainline
thought processes which usually include only eating, sleeping, defecating
and watching birds. Lastly of course, I thought the ending most horrible.

Pam
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Re: THE CAT WITH TEN LIVES

anthonyappleyard <MCLSSAA2@fs2.mt.umist.ac.uk>
--- In SHADO@y..., "Pam McCaughey" <editor@a...> wrote:
> What did I hate about this eps? Well, first off, it's dumb for
> aliens to use a cat to do their evil bidding...Lastly of course, I
> thought the ending most horrible.

So did I. My family has had cats in the past.
When in a story that I wrote for my own interest, I referred
passingly to this incident, I ignored the cat and wrote this:-
"Once they attacked Moonbase and it had to use its emergency close-
in defences." I [= Straker] said, "During this a UFO got through to
Earth and picked up a man called Regan and his wife and 3 others on a
country road at night near a spaceport. Its crew kept the rest of
them, but when they found Regan was one of my Interceptor pilots they
implanted orders in him and let him go, so next time he flew in an
Interceptor he tried to kamikaze into Moonbase and only just in time
came to his senses and pulled away; that was one narrow escape for us.
Regan still crashed and it left us without Interceptor 1 until I ould
replace it. He'd been a good pilot. ...".
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Re: THE CAT WITH TEN LIVES

Gareth Bevan
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You can copy DVDs onto tape, but only if either (a) the DVD is not encoded
with Macrovision (which the Carlton ones are) or (b) you have a device to
turn off the Macrovision!


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>I believe that a DVD can be recorded on VHS but i'm not sure and I'm sure
>that if this is possible it won't be long before someone comes up with a
>way
>to stop it.
>
>James K.
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RE: UFO and Bond films

Tafkar
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Re: UFO and Bond films

angelo_finamore
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"Ron DeMedeiros" <rjdshado@h...> wrote:
> Also, Shane Rimmer played the submarine captain in a Bond movie, I
believe
> it was The Spy Who Loved Me.
>
> Gordon Vernon who played the father in "The Sound of Silence"
episode was in
> Goldfinger.

The correct name was Richard Vernon.
And from IMDB: Died 4 December 1997,
London, England, UK. (parkinson's disease)

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angelo_finamore
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ooppss...
and not forget Steven Berkoff (Capt. Steve Minto UFO "Destruction"
and "The Cat With Ten Lives") as Orlov in Bond "Octopussy".

Marc,
I buy the different version of the UFO THE SERIES Vol 1 from
http://www.moviesunlimited.com
but I find only the Vol. 1.
I will ask for the others.

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Re: THE CAT WITH TEN LIVES

Pam McCaughey
In reply to this post by Denise Felt
As a way of countering this eps with its misrepresentation of Siamese cats,
I wrote my own fan fic story called The Cat That Saved Straker's Life. It's
on the SHADO Library. So, I guess I can say the eps PO'ed me so much over
the last 30 yrs that it spurred me to write a story......Pam



"So did I. My family has had cats in the past.
When in a story that I wrote for my own interest, I referred
passingly to this incident...." AA
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Re: UFO and Bond films

jamesgibbon
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"angelo_finamore" wrote:

> >
> > Gordon Vernon who played the father in "The Sound of Silence"
> > episode was in Goldfinger.
>
> The correct name was Richard Vernon.
> And from IMDB: Died 4 December 1997,
> London, England, UK. (parkinson's disease)
>

I hadn't heard that, that's a shame. He was also Slartibartfast
(just guessing the spelling there ..) in The Hitch-hiker's Guide
To The Galaxy.


James
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Re: THE CAT WITH TEN LIVES

Marc Martin
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In reply to this post by Denise Felt
Pam writes:
> What did I hate about this eps? Well, first off, it's dumb for
> aliens to use a cat to do their evil bidding. Much as I ADORE
> felines and have been owned by cats for most of my 44 yrs,
> scientists who study them say their intelligence level is about
> that of an 18 month old human. So, why would aliens bother when
> they could and have used humans?

Well, obviously cats are able to get through SHADO security, while
a human wouldn't. So it seems like a good idea to me. Also,
I don't think the intelligence level of cats is an issue. After
all, I've read that human beings utilize less than 10% of their
brain capacity, so I would assume that both humans & cats brainpower
could be expanded FAR above normal.

As for the part of the story where the cat is able to control
the mind of an Interceptor pilot out in lunar orbit, well, this
is the part that I find a bit... lacking... although, I've read
that pyschics don't have a distance limitation when doing
a reading, so perhaps Alien-controlled cats don't have any
distance limitations either... :-)

Marc
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Re: THE CAT WITH TEN LIVES

williams_lisac
Marc Martin wrote:

>After all, I've read that human beings utilize less than 10% of their
>brain capacity, so I would assume that both humans & cats brainpower could
>be expanded FAR above normal.

Except that the old 10% canard is quite untrue. It's a notorious myth; even
has a page in snopes (see http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm 
), though there are plenty of other references with more detail on both how
this factoid has propagated and why it's nonsensical.

- Lisa

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Re: THE CAT WITH TEN LIVES

anthonyappleyard <MCLSSAA2@fs2.mt.umist.ac.uk>
In reply to this post by Pam McCaughey
--- In SHADO@y..., "Pam McCaughey" <editor@a...> wrote:
> As a way of countering this eps with its misrepresentation of
> Siamese cats, I wrote my own fan fic story called The Cat That
> Saved Straker's Life. It's on the SHADO Library. So, I guess I can
> say the eps PO'ed me so much over the last 30 yrs that it spurred
> me to write a story......Pam

Same as that I got PO'ed with seeing the aliens being blown to gas
along with their ships that I wrote a story where they land and the
public find about them and some aliens stay on Earth.
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Re: UFO and Bond films

anthonyappleyard <MCLSSAA2@fs2.mt.umist.ac.uk>
In reply to this post by Tafkar
--- In SHADO@y..., "Hemmings, R.K." <rkh@l...> wrote:

> Jonathan wrote:
> > >since Lois Maxwell was brought up, can you name the
> > >two actors who were in both bond films and UFO??
> > >Give you two hints:
> > >the spy who loved me
> > Michael Billington
> > >you only live twice
> > Ed Bishop
> > Also don't forget Vladek Sheybal (Doctor Jackson) played
> > Kronsteen in "From Russia WIth Love."
...
That would be just the idea for a crossover story: Bond blunders into
a SHADO operation, or Bond finds and investigates something furtive
and finds that is secretly aided by off-world men in red spacesuits,
and perhaps he captures a UFO and finds how to fly and fight in it,
etc.
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Re: THE CAT WITH TEN LIVES

John D'Alton
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
Marc wrote:
> Well, obviously cats are able to get through SHADO security, while
> a human wouldn't.

IMHO this is a strong point in the story- i mean, *who* would ever suspect a
harmless cat <g>. It's clever.

>Also,
> I don't think the intelligence level of cats is an issue. After
> all, I've read that human beings utilize less than 10% of their
> brain capacity, so I would assume that both humans & cats brainpower
> could be expanded FAR above normal.

Yes, it's the alien's intelligence- the cat is just a vehicle, a bit like
Heinlein's "Puppetmasters". And judging from the level of intelligence shown
by many cats I know visavis many humans on the internet, i'd say cats are
generally more astute anyway!!

> As for the part of the story where the cat is able to control
> the mind of an Interceptor pilot out in lunar orbit, well, this
> is the part that I find a bit... lacking

Yes, this is a real weakness, unless you postulate psychic distance stuff or
thought-control riding some emotional carrier wave from SHADO HQ. I mean, if
just a cat was needed the aliens could put a cat into orbit and control the
pilot from there- much closer. So it makes more logical ? sense story-wise
for there to be a reason the cat was on Earth- carrier waves maybe?

Otherwise the story is mostly logical, but not one of my favourites. Seems
to lack something. No quirky lines from Straker or whatever...

John D'Alton, Network Overdrive
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third,
shine all my shoes. There, isn't that better?
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Re: UFO and Bond films

Denise Felt
In reply to this post by Bruce Sherman
>"anthonyappleyard" <[hidden email]>
wrote:
>That would be just the idea for a crossover story: Bond blunders into
>a SHADO operation, or Bond finds and investigates something furtive
>and finds that is secretly aided by off-world men in red spacesuits,
>and perhaps he captures a UFO and finds how to fly and fight in it,
>etc.

Anthony!
Write the story, would you, and stop teasing us with all these cool ideas!
Come on, give us a Bond crossover to read!!!
Denise

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Re: UFO and Bond films

Denise Felt
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>"Philippa Timms" <[hidden email]>
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>I've got a fanzine somewhere where the Professionals are in Shado. I think
>Bodie ends up on Moonbase.

Phillipa,
(BTW, pretty name!) I've seen reference to The Professionals before in this
group, but I've never heard of them. Are they a take-off of the Bond movies
by any chance? Or some other secret service series? I too have read a
crossover story at the Library, but since I didn't know the characters, I'm
sure I missed some allusions that were made. The one I read didn't let any
of the professionals go to Moonbase. SOunds intriguing!
Denise

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Philippa Timms
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I've got a fanzine somewhere where the Professionals are in Shado. I think
Bodie ends up on Moonbase.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denise Felt" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: UFO and Bond films


> >"anthonyappleyard" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >That would be just the idea for a crossover story: Bond blunders into
> >a SHADO operation, or Bond finds and investigates something furtive
> >and finds that is secretly aided by off-world men in red spacesuits,
> >and perhaps he captures a UFO and finds how to fly and fight in it,
> >etc.
>
> Anthony!
> Write the story, would you, and stop teasing us with all these cool ideas!
> Come on, give us a Bond crossover to read!!!
> Denise
>
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Re: UFO and Bond films

SumitonJD
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The Professional was a series done by Brian Clemens who also did The
Avengers. This series also use many of the same team. Music by Laurie
Johnson etc.
The series covered the activies of CI5 a select group of men and women
who were Professionals in their field this being counterterrorism. The main
character in the series were George Cowley, nicked named the Cow, played by
Gordon Jackson. He was the head of the team, the brains but also tough. The
brawns behind him were provided by Bodie and Doyle. Bodie played by Lewis
Collins was ex-SAS and very tough but also a ladies man so he would be a bit
of James Bond type. Doyle played by Martin Shaw, a ex CID(Criminal
Investigation Department). A man of quiet demeanor till you get his temper
up then look out. The show was very hard hitting for its time. It was
never shown in the USA because it was considered too violent. But then they
considered The A-Team too violent. I guess the fact that Bodie and Doyle
could hit who they shot at made a difference<g>.

James K.
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williams_lisac
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>It was never shown in the USA because it was considered too violent.

This is not correct. The Professionals was not widely aired in the US, but
it was shown in a number of locations. Nor was it considered especially
violent for its genre here -- in fact, it had no more, and probably less,
on-screen violence than the US show which inspired it: Starsky & Hutch.

For those wishing to see what the characters look like, The Professionals
is also featured in my frame capture library. As for crossing it over with
UFO -- well, they're set at about the same time, but in quite different
universes. The costume clashes alone boggle the mind...

- Lisa

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Re: UFO and Bond films

jamesgibbon
In reply to this post by Bruce Sherman
"Denise Felt" wrote:

> I've seen reference to The Professionals before in this group,
> but I've never heard of them. Are they a take-off of the Bond
> movies by any chance? Or some other secret service series? I too
> have read a crossover story at the Library, but since I didn't
> know the characters, I'm sure I missed some allusions that were
> made. The one I read didn't let any of the professionals go to
> Moonbase. SOunds intriguing!

Hello Denise ..

The Professionals is a TV series based on the adventures of C15,
a kind of cross between a domestic (ie UK-based) Secret Service
and a special armed section of the Police Force. Mainly centred
around Bodie and Doyle, archetypal 'TV tough guys' who drive
around at high speed in powerful cars, love each other in an
unspoken, manly way, take the p*** out of each other all the
time and shoot at people a lot.

Or was that Starsky and Hutch ..

There were three or four series, made in the late '70s. It's
great escapism - gritty, funny and with interesting stories. I
personally love to see the late '70s London scenery flashing
past during the (many) car chases.

There used to be a very good website dedicated to it but I
couldn't find it (just now). But there are still a few
Professionals websites out there .. have a look!

James
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