UFO BOXED SETS

I have a few gripes about the Carlton UFO boxed sets. Firstly, why are there no proper documentaries on the DVDs? Also, there should be commentarieson ALL the episodes. One feature I like about some films on DVD is called the "pop-up" bubble which contains interesting facts. It was used on music videos in the late 80s/early 90s and is guaranteed to keep the viewer interested without ruining the flow of the video. Any comments on this would be appreciated.

All The Best,

BRIAN


     

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> I have a few gripes about the Carlton UFO boxed sets. Firstly, why are
> there no proper documentaries on the DVDs? Also, there should be
> commentaries on ALL the episodes.

The Carlton UFO DVD boxed sets were widely praised as the "DVD release
of the year", so perhaps your expectations are too high. While other
series were being released with poor quality video and audio and no
extras, UFO was released with jaw-dropping quality, deleted scenes,
a fair amount of extras including commentaries, and deluxe packaging.
Quite impressive for an obscure series from 1970!  

And those commentary tracks don't come for free... while I agree it
would have been nice to have more commentary tracks, you just cannot
justify it most of the time, as the costs of making the commentary
track will likely not be recouped by increased sales.

Marc

Seriously?  When was the last time you saw a TV series DVD with commentaries for ALL the episodes?  Never, would be my guess.  If every episode had a commentary, the price would go WAY up.
 
Jeff

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I have a few gripes about the Carlton UFO boxed sets. Firstly, why arethere no proper documentaries on the DVDs? Also, there should be commentaries on ALL the episodes. One feature I like about some films on DVD is called the "pop-up" bubble which contains interesting facts. It was used on music videos in the late 80s/early 90s and is guaranteed to keep the viewer interested without ruining the flow of the video. Any comments on this would be appreciated.

All The Best,

BRIAN

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Well Jeff...

The Complete Steve Canyon On TV DVDs have commentaries on all but 2  
episodes...and when we go to BluRay down the road ( I am the Producer  
and restorer for The Milton Caniff Estate) there will be  
commentaries on all of them.

On the shows we can't get anyone that is either still alive OR that  
remembers anything OR is willing to participate (the show is from  
1958 so the participants are quite old) I get a fan/expert to do the  
commentary with me. And most participate for free or for very little  
money...so there is no excuse why UFO or any show with limited  
episodes shouldn't have commentaries on EVERY episode. They could  
always go to Marc or Fanderson or the fan community at large and get  
expert commentaries from many sources.

Commentaries are the cheapest and one of the easiest extras to add to  
any DVD set. You plop down with a recorder and microphones and watch  
and chat. Drinking helps loosen the tongues sometimes too ;-)

Bestest,

John Ellis

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> Commentaries are the cheapest and one of the easiest extras to add to
> any DVD set. You plop down with a recorder and microphones and watch
> and chat. Drinking helps loosen the tongues sometimes too ;-)

Well yes, in theory... in practice, I think Carlton paid Ed Bishop
and Gerry Anderson US$1000-ish to do their commentaries.

Marc

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That was also back in the day when they really didn't know to have
moderators to keep the talk going...I remember loong gaps between
comments.

Sorry about the empty post...my finger spazzed out and hit the send
button...

Bestest,

John


On May 18, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Marc Martin wrote:

> > Commentaries are the cheapest and one of the easiest extras to
> add to
> > any DVD set. You plop down with a recorder and microphones and watch
> > and chat. Drinking helps loosen the tongues sometimes too ;-)
>
> Well yes, in theory... in practice, I think Carlton paid Ed Bishop
> and Gerry Anderson US$1000-ish to do their commentaries.
>
> Marc



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> That was also back in the day when they really didn't know to have
> moderators to keep the talk going...I remember loong gaps between
> comments.

Yes, the Ed Bishop commentary is poorly produced. Compare that
to the Sylvia Anderson/Wanda Ventham commentary, which is non-stop
talking! I'm sure there was a lot of coaxing and editing to make
it that way...

Marc

Thank you, John.  So that makes *almost* ONE.  Guess I should have said"almost never, would be my guess".  I do appreciate the info/insight your post provides, though.  Hopefully more complete commentaries will become the rule, rather than the exception, in the future. : )
 
JJeff
 
 
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Well Jeff...

The Complete Steve Canyon On TV DVDs have commentaries on all but 2 
episodes...and when we go to BluRay down the road ( I am the Producer 
and restorer for The Milton Caniff Estate)  there will be 
commentaries on all of them.

On the shows we can't get anyone that is either still alive OR that 
remembers anything OR is willing to participate (the show is from 
1958 so the participants are quite old) I get a fan/expert to do the 
commentary with me. And most participate for free or for very little 
money...so there is no excuse why UFO or any show with limited 
episodes shouldn't have commentaries on EVERY episode. They could 
always go to Marc or Fanderson or the fan community at large and get 
expert commentaries from many sources.

Commentaries are the cheapest and one of the easiest extras to add to 
any DVD set. You plop down with a recorder and microphones and watch 
and chat. Drinking helps loosen the tongues sometimes too ;-)

Bestest,

John Ellis

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Actually Jeff, The Tomorrow People does. With three of the cast on each episode.

Nat




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Seriously? When was the last time you saw a TV series DVD with commentaries for ALL the episodes? Never, would be my guess. If every episode had a commentary, the price would go WAY up.
 
Jeff

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Subject: [SHADO] UFO BOXED SETS
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Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 9:23 AM

 

I have a few gripes about the Carlton UFO boxed sets. Firstly, why are there no proper documentaries on the DVDs? Also, there should be commentaries on ALL the episodes. One feature I like about some films on DVD is called the "pop-up" bubble which contains interesting facts. It was used on music videos in the late 80s/early 90s and is guaranteed to keep the viewer interested without ruining the flow of the video. Any comments on this would be appreciated.

All The Best,

BRIAN

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Fair enough.  That makes ONE.  Almost 2 with the one mentioned earlier.  I KNEW I should have said "almost never" instead, before I sent it.  But being lazy...
 
Jeff

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Actually Jeff, The Tomorrow People does. With three of the cast on each episode.

Nat

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Seriously? When was the last time you saw a TV series DVD with commentariesfor ALL the episodes? Never, would be my guess. If every episode had a commentary, the price would go WAY up.

Jeff

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From: Brian Serridge <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] UFO BOXED SETS
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Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 9:23 AM

I have a few gripes about the Carlton UFO boxed sets. Firstly, why are there no proper documentaries on the DVDs? Also, there should be commentaries on ALL the episodes. One feature I like about some films on DVD is called the "pop-up" bubble which contains interesting facts. It was used on music videos in the late 80s/early 90s and is guaranteed to keep the viewer interested without ruining the flow of the video. Any comments on this would be appreciated.

All The Best,

BRIAN

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There's always a gulf between what we mean to say and what we do say.  

You are forgiven. :-))

Nat




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Fair enough. That makes ONE. Almost 2 with the one mentioned earlier. I KNEW I should have said "almost never" instead, before I sent it. But being lazy...
 
Jeff

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Actually Jeff, The Tomorrow People does. With three of the cast on each episode.

Nat

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From: Jeffrey Nelson <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wed, 19 May, 2010 2:09:48 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO BOXED SETS

Seriously? When was the last time you saw a TV series DVD with commentariesfor ALL the episodes? Never, would be my guess. If every episode had a commentary, the price would go WAY up.

Jeff

--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Brian Serridge <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Brian Serridge <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] UFO BOXED SETS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 9:23 AM

I have a few gripes about the Carlton UFO boxed sets. Firstly, why are there no proper documentaries on the DVDs? Also, there should be commentaries on ALL the episodes. One feature I like about some films on DVD is called the "pop-up" bubble which contains interesting facts. It was used on music videos in the late 80s/early 90s and is guaranteed to keep the viewer interested without ruining the flow of the video. Any comments on this would be appreciated.

All The Best,

BRIAN

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Point taken, Marc.

All The Best,

BRIAN



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> I have a few gripes about the Carlton UFO boxed sets. Firstly, why are
> there no proper documentaries on the DVDs? Also, there should be
> commentaries on ALL the episodes.

The Carlton UFO DVD boxed sets were widely praised as the "DVD release
of the year", so perhaps your expectations are too high. While other
series were being released with poor quality video and audio and no
extras, UFO was released with jaw-dropping quality, deleted scenes,
a fair amount of extras including commentaries, and deluxe packaging.
Quite impressive for an obscure series from 1970!

And those commentary tracks don't come for free... while I agree it
would have been nice to have more commentary tracks, you just cannot
justify it most of the time, as the costs of making the commentary
track will likely not be recouped by increased sales.

Marc




     

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Thanks, Natalie!  Much appreciated, lol.
 
Jeff

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There's always a gulf between what we mean to say and what we do say.

You are forgiven. :-))

Nat

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Fair enough. That makes ONE. Almost 2 with the one mentioned earlier. I KNEW I should have said "almost never" instead, before I sent it. But being lazy...

Jeff

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Actually Jeff, The Tomorrow People does. With three of the cast on each episode.

Nat

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From: Jeffrey Nelson <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wed, 19 May, 2010 2:09:48 AM
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Seriously? When was the last time you saw a TV series DVD with commentariesfor ALL the episodes? Never, would be my guess. If every episode had a commentary, the price would go WAY up.

Jeff

--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Brian Serridge <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Brian Serridge <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] UFO BOXED SETS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 9:23 AM

I have a few gripes about the Carlton UFO boxed sets. Firstly, why are there no proper documentaries on the DVDs? Also, there should be commentaries on ALL the episodes. One feature I like about some films on DVD is called the "pop-up" bubble which contains interesting facts. It was used on music videos in the late 80s/early 90s and is guaranteed to keep the viewer interested without ruining the flow of the video. Any comments on this would be appreciated.

All The Best,

BRIAN

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This may be an unpopular view but I find most commentaries an anti-climax and not very enlightening. I have high hopes of them but too few of them shed much light, usually because the participants remember little about the programme or are reluctant to say anything even mildly critical. As commentaries cater for a broad audience they also often focus on details that are well-known to most fans and while they may be much more informative to the more casual viewer that might be the sort of person who isn't interested enough to listen to them anyway. The commentaries that emerged on the Australian UFO set were among the better ones I've heard, perhaps because there was moderation and some good chemistry between those involved.
 
Interesting you mention The Tomorrow People sets Natalie as these are easily the best commentaries I've heard - better than the episodes dare I say it! This is because the participants (especially Nicholas Young) know their stuff, are very witty but are also prepared to be critical but in an affectionate way. Perhaps on these more obscure shows,which have been less documented than UFO or other well-known series and films,the commentary has far more of a useful role to play.
 
AB




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Date: Wednesday, 19 May, 2010, 1:30


 



Actually Jeff, The Tomorrow People does. With three of the cast on each episode.

Nat

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Sent: Wed, 19 May, 2010 2:09:48 AM
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Seriously? When was the last time you saw a TV series DVD with commentariesfor ALL the episodes? Never, would be my guess. If every episode had a commentary, the price would go WAY up.

Jeff

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From: Brian Serridge <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] UFO BOXED SETS
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Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 9:23 AM

I have a few gripes about the Carlton UFO boxed sets. Firstly, why are there no proper documentaries on the DVDs? Also, there should be commentaries on ALL the episodes. One feature I like about some films on DVD is called the "pop-up" bubble which contains interesting facts. It was used on music videos in the late 80s/early 90s and is guaranteed to keep the viewer interested without ruining the flow of the video. Any comments on this would be appreciated.

All The Best,

BRIAN

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lol Oh I know. I watch the episode and then watch it with the commentaries, he is such a wag.

Nat




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This may be an unpopular view but I find most commentaries an anti-climax and not very enlightening. I have high hopes of them but too few of them shed much light, usually because the participants remember little about the programme or are reluctant to say anything even mildly critical. As commentaries cater for a broad audience they also often focus on details that are well-known to most fans and while they may be much more informative to the more casual viewer that might be the sort of person who isn't interested enough to listen to them anyway. The commentaries that emerged on the Australian UFO set were among the better ones I've heard, perhaps because there was moderation and some good chemistry between those involved.
 
Interesting you mention The Tomorrow People sets Natalie as these are easily the best commentaries I've heard - better than the episodes dare I say it! This is because the participants (especially Nicholas Young) know their stuff, are very witty but are also prepared to be critical but in an affectionate way. Perhaps on these more obscure shows,which have been less documented than UFO or other well-known series and films,the commentary has far more of a useful role to play.
 
AB

From: Natalie Foster <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO BOXED SETS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 19 May, 2010, 1:30

 

Actually Jeff, The Tomorrow People does. With three of the cast on each episode.

Nat

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From: Jeffrey Nelson <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wed, 19 May, 2010 2:09:48 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO BOXED SETS

Seriously? When was the last time you saw a TV series DVD with commentariesfor ALL the episodes? Never, would be my guess. If every episode had a commentary, the price would go WAY up.

Jeff

--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Brian Serridge <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Brian Serridge <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] UFO BOXED SETS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 9:23 AM

I have a few gripes about the Carlton UFO boxed sets. Firstly, why are there no proper documentaries on the DVDs? Also, there should be commentaries on ALL the episodes. One feature I like about some films on DVD is called the "pop-up" bubble which contains interesting facts. It was used on music videos in the late 80s/early 90s and is guaranteed to keep the viewer interested without ruining the flow of the video. Any comments on this would be appreciated.

All The Best,

BRIAN

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Commentaries and extras, coming from being a laserdisc collector, I expect the extras. I enjoy the commentaries that are included. This is my favorite commentary :) From the musical 1776, there is a scene where John Adams is going to visit Thomas Jefferson. This is colonial America, and you see farm animals in the streets of Philadelphia. John Adams walks by a pig....a very famous pig :)  

Also commentaries outlive and preserve the stories behind the movies and such. The laserdisc box sets from T2 and Star Wars had more material then the movie itself.

When walking around the studio, wouldn't it be nice if they said, take a look at this, this was used in a James Bond film or such in a commentary??

Bruce
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This may be an unpopular view but I find most commentaries an anti-climaxand not very enlightening. I have high hopes of them but too few of them shed much light, usually because the participants remember little about the programme or are reluctant to say anything even mildly critical. As commentaries cater for a broad audience they also often focus on details that are well-known to most fans and while they may be much more informative to the more casual viewer that might be the sort of person who isn't interested enough to listen to them anyway. The commentaries that emerged on the Australian UFO set were among the better ones I've heard, perhaps because there was moderation and some good chemistry between those involved.
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Interesting you mention The Tomorrow People sets Natalie as these are easily the best commentaries I've heard - better than the episodes dare I say it! This is because the participants (especially Nicholas Young) know theirstuff, are very witty but are also prepared to be critical but in an affectionate way. Perhaps on these more obscure shows,which have been less documented than UFO or other well-known series and films,the commentary has far more of a useful role to play.
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AB

From: Natalie Foster <[hidden email]>
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To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 19 May, 2010, 1:30

  

Actually Jeff, The Tomorrow People does. With three of the cast on each episode.

Nat

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From: Jeffrey Nelson <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wed, 19 May, 2010 2:09:48 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO BOXED SETS

Seriously? When was the last time you saw a TV series DVD with commentaries for ALL the episodes? Never, would be my guess. If every episode had a commentary, the price would go WAY up.

Jeff

--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Brian Serridge <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Brian Serridge <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] UFO BOXED SETS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 9:23 AM

I have a few gripes about the Carlton UFO boxed sets. Firstly, why are there no proper documentaries on the DVDs? Also, there should be commentarieson ALL the episodes. One feature I like about some films on DVD is called the "pop-up" bubble which contains interesting facts. It was used on music videos in the late 80s/early 90s and is guaranteed to keep the viewer interested without ruining the flow of the video. Any comments on this would be appreciated.

All The Best,

BRIAN

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