UFO Cartoon No.18

"Tania Woodbury" wrote:
> Hi folks,
> Just watched "Timeslip" and found it just "ok". I'm not really into the
> physics of it all, but Straker clamed the only things frozen were things in
> motion at the time of the "event" - hence the smoke from the workman's
> cigarette and the chair in midair. I actually prefer the episodes with a bit
> more "action". I love the SHADO machines, and UFO isn't UFO to me without at
> least an Interceptor, Skydiver or Mobile!

Yes - at its best, UFO is a tight drama with action as well as
suspense. TIMELASH is rather .. slack, frankly.

Bruce Sherman wrote:
> Edward Fox, british actor who was in some WW2 war movies, One
> comes to mind, A Bridge too Far.
>

Day Of The Jackal is probably his best-known role, I suspect.

when Lake and Straker get 'beamed' in the car by the aliens....why??

Bruce
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From: "James Gibbon" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO Episode Discussions -- TIMELASH


> "Tania Woodbury" wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > Just watched "Timeslip" and found it just "ok". I'm not really into the
> > physics of it all, but Straker clamed the only things frozen were things
in
> > motion at the time of the "event" - hence the smoke from the workman's
> > cigarette and the chair in midair. I actually prefer the episodes with a
bit
> > more "action". I love the SHADO machines, and UFO isn't UFO to me
without at

is that the WW2 movie where the Germans plot to kill Churchill? I recently
watched A Bridge too Far, so that stuck out in my mind.

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Gibbon" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO Episode Discussions -- TIMELASH

Sorry about the 3 no posts, the computer is acting Weird again!

Edward Fox played the Jackal in semi true movie Day of the Jackal(1973) not
to be confused with the terrible remake starring Bruce Willis of few years ago.
He is one of those understated British actors. Excellant actor, excellant
film.

To get back on topic Timelash is one terrific episode. You get to see a lot
of the studio in this and places not seen before of the SHADO HQ. I also have
to admit I have a weakness for sci-fi stories that have something to do with
time, or time travel or changing time or stopping time.

As to the gaff in day not changing to night when Straker destroys the time
device in the Control room. It could have been that so much time had pasted
that it was again day outside the studio and so the only thing that needs to be
changed is the clocks needs to be reset <g>. Imagine trying to explain to the
actors and tech not part of SHADO how they lost a day at work?

James K.


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"Bruce Sherman" wrote:
> is that the WW2 movie where the Germans plot to kill Churchill? I
> recently watched A Bridge too Far, so that stuck out in my mind.
>
No, that's the excellent 'The Eagle Has Landed', with Sir Michael
Caine.

----- Original Message -----
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To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO Episode Discussions -- TIMELASH




> As to the gaff in day not changing to night when Straker destroys the time
device in the Control room. It could have been that so much time had pasted
>

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Exactly!.... Time was "pasted" at daytime, thus that's where it resumed!

I recieved my Japan re-record 2 CD set today, I have to say I was very pleasantly suprised. It is really nicely packaged [along the lines
of the Japanese LD] and more suprisingly it sounds good. It has been recorded to a very high standard indeed - the drum sound
is particulary good were it supposed to be the predominate instrument [had UFO been made in 2003 it gives an impression of how it
would have maybe sounded using todays technology] the playing is generally of a excellant standard and it has been sympathatically
mixed. In my opinion disc one is better than disc two.

It has obviously been transcribed directly from the episodes themselves - there are a few cheesy moments when the transcription
has'nt quite worked. But the instrumentation used seems reflect those used on the original. I can hear the characteristic double bass
and it includes horns and strings and most importantly the Hammond organ - I'm guessing that this would have not been particulary
cheap to produce, and for I would guess would be a limited return.

I don't quite understand why the Thunderbirds March is the second track on disc one ? there is a complete absence of recording and
publishing information although, it appears to be a officially licensed through Carlton. There nothing I can see that out right states this
is a rerecord - and some I sure will buy it thinking they are getting the "proper" soundtrack.

It is strange one, I would'nt take it over the official soundtrack recordings - but it a very nice companion indeed.

humm, no body answered me yet. Maybe I didnt explain myself too
good. When Col Lake picks up Straker from the airport and drives
back to shado HQ, while they are eluding the UFO, they stop, and the
film image goes inverse, supposedly by the UFO, why does the UFO do
this??

Bruce

> humm, no body answered me yet. Maybe I didnt explain myself too
> good. When Col Lake picks up Straker from the airport and drives
> back to shado HQ, while they are eluding the UFO, they stop, and the
> film image goes inverse, supposedly by the UFO, why does the UFO do
> this??

I'm not sure that anyone knows the answer to this question! I was never
too sure about what was going on in this scene. And the script isn't
very helpful either:


56 INT/EXT. CAR. NIGHT. 22 Secs

AS THE CAR BURSTS FROM THE TUNNEL THE NOISE
OF THE UFO SUDDENLY HITS LIKE A THUNDERCLAP
AND THERE IS A GREEN FLASH WHICH MOMENTARILY
MAKES THE WHOLE VEHICLE GLOW.

STRAKER SPINS THE WHEEL AND BURSTS THROUGH
A HEDGE INTO A FIELD.
HE STOPS THE CAR.
HE SPEAKS TO LAKE WITHOUT MOVING HIS HEAD.

STRAKER
Freeze.

HE LOLLS BACK IN HIS SEAT.
LAKE DOES THE SAME.

THE LUMINOUS RADIANCE OF THE UFO BATHES
THE CAR AND ITS SURROUNDINGS FOR A BEAT AND THE
SOUND WASHES OVER IT.
THEN SUDDENLY IT IS GONE.
STRAKER WAITS A MOMENT THEN OPENS HIS DOOR.

CUT TO:

57 EXT. SKY. NIGHT. (VE) 4 Secs

STRAKER'S P.O.V.
THE UFO IS A WHITE SPECK IN THE SKY.

CUT TO:

58 INT/EXT. CAR. NIGHT. 11 Sec

LAKE
What happened ?

STRAKER
Near miss.

HE STARTS THE CAR, GUNS THE ENGINE, MOVES IT
OUT TOWARDS THE ROAD.

I just got the 2nd part of the UFO DVD set this week and watched
Timelash twice yesterday, once with and once without commentary.
My memory of the episode just doesn't hold up to recent viewing.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> wrote:
It's interesting that Straker does move his head while they are both
in the beam, so he didn't freeze very well (I also presume they both
breathed and had a pumping heart at this time).
Also, I wonder why he didn't say 'freeze' the first time they pulled
off the road and the UFO flew by.

A few more nitpicks:

The woman, whose bust is being admired by a Director or whatever,
twitches the corner of her mouth when the camera view switches to
show what the "director" is looking at. I guess they didn't have
time to reshoot that.

And, when Straker gets his 2nd shot, to keep going faster, I wonder
why Lake doesn't seem to show any effects, even though she was the
one to show the first effects earlier. Of course, maybe the
explanation could be that Straker has been more active than Lake,
but...

I also hated all the makeup they put on Straker. That "bruise" sure
went well with his eyeliner.

Ah, well. Timelash is one of the UFO episodes that stuck with me
the most from the 70s. Now, the thing that keeps me watching the
most is wondering how Lake stays in her blouse.

so no one really knows why exactly. so lets make some guesses

1) Aliens use it like a x ray to search for them, but miss
2) aliens use the beam to make them unaffected when they enter the film
studio.
3) They try and freeze them in a moment in time, just like the rest of Shado
personel.
4) Someone who was editing the film, used a positive, instead of a negative,
GA liked the effect, and left it in :)


#1 is the most likely reason.

Bruce

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: UFO Episode Discussions -- TIMELASH


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I never over analyzed it, I just always assumed that that effect was
when the aliens applied the time freeze to the rest of the world, and oh,
well! if the time of day was different.
Frankly, that night time scene didn't look too night time to me anyway,
since they seemed to have shot it during the day and maybe darked the
exposure a little bit to give the impression of nighttime.... an effect I've
never found too convincing over the years I've seen it applied to various TV
shows.

Dave H.

Possibly for the same reason that a Dalek rises out of the water in an episode of Doctor Who (The Dalek Invasion of Earth) - who cares about logic, it's a good moment?

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:> humm, no body answered me yet. Maybe I didnt explain myself too
> good. When Col Lake picks up Straker from the airport and drives
> back to shado HQ, while they are eluding the UFO, they stop, and the
> film image goes inverse, supposedly by the UFO, why does the UFO do
> this??




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