UFO Theme

--- In SHADO@y..., "Dan Box" <mr-natural@b...> wrote:
> My sentiments exactly, Marc :-)
> The problem with a stereo remix is that personal preferences of the
person
> doing the remixing can come through, instead of sticking religiously
to the
> original sound of the track.
>
> Dan.


RIGHT AGAIN!!
was http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >

I also have a full time job and do my [consulative] record work in my
spare time. Sometime advisory capicity or more hands on role.

This is no defence for getting it wrong !!!

The option I'm suggesting may well be a lot LESS time consuming, so I
do get it !!!!!!!

Marty..........








--- In SHADO@y..., "Anthony D" <atd1999@n...> wrote:
> Marty:
>
> I'm not sure you get it -- the people working on this have full time
jobs
> using equipment as available. They are not spending day and night
doing this.
>
> Let's wait until the CDs release -- you don't like 'em, you no buy
'em. Get they
> > will come up with.
> >
> > Marty...........

>Firstly, it never to late as long as that hav'nt sent the DAT's to the
>production house. There would be very little extra work, if any.

I think the main bulk of the work would be paring down 6+ hours
of raw recordings into something that will fit onto a 2 CD set.
Deciding what stays and what goes would be difficult (well,
for me it would be).

However, if anyone wants to contact Fanderson about this, here is
a link to Fanderson's original announcement of the UFO soundtrack
CD -- from 15 months ago!

http://ufoseries.com/cd.html

Marc

>My sentiments exactly, Marc :-)
>The problem with a stereo remix is that personal preferences of the person
>doing the remixing can come through, instead of sticking religiously to the
>original sound of the track.

The strange thing is, I would expect that Fanderson would be the ones
would have the attitude of being religious about it, and sticking to
the original sound. Instead, what we're finding is that some of the
fans are actually being more "purist" about it than they are!

It also seems a bit ironic that a group that seems so technologically
behind in some respects (see our previous discussion about online
transactions) would be so advanced in others (going to all the effort
and expense to digitally remaster the original session tapes when
they could have simply released the existing mono mixes at a fraction
of the cost and effort)

Marc

This seems to be devolving into an "Ole / Space:1999 DVD" obssession
discussion.

----- Original Message -----
From: "hopkirkmarty" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 12:34 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO Theme Petition

--- In SHADO@y..., Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> >My sentiments exactly, Marc :-)
> >The problem with a stereo remix is that personal preferences of the
person
> >doing the remixing can come through, instead of sticking
religiously to the
> >original sound of the track.
>
> The strange thing is, I would expect that Fanderson would be the
ones
> would have the attitude of being religious about it, and sticking to
> the original sound. Instead, what we're finding is that some of the
> fans are actually being more "purist" about it than they are!
>
> It also seems a bit ironic that a group that seems so
technologically
> behind in some respects (see our previous discussion about online
> transactions) would be so advanced in others (going to all the
effort
> and expense to digitally remaster the original session tapes when
> they could have simply released the existing mono mixes at a
fraction
> of the cost and effort)
>
> Marc


Marc - I as some one who has a little bit of a inside track of the
re-issue business, thats what I can't understand.

You have to remember you are dealing with part of a fine artists life
here, why change it? Especially when ther is no need to. Barry Gray
was a very talented man, probably more talented than those producing
the resissue.


Marty......

Hey -- here's an idea -- why not donate your time to the CD remastering?
Contact Fanderson today.

----- Original Message -----
From: "hopkirkmarty" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 12:55 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO Theme


<snip>

Anthony - I sense your reply is a little mischievous, but if they did
come to me I would certainly point them in the right direction and
give what assistance I could.

Marty.......




--- In SHADO@y..., "Anthony D" <atd1999@n...> wrote:
> Hey -- here's an idea -- why not donate your time to the CD
remastering? life
> > here, why change it? Especially when ther is no need to. Barry
Gray
> > was a very talented man, probably more talented than those
producing
> > the resissue.
> >
> >
> > Marty......

Marty:

As Marc can attest, we went through a similar thing over on the Space:1999
lists concerning the (then) upcoming DVD release. One person went on and on
about the DVDs -- in the end to (basically) no avail.

I wouldn't wait for Fanderson to come hat-in-hand begging for your
assistance -- if you feel so strongly about this, I would contact them ASAP
and let them know and offer to help.

Just my .02

Anthony
----- Original Message -----
From: "hopkirkmarty" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 1:08 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO Theme


> Anthony - I sense your reply is a little mischievous, but if they did
> come to me I would certainly point them in the right direction and
> give what assistance I could.
>
> Marty.......
>

>As Marc can attest, we went through a similar thing over on the Space:1999
>lists concerning the (then) upcoming DVD release. One person went on and on
>about the DVDs -- in the end to (basically) no avail.
>
>I wouldn't wait for Fanderson to come hat-in-hand begging for your
>assistance -- if you feel so strongly about this, I would contact them ASAP
>and let them know and offer to help.

Yes, I agree -- complaining on a online discussion group usually
produces zero results. Contacting those involved however *may* get
you somewhere. For example, for the UFO DVD releases, I don't think
any complaints or suggestions made on this discussion group made any
difference whatsoever to the final product. However, some private
e-mail exchanges between myself and A&E's consultant did result in
new/exclusive materials which will appear on A&E's UFO DVD set 2.
Heck, it even led to additional commentary tracks being produced for
their SPACE:1999 DVDs -- which is something I wasn't even attempting!

Marc

Marty,
there is no question that Barry Grey was an outstanding talent. But
the people doing it think they are outstanding talents also. It's a ego
thing. They want to put their own stamp on it.

James K.


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--- In SHADO@y..., "Anthony D" <atd1999@n...> wrote:

> I wouldn't wait for Fanderson to come hat-in-hand begging for your
> assistance -- if you feel so strongly about this, I would contact
them ASAP
> and let them know and offer to help.


And to be honest...do they really NEED any help? Just a few years ago
I doubt anyone would have thought these Anderson scores would ever
see a proper release of any kind. The CD set hasn't even come out yet
and already its being criticised.And yet I have no doubt it will be
as superb as anyone could make it

I thought their Space 1999 CDs were fantastic. The problem with
remixes is - as others have noted - that the results (what
instruments are emphasised in the mix,which ones aren't so prominent
etc)is largely down to those who do the mixing. In the case of Derek
Wadsworths score, he certainly had a hand (though he wasn't at all
the sessions)because he had previously stated he *wanted* to remix
the masters if he ever got his hands on them!

My only disappointment with the Y2 CD (and a slight one at that)is
that the main action cue from 'Space Warp' had its impact slightly
lessened by the drums being somewhat mixed 'down' and the synth
effects being somewhat mixed 'up'. This made the track slightly less
punchy for me than the mono version on Wadsworths promotional disc.
Other than that I thought remixing the scores into stereo was a great
idea and the whole package came out superbly.

I wouldn't have been at all disappointed if these CDs came out
in 'mono' form at all and if in the future they reissued the scores
in this format I'd certainly buy them again! But these issues don't
just apply to Fanderson's CDs. I bought a limited edition copy of
Lalo Scifrins ENTER THE DRAGON score through Film Score Monthly and
it was remixed from the original multi track masters. It didn't sound
like the original album (or for that matter like the scores as heard
in the film)but still the overall effect was great!Its the nature of
the beast surely?

So why don't we all just look forward to the UFO scores being made
available for the first time in what I am sure will be the best
presentation that we have ever heard of them? I know I will, and I am
confident that I won't be disappointed!

Simon