UFO and iPods/iPhone

Hi All :)

I have been doing a fair amount of travelling lately, and I decided to put all the UFO episodes on my iPod and iPhone to help pass the travelling time.

It's very strange, with the UK volume #1 and #2 releases, "Identified", "E.S.P.", "The Responsibility Seat" and "Kill Straker!" are NOT copy/RIP protected, whilst all the other episodes are...

I also have the US megaset and the Australian Umbrella sets, and the restrictions are the same.

I am not sure what the legal position is (but I can guess), but MY view is that I have legitimately bought ALL these sets and all I am doing is changing my the medium in which I am watching the shows.

I am not stating them here, but there are a number of DVD to iPod(MP4) converters about. Be careful though, as some freebie versions have Malware attached (according to Kaspersky AV)...

So, not I have all 26 episodes on my iPod and my favorites on my iPod, and I must say, they look and sound amazing!

Hope this is of interest.

Best to all :)

Griff

Hi All :)

I meant of course... So, now I have all 26 episodes on my iPod and my favorites on my iPhone (to save room)...

Best to all :)

Griff

--- In [hidden email], "Griff Wason" <griff@...> wrote:

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Hi Rob,

No, I would never do that. I am no better or worse than others, but I do believe in copyright (whatever it means nowadays). I get enough of my artwork"stolen" from the web and elsewhere as it is. Even digital signatures aren't any real help.

But, technically it seems I am in breach of DVD licencing - copying the DVDto my iPod "technically" breaks the law, which is stupid considering I canput a DVD in my player/laptop/Xbox and watch it on any number of screens, with maybe many other people there watching - who haven't paid for the media.

But, putting the same movies/TV shows (which I have already paid for many times over) on my iPod/player, plugging it into any number of screens and with the same people watching is illegal...

But, to be fair, unscrupulousness people could take advantage of this situation. There are SO MANY situations where the bad still have it over the good, and I guess we all suffer with higher prices, and even non-availability as a consequence (companies will not bother launching products if this situation becomes too bad and is never resolved).

I guess the rules haven't caught up with the technology.

I will hold my head up high though, even if technically I am in breach of the rules. I have (in some cases) bought the same film/s on VCR, DVD, Blueray and web mediums, and yet despite this, transferring the medium for which I have bought something means I have committed a criminal offence...

In my opinion, (in this case) the law is an ass... or rather the people that control, write and make the laws are years behind the times, do not understand the technologies, demographics, usage models and even the audience (content)...

Phew... I feel a bit better now. Think I'll go and watch some UFO. Now, TV,Computer, iPod, iPhone, Zen, Archos... that is the question...

Have a great day, folks!

Griff



--- In [hidden email], "Hemmings, R.K." <rkh@...> wrote:
>
> Nice one, Griff.
> I wouldn't worry about changing storage format, just don't
> do anything silly like sharing them (eg uploading to a website),
> although I'm sure that's not something you were considering,
> of course! :o)
> Best,
> --
> Rob

Some DVD's now come with a additional CD with a file on for portable media players. To convert a file from DVD quality to the size for a portable media player can take a awful long time, even if letting the Zune software convert it.

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Griff Wason
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:13 AM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO and iPods/iPhone





Hi Rob,

No, I would never do that. I am no better or worse than others, but I do believe in copyright (whatever it means nowadays). I get enough of my artwork "stolen" from the web and elsewhere as it is. Even digital signatures aren't any real help.

But, technically it seems I am in breach of DVD licencing - copying the DVD to my iPod "technically" breaks the law, which is stupid considering I can put a DVD in my player/laptop/Xbox and watch it on any number of screens, with maybe many other people there watching - who haven't paid for the media.

But, putting the same movies/TV shows (which I have already paid for many times over) on my iPod/player, plugging it into any number of screens and with the same people watching is illegal...

But, to be fair, unscrupulousness people could take advantage of this situation. There are SO MANY situations where the bad still have it over the good, and I guess we all suffer with higher prices, and even non-availability as a consequence (companies will not bother launching products if this situation becomes too bad and is never resolved).

I guess the rules haven't caught up with the technology.

I will hold my head up high though, even if technically I am in breach of the rules. I have (in some cases) bought the same film/s on VCR, DVD, Blueray and web mediums, and yet despite this, transferring the medium for which I have bought something means I have committed a criminal offence...

In my opinion, (in this case) the law is an ass... or rather the people that control, write and make the laws are years behind the times, do not understand the technologies, demographics, usage models and even the audience (content)...

Phew... I feel a bit better now. Think I'll go and watch some UFO. Now, TV, Computer, iPod, iPhone, Zen, Archos... that is the question...

Have a great day, folks!

Griff

--- In [hidden email], "Hemmings, R.K." <rkh@...> wrote:
>
> Nice one, Griff.
> I wouldn't worry about changing storage format, just don't
> do anything silly like sharing them (eg uploading to a website),
> although I'm sure that's not something you were considering,
> of course! :o)
> Best,
> --
> Rob





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Hi, you would only be in breach of the "COPYWRITE" law if you;
charge people to see the video.
more then 100+ see the program.
you copy it + sell it.

You can download it for your own use and not be penalized or pay rolities.? but again only for your own use.
Dee

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Sherman <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:57 pm
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: UFO and iPods/iPhone








Some DVD's now come with a additional CD with a file on for portable media players. To convert a file from DVD quality to the size for a portable media player can take a awful long time, even if letting the Zune software convert it.

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Griff Wason
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:13 AM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO and iPods/iPhone

Hi Rob,

No, I would never do that. I am no better or worse than others, but I do believe in copyright (whatever it means nowadays). I get enough of my artwork "stolen" from the web and elsewhere as it is. Even digital signatures aren't any real help.

But, technically it seems I am in breach of DVD licencing - copying the DVD to my iPod "technically" breaks the law, which is stupid considering I can put a DVD in my player/laptop/Xbox and watch it on any number of screens, with maybe many other people there watching - who haven't paid for the media.

But, putting the same movies/TV shows (which I have already paid for many times over) on my iPod/player, plugging it into any number of screens and with the same people watching is illegal...

But, to be fair, unscrupulousness people could take advantage of this situation. There are SO MANY situations where the bad still have it over the good, and I guess we all suffer with higher prices, and even non-availability as a consequence (companies will not bother launching products if this situation becomes too bad and is never resolved).

I guess the rules haven't caught up with the technology.

I will hold my head up high though, even if technically I am in breach of the rules. I have (in some cases) bought the same film/s on VCR, DVD, Blueray and web mediums, and yet despite this, transferring the medium for which I have bought something means I have committed a criminal offence...

In my opinion, (in this case) the law is an ass... or rather the people that control, write and make the laws are years behind the times, do not understand the technologies, demographics, usage models and even the audience (content)...

Phew... I feel a bit better now. Think I'll go and watch some UFO. Now, TV, Computer, iPod, iPhone, Zen, Archos... that is the question...

Have a great day, folks!

Griff

--- In [hidden email], "Hemmings, R.K." <rkh@...> wrote:
>
> Nice one, Griff.
> I wouldn't worry about changing storage format, just don't
> do anything silly like sharing them (eg uploading to a website),
> although I'm sure that's not something you were considering,
> of course! :o)
> Best,
> --
> Rob

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Dee,

Thanks. Copyright and License agreements can and do accomplish different things. E.g. When you 'buy' Microsoft and most other vendors software, you don't actually buy it at all. You are actually purchasing a license to use it(under very strict legal constraints), that Microsoft (and many other vendors) can revoke at any time. You may own the CD/DVD and the packaging, but you do not own in any way the software contained therein, or the right to use it, or even use it in a way 'they' do not like or agree with... but that's all another story.

Well, the Carlton licensed version clearly states:

Any unauthorized use including but not limited to COPYING, EDITING, lending, exchanging, renting, hiring exhibiting, public performance, radio or television broadcasting, or ANY other diffusion or otherwise dealing with this DVD OR ANY PART is strictly prohibited.

Pretty categorical I'd say...

But, I'm still happily watching it on my iPod... :)

Griff

--- In [hidden email], wonnut@... wrote:
>
> Hi, you would only be in breach of the "COPYWRITE" law if you;
> charge people to see the video.
> more then 100+ see the program.
> you copy it + sell it.
>
> You can download it for your own use and not be penalized or pay rolities.? but again only for your own use.
> Dee

On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:57:25 -0400
"Bruce Sherman" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Some DVD's now come with a additional CD with a file on for portable
> media players. To convert a file from DVD quality to the size for a
> portable media player can take a awful long time, even if letting the
> Zune software convert it.
>

I often do this for my Nokia 800 portable Internet tablet / media
player, using Linux tools. It can take a long time, but I usually
leave it running with a batch of videos overnight.

James