UFO series 2?

Hi all.
I'm new to the group, so greetings from Australia.
I'm doing a little CGI for my own fun and I know there was an attempt to put the show back into production. I also know someone on this group was looking at doing a similar fan production.
I was wondering if the people involved in the fan production would be interested in my help, or if on the other hand there was anything from their production I could have a look at for my own model development.
Pagrin :-)

On the topic of fan production - would be great if there were some of the
same quality as the Star Trek fan movies that are around.



From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim
Vinton
Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2009 4:31 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [SHADO] UFO series 2?



Hi all.
I'm new to the group, so greetings from Australia.
I'm doing a little CGI for my own fun and I know there was an attempt to put
the show back into production. I also know someone on this group was looking
at doing a similar fan production.
I was wondering if the people involved in the fan production would be
interested in my help, or if on the other hand there was anything from their
production I could have a look at for my own model development.
Pagrin :-)





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I don't see any reason why there shouldn't be, these days all the model shots can be done on a home computer.
It's really getting a few people together who are willing to wear the outfits and convert their garden shed, into a film set.

It is also possible to do the people in CGI, but it takes a good level of animator to get it right, and the lip sink can be a real pain. but at least then all you need are voice talent.

Do people here think this sounds like a good idea?

--- In [hidden email], "David Richards" <dcr_au@...> wrote:
>
> On the topic of fan production - would be great if there were some of the
> same quality as the Star Trek fan movies that are around.

I'd love to be a part of it. but I don't know anybody in Adelaide who would
be capable of doing it.



If anyone has any contacts with the South Australian Film Corporation (or
your local equivalent) - we could try and get together the necessary skilled
people. In these days - the whole lot needn't be done in the same place.



For instance - Adelaide could do all the SHADO control and/or Moonbase
interior scenes - and other places could do other locations. Modelwork and
CGI could be split over different sites.



The only thing is gathering the skilled production people. If that could be
done - I'd love to have some role, even if it's only voicework.



Of course, we'd need to get clearances from the relevant copyright holders.
but the Star Trek people were able to do it, so no reason we can't.



Anyway - if anyone gets anything going.. will be great to see.



From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim
Vinton
Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2009 6:07 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO series 2?



I don't see any reason why there shouldn't be, these days all the model
shots can be done on a home computer.
It's really getting a few people together who are willing to wear the
outfits and convert their garden shed, into a film set.

It is also possible to do the people in CGI, but it takes a good level of
animator to get it right, and the lip sink can be a real pain. but at least
then all you need are voice talent.

Do people here think this sounds like a good idea?

--- In [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> , "David
Richards" <dcr_au@...> wrote:
>
> On the topic of fan production - would be great if there were some of the
> same quality as the Star Trek fan movies that are around.





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--- In [hidden email], "Jim Vinton" <pagrin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
> I'm new to the group, so greetings from Australia.
> I'm doing a little CGI for my own fun and I know there was an attempt to put the show back into production. I also know someone on this group was looking at doing a similar fan production.
> I was wondering if the people involved in the fan production would be interested in my help, or if on the other hand there was anything from their production I could have a look at for my own model development.
> Pagrin :-)
>

I sent some Data before on the subject... That was what I doing as well... Re-Cutting and or Re-Editing... Different Parts & Pieces of UFO Footage from the Series to make up some New Episodes...

Have a Myspace Page at www.myspace.com/peejaysmith4665

Was also trying to write out some new Episodes with my Blogs et cetera... Only do not have it all done just yet...

Pat!!!



 

Actually you don't need that much permission really.
Copyright is only breached if you make money out of the project. Some people also feel it is unwise to use footage directly lifted from a show as well, but again if no money is involved, you can't really be sued.
The reason the Paramount and George Lucas allow so many fan films to be made, is because it keep interest up in their product. You are in effect making free advertising for them.
However if you start selling your product, regardless of price that's when you need legal written permission.

However to get a fan flick put together, you do need a lot of patience, a good plan and a clear chain of command. The last one is the most important.

If all the people who made UFO sat down to do it again, except the directors, you'd end up without a show. There needs to be a single person who has the power to say, yes or no to any and all aspects of a film. I've seen whathappens when you don't have one. Its not pretty.


So with the assumption that at least some of us are interested, and with the mediators permission. I'll create a folder in the files section for people to post their applications. That way we don't bother the rest of the group with our project. I'll a document in the folder, which will be our introduction and application page.
Once we have a better idea of our resources, we can work out a plan of production.
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> Of course, we'd need to get clearances from the relevant copyright holders.
> but the Star Trek people were able to do it, so no reason we can't.
>

Hi, All,

Friday, March 27, 2009, 2:25:46 AM, Jim wrote:

J> Actually you don't need that much permission really.
J> Copyright is only breached if you make money out of the
J> project.

This is entirely untrue. Just FYI.

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Hi, although I am injured I might be able to help too. I was a producer and director of my own TV show (2 1/2 yrs) till my physical problem stopped me.
Dee



In a message dated 03/25/09 11:36:22 Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes:
I'd love to be a part of it. but I don't know anybody in Adelaide who would
be capable of doing it.

If anyone has any contacts with the South Australian Film Corporation (or
your local equivalent) - we could try and get together the necessary skilled
people. In these days - the whole lot needn't be done in the same place.

For instance - Adelaide could do all the SHADO control and/or Moonbase
interior scenes - and other places could do other locations. Modelwork and
CGI could be split over different sites.

The only thing is gathering the skilled production people. If that could be
done - I'd love to have some role, even if it's only voicework.

Of course, we'd need to get clearances from the relevant copyright holders.
but the Star Trek people were able to do it, so no reason we can't.

Anyway - if anyone gets anything going.. will be great to see.

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim
Vinton
Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2009 6:07 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO series 2?

I don't see any reason why there shouldn't be, these days all the model
shots can be done on a home computer.
It's really getting a few people together who are willing to wear the
outfits and convert their garden shed, into a film set.

It is also possible to do the people in CGI, but it takes a good level of
animator to get it right, and the lip sink can be a real pain. but at least
then all you need are voice talent.

Do people here think this sounds like a good idea?

--- In [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> , "David
Richards" <dcr_au@...> wrote:
>
> On the topic of fan production - would be great if there were some of the
> same quality as the Star Trek fan movies that are around.

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I'm forwarding this which was sent to me. Although there is another postingby which hasn't appeared, so maybe Yahoo is playing up a bit. The message is from Claudia Monteiro.

Hi all

That's a great and, as said, there is no copy if you make it just for fun. Nevertheless,
you should try to get Anderson' "ok" to the project, maybe he could get
involved in some way...

I would love to help you with the try. I'm a journalist and have wrote books and a
couple of tv movies. Should you be interested, just tell me. Maybe we coulddo the first
true global fan film...

Bye all

Well it seems we have some people with the right talents to at least get started.
I would think the first thing we are going to need is a good story.
Personally I suspect we are better off trying to do the whole think CGI, and use the group to get voice talent from everywhere. Because I doubt there is enough of a fan base in any one location to make filming live action possible.

So we need to work out the basic setting for our story and then start working toward a shooting script.

I feel we need to do something like the pilot in that we want to find a story which shows off each of the aspects of Shado, IE Moonbase, Skydiver, themobiles, shadow control, SID etc. I also feel we should update stuff. Rather than make everything exactly like it was, I would like to know what Shado has 30+ years down the track. How are they putting the International Space Station to use? How have the mobiles been improved? Just how fast and slick are the Interceptors now? That kinda of thing.

I also think Claudia is right we should send a message to the Andersons, toexplain ourselves, and see if we can get an official sanction.
Pagrin :-)


--- In [hidden email], "Jim Vinton" <pagrin@...> wrote:

Hi;
If you do contact the Anderson's, make sure you have their permission in writing in case there copyright issues come up. You also need to know who else may have a problem with it. There maybe more then one studio involved with copyright issues. Always dot your "I's" and cross your "T's". Anyone who even loans there talent, mostly voice, face any body part (s) should sign a permission waver. Any published music is always copyrighted but there are some music that is not. You can makeup your own music / score but it must be original by you or who ever thought it up.
If you do location shots. try not to focus on an object too long. If you capture a person (or their likeness) you must have them sign a waver to use their likeness in your production shot or take them out in post.
Dee



In a message dated 03/29/09 01:05:29 Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes:
Well it seems we have some people with the right talents to at least get started.
I would think the first thing we are going to need is a good story.
Personally I suspect we are better off trying to do the whole think CGI, and use the group to get voice talent from everywhere. Because I doubt there is enough of a fan base in any one location to make filming live action possible.

So we need to work out the basic setting for our story and then start working toward a shooting script.

I feel we need to do something like the pilot in that we want to find a story which shows off each of the aspects of Shado, IE Moonbase, Skydiver, the mobiles, shadow control, SID etc. I also feel we should update stuff. Rather than make everything exactly like it was, I would like to know what Shado has 30+ years down the track. How are they putting the International Space Station to use? How have the mobiles been improved? Just how fast and slick are the Interceptors now? That kinda of thing.

I also think Claudia is right we should send a message to the Andersons, to explain ourselves, and see if we can get an official sanction.
Pagrin :-)

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--- In [hidden email], "Jim Vinton" <pagrin@...> wrote:
>
> Well it seems we have some people with the right talents to at least
get started.
(...) How are they putting the International Space Station to use? How
have the mobiles been improved? Just how fast and slick are the
Interceptors now? That kinda of thing.
(...)
> Pagrin :-)

Oh I can just see it now... a black module, shaped like a saucer, that
always remains in the shadow part of the station... It would need to
have a nuclear reactor for power which would raise the uproar of
everyone if it was known, so the whole thing must remain a secret !
[:)]




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> If you do contact the Anderson's, make sure you have their permission in
> writing in case there copyright issues come up.

The Anderson's are not the right people to contact -- they have no rights
to the series. ITV Global Entertainment owns UFO, and they are the only
people who would need to approve such a venture.

Marc

By the way:
I remember reading that the ability to transport matter from one point to another is possible but the technology needs to catch up. Also, the same thing with "warp speed". The mathematical formula is there but the power and tech is not. I had in the mid 80's asked a scientist if it was possible and he told me "NO WAY". I read an atricle back last year (2008/07) that said it can be possible with the right power. Also, the same with time travel. So, some of these principles may be useful.

I would suggest to see the last show that was aired so to get an idea of were to go from there. Did we win the fight? Did they give up for some reason?
It kind of leave you with questions, Yea, just like with captain Scarlet, if anyone remebers that show.



In a message dated 03/29/09 11:25:27 Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes:

--- In [hidden email], "Jim Vinton" <pagrin@...> wrote:
>
> Well it seems we have some people with the right talents to at least
get started.
(...) How are they putting the International Space Station to use? How
have the mobiles been improved? Just how fast and slick are the
Interceptors now? That kinda of thing.
(...)
> Pagrin :-)

Oh I can just see it now... a black module, shaped like a saucer, that
always remains in the shadow part of the station... It would need to
have a nuclear reactor for power which would raise the uproar of
everyone if it was known, so the whole thing must remain a secret !
[:)]

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Sorry, I had another thought. How about talking with these guys (http://www.creationent.com/)
They do the conventions for SciFi shows. They started here in Queens NY and moved to California and got big there.
Just a thought...



In a message dated 03/29/09 01:05:29 Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes:
Well it seems we have some people with the right talents to at least get started.
I would think the first thing we are going to need is a good story.
Personally I suspect we are better off trying to do the whole think CGI, and use the group to get voice talent from everywhere. Because I doubt there is enough of a fan base in any one location to make filming live action possible.

So we need to work out the basic setting for our story and then start working toward a shooting script.

I feel we need to do something like the pilot in that we want to find a story which shows off each of the aspects of Shado, IE Moonbase, Skydiver, the mobiles, shadow control, SID etc. I also feel we should update stuff. Rather than make everything exactly like it was, I would like to know what Shado has 30+ years down the track. How are they putting the International Space Station to use? How have the mobiles been improved? Just how fast and slick are the Interceptors now? That kinda of thing.

I also think Claudia is right we should send a message to the Andersons, to explain ourselves, and see if we can get an official sanction.
Pagrin :-)

--- In [hidden email], "Jim Vinton" <pagrin@...> wrote:




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Hi all.

I just uploaded a couple of pics from a friend to the fan film folder in the files section.
They are his take on what a mobile would look like.

I thought the group might be interested in the sort of CGI development the film could put to use.
Pagrin :-)

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:25:46 -0000
"Jim Vinton" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Actually you don't need that much permission really.
> Copyright is only breached if you make money out of the project.

Nope.