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What happened to Alec Freeman?

Dave T
Of course, we know what happened to George Sewell. He didn't have a contract holding him to the role during the break in production and the move to the other between, so he moved on to other acting gigs.

But in the show it's not mentioned what happened to Alec. (Same thing with. at various points, Gay Ellis, Mark Bradley, Peter Carlin etc.) He's there in Sub-Smash, and then never comes back. We just have to assume that he retired from SHADO or something, and that Virginia took his place.

Does any of the fan fiction explore this? (Sorry, I haven't really read any fan fic yet.)

Also, I think it is too bad that no episodes focused on Alec. (Well, one plot line of The Responsibility Seat does - but I think it makes him look foolish and unprepared for his position as second in command of SHADO.) There are several shows that centre on Paul, and we learn a lot about Ed in episodes like A Question Of Priorities and Confetti Check A-OK. By comparison, we learn so little about Alec...

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Re: What happened to Alec Freeman?

Marc Martin
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> But in the show it's not mentioned what happened to Alec. (Same thing
> with. at various points, Gay Ellis, Mark Bradley, Peter Carlin etc.) He's
> there in Sub-Smash, and then never comes back.

Well, in the original broadcasts, the episodes were mostly shown in a
random order, so I'm not sure people originally noticed that Freeman
disappeared, but rather that he was not present in all episodes.

Of course, now that we have the original production order (thanks
to the research of Chris Bentley at Fanderson), we do now have to
come up with our own explanation for what happened to Freeman.

Marc
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Wasn't the episode where Paul is brainwashed to kill Straker, at the end, Paul acknowledges there is only one way out of SHADO?? Like the MOB, you don't retire :)

Bruce
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Subject: [SHADO] What happened to Alec Freeman?


Of course, we know what happened to George Sewell. He didn't have a contract holding him to the role during the break in production and the move to the other between, so he moved on to other acting gigs.

But in the show it's not mentioned what happened to Alec. (Same thing with. at various points, Gay Ellis, Mark Bradley, Peter Carlin etc.) He's there in Sub-Smash, and then never comes back. We just have to assume that he retired from SHADO or something, and that Virginia took his place.

Does any of the fan fiction explore this? (Sorry, I haven't really read any fan fic yet.)

Also, I think it is too bad that no episodes focused on Alec. (Well, one plot line of The Responsibility Seat does - but I think it makes him look foolish and unprepared for his position as second in command of SHADO.) There are several shows that centre on Paul, and we learn a lot about Ed in episodes like A Question Of Priorities and Confetti Check A-OK. By comparison, we learn so little about Alec...

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MARY VERES

I think the episodes focused on Paul rather than Alec because he was young, brash, hansom and they hoped he would attract the female audience to the show. As much as I enjoyed Alec's character, I'm not sure I would describe him as hansom in the way Paul was!



Cheers,

Mary



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Wasn't the episode where Paul is brainwashed to kill Straker, at the end, Paul acknowledges there is only one way out of SHADO?? Like the MOB, you don't retire :)

Bruce
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Subject: [SHADO] What happened to Alec Freeman?

Of course, we know what happened to George Sewell. He didn't have a contract holding him to the role during the break in production and the move to the other between, so he moved on to other acting gigs.

But in the show it's not mentioned what happened to Alec. (Same thing with. at various points, Gay Ellis, Mark Bradley, Peter Carlin etc.) He's there in Sub-Smash, and then never comes back. We just have to assume that he retired from SHADO or something, and that Virginia took his place.

Does any of the fan fiction explore this? (Sorry, I haven't really read any fan fic yet.)

Also, I think it is too bad that no episodes focused on Alec. (Well, one plot line of The Responsibility Seat does - but I think it makes him look foolish and unprepared for his position as second in command of SHADO.) There are several shows that centre on Paul, and we learn a lot about Ed in episodes like A Question Of Priorities and Confetti Check A-OK. By comparison, we learn so little about Alec...

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Re: What happened to Alec Freeman?

Lightcudder-2
Did anything need to have happened to Alec Freeman? Surely he could simply have been in another base - Moonbase, Skydiver fleet etc. If he had been killed off thenI think the scriptwriters would have used that in the episodes. It would have made a very compelling storyline especially as they had gone to some trouble to emphasise his friendship with Straker in the past.
Paul Foster always seemed to be a one dimensional character tp me. Poor script writing and a not very believable character. It seemed as if he was brought in to add some 'hunkiness' to the show, but I don't know that it worked! Freeman was always the more believable person.

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> Of course, we know what happened to George Sewell. He didn't have a contract holding him to the role during the break in production and the move to the other between, so he moved on to other acting gigs.
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Re: What happened to Alec Freeman?

Lightcudder-2
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Regarding Fan fiction and Alec Freeman, no I don't think that his disappearance is covered to any serious extent in fanfiction, although there are a couple of short stories that deal with Freeman's death, though not relatingit to the series. Interesting thought though!! Hmmm.......

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> Of course, we know what happened to George Sewell. He didn't have a contract holding him to the role during the break in production and the moveto the other between, so he moved on to other acting gigs.
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> But in the show it's not mentioned what happened to Alec. (Same thing with. at various points, Gay Ellis, Mark Bradley, Peter Carlin etc.) He's there in Sub-Smash, and then never comes back. We just have to assume that heretired from SHADO or something, and that Virginia took his place.
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> Does any of the fan fiction explore this? (Sorry, I haven't really readany fan fic yet.)
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> Also, I think it is too bad that no episodes focused on Alec. (Well, one plot line of The Responsibility Seat does - but I think it makes him lookfoolish and unprepared for his position as second in command of SHADO.) There are several shows that centre on Paul, and we learn a lot about Ed in episodes like A Question Of Priorities and Confetti Check A-OK. By comparison, we learn so little about Alec...
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MMMM... Paauulll...*sigh*.....  Alec, Alec who?

Natalie

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I think the episodes focused on Paul rather than Alec because he was young,brash, hansom and they hoped he would attract the female audience to the show. As much as I enjoyed Alec's character, I'm not sure I would describe him as hansom in the way Paul was!



Cheers,



Mary

 



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From: brucesherman@ sprintmail. com

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:10:33 -0400

Subject: Re: [SHADO] What happened to Alec Freeman?



Wasn't the episode where Paul is brainwashed to kill Straker, at the end, Paul acknowledges there is only one way out of SHADO?? Like the MOB, you don't retire :)



Bruce

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To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 1:26 PM

Subject: [SHADO] What happened to Alec Freeman?



Of course, we know what happened to George Sewell. He didn't have a contract holding him to the role during the break in production and the move to the other between, so he moved on to other acting gigs.



But in the show it's not mentioned what happened to Alec. (Same thing with.at various points, Gay Ellis, Mark Bradley, Peter Carlin etc.) He's there in Sub-Smash, and then never comes back. We just have to assume that he retired from SHADO or something, and that Virginia took his place.



Does any of the fan fiction explore this? (Sorry, I haven't really read anyfan fic yet.)



Also, I think it is too bad that no episodes focused on Alec. (Well, one plot line of The Responsibility Seat does - but I think it makes him look foolish and unprepared for his position as second in command of SHADO.) There are several shows that centre on Paul, and we learn a lot about Ed in episodes like A Question Of Priorities and Confetti Check A-OK. By comparison, we learn so little about Alec...



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Just another observation on this topic! Was George Sewell in the credits inthe last nine episodes. I haven't checked them all, but I  seem to recall that he is shown at the beginning in the title sequence and this would suggest that the character was still around. Or perhaps the couldn't be bothered (or afford) to redo the sequence.
Louise

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MMMM... Paauulll...* sigh*.... .  Alec, Alec who?

Natalie

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Subject: RE: [SHADO] What happened to Alec Freeman?
To: shado@yahoogroups. com
Received: Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 4:41 AM

 

I think the episodes focused on Paul rather than Alec because he was young,brash, hansom and they hoped he would attract the female audience to the show. As much as I enjoyed Alec's character, I'm not sure I would describe him as hansom in the way Paul was!

Cheers,

Mary

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From: brucesherman@ sprintmail. com

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:10:33 -0400

Subject: Re: [SHADO] What happened to Alec Freeman?

Wasn't the episode where Paul is brainwashed to kill Straker, at the end, Paul acknowledges there is only one way out of SHADO?? Like the MOB, you don't retire :)

Bruce

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To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 1:26 PM

Subject: [SHADO] What happened to Alec Freeman?

Of course, we know what happened to George Sewell. He didn't have a contract holding him to the role during the break in production and the move to the other between, so he moved on to other acting gigs.

But in the show it's not mentioned what happened to Alec. (Same thing with.at various points, Gay Ellis, Mark Bradley, Peter Carlin etc.) He's there in Sub-Smash, and then never comes back. We just have to assume that he retired from SHADO or something, and that Virginia took his place.

Does any of the fan fiction explore this? (Sorry, I haven't really read anyfan fic yet.)

Also, I think it is too bad that no episodes focused on Alec. (Well, one plot line of The Responsibility Seat does - but I think it makes him look foolish and unprepared for his position as second in command of SHADO.) There are several shows that centre on Paul, and we learn a lot about Ed in episodes like A Question Of Priorities and Confetti Check A-OK. By comparison, we learn so little about Alec...

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Yes, you are correct.  Alec was still shown in the opening theme even after leaving the show along with the others that had left  Same exact footage.  I'm sure as you said, they didn't have the money to spare to change it, or didn't see the point..
 
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Just another observation on this topic! Was George Sewell in the credits inthe last nine episodes. I haven't checked them all, but I  seem to recall that he is shown at the beginning in the title sequence and this would suggest that the character was still around. Or perhaps the couldn't be bothered (or afford) to redo the sequence.
Louise

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From: Natalie Foster <somethingthatsaysme @yahoo.com. au>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] What happened to Alec Freeman?
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
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MMMM... Paauulll...* sigh*.... .  Alec, Alec who?

Natalie

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From: MARY VERES <veres_mary@ msn. com>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] What happened to Alec Freeman?
To: shado@yahoogroups. com
Received: Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 4:41 AM

 

I think the episodes focused on Paul rather than Alec because he was young,brash, hansom and they hoped he would attract the female audience to the show. As much as I enjoyed Alec's character, I'm not sure I would describe him as hansom in the way Paul was!

Cheers,

Mary

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From: brucesherman@ sprintmail. com

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:10:33 -0400

Subject: Re: [SHADO] What happened to Alec Freeman?

Wasn't the episode where Paul is brainwashed to kill Straker, at the end, Paul acknowledges there is only one way out of SHADO?? Like the MOB, you don't retire :)

Bruce

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From: Dave T

To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 1:26 PM

Subject: [SHADO] What happened to Alec Freeman?

Of course, we know what happened to George Sewell. He didn't have a contract holding him to the role during the break in production and the move to the other between, so he moved on to other acting gigs.

But in the show it's not mentioned what happened to Alec. (Same thing with.at various points, Gay Ellis, Mark Bradley, Peter Carlin etc.) He's there in Sub-Smash, and then never comes back. We just have to assume that he retired from SHADO or something, and that Virginia took his place.

Does any of the fan fiction explore this? (Sorry, I haven't really read anyfan fic yet.)

Also, I think it is too bad that no episodes focused on Alec. (Well, one plot line of The Responsibility Seat does - but I think it makes him look foolish and unprepared for his position as second in command of SHADO.) There are several shows that centre on Paul, and we learn a lot about Ed in episodes like A Question Of Priorities and Confetti Check A-OK. By comparison, we learn so little about Alec...

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> Just another observation on this topic! Was George Sewell in the credits
> in the last nine episodes. I haven't checked them all, but I  seem to
> recall that he is shown at the beginning in the title sequence and this
> would suggest that the character was still around. Or perhaps the
> couldn't be bothered (or afford) to redo the sequence.

He was still shown in the opening sequence, but his name was not listed in
any of the beginning or ending credit listings.

Marc
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As has been mentioned the episodes of UFO were not shown in production order (although that would have made far more sense than most of the transmission orders) so if Alec Freeman had been written out in some way or even killed off that would have tied the hands of the broadcasters regarding transmission order. The way it appeared over transmissions was that Freeman was sometimes around and sometimes not. No one can be on duty all the time so this is perfectly plausible. I suppose the obvious way to write him out would have been his death in some UFO incident but he could have been moved "upstairs" in SHADO or been given command of some other unit or project, allowing new blood to come through. The latter options would also have allowed him to be brought back if required. I'm certainly glad he didn't suffer the indignity of a casual remark in the script of his death as has happened to quite a number of characters across various series. All considered I
think the producers did the best thing in light of his departure.
 
Alan Briscoe

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> Just another observation on this topic! Was George Sewell in the credits
> in the last nine episodes. I haven't checked them all, but I  seem to
> recall that he is shown at the beginning in the title sequence and this
> would suggest that the character was still around. Or perhaps the
> couldn't be bothered (or afford) to redo the sequence.

He was still shown in the opening sequence, but his name was not listed in
any of the beginning or ending credit listings.

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