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Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

James Killian
Probably not Yuchy<g>.  The sames goes for drinking that "special coffee" SHADO
serves.  Which is why I don't drink coffee because then I would forget Aysha
serving it.
    Oh on the heels of seeing Wanda Venthan in last night episode of The Saint
had Ed Bishop in tonights episode called The Revolution Rackett.
James K.




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From: Yuchtar <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tue, August 16, 2011 9:33:00 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 
Would you remember if you had?

;^)

Y

Billy Killian wrote:
> Only make believe. Seen any guys in black suits and sunglass with intials for
> names and a sudden flash of very bright light Deb?
> James K.

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Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Deborah Rorabaugh-2
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I could tell you - then I'd have to kill you.

 

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Billy Killian
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:23 PM
To: [hidden email]
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Only make believe.  Seen any guys in black suits and sunglass with intials
for
names and a sudden flash of very bright light Deb?
James K.

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From: Deborah Rorabaugh <[hidden email] <mailto:momkat%40dandello.net>
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Sent: Tue, August 16, 2011 6:00:23 PM
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Aren't you glad it's only make-believe? *grin*

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Of .
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thats another thing!!!!
she is revolving around her apt like a ufo!!!!!!
frying astronauts, walking around like a spinner. sending messages to the
aliens.
i dont know whats become of the world.
jim

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Cmdr. Lake is keeping an eye on her. She is acting normally, then like a
switch is thrown, almost turns into a robot, walks around her apartment in a
zombie like trance. Looks like some type of mind control to me. Perhaps they
used that her father was still alive, allowed the aliens to program her??

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
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Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Pretty sure that's the one he's talking about - Sarah Bosenquet. Which means
interceptor dude was Steve Minto.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:55 PM
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wasn't she mind controlled? hypnotized with post hypnotic triggers?

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
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To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I certainly hope people aren't being fried all the time by dumb broads
wielding neutrino telescope lasers - it would get old fast. *grin*

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i just saw that dumb broad fry the intercepter dude with her nuetrino
telescope laser.
she just kept frying him in his parking orbit while the u.f.o. laughed. he
didnt even know hwat was happening to him. she didnt even know that she was
doing it either.
the sad part is that stuff like that happens all the time, and if you tried
to do it on purpose no one would believe you at all.
jim

From: Deborah Rorabaugh <mailto:momkat%40dandello.net
<mailto:momkat%40dandello.net>
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To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I admit in my own works I will ignore certain things that don't work for the
story I want to tell. We all do. And that doesn't mean we don't know what's
actually in the eps, or that we're too dull to recognize when things doesn't
mesh with the Real World.

But it IS very annoying when a few come in and declare themselves experts
and imply the rest of us aren't bright for not recognizing the ultimate
truth of their inspiration.

There is one simple real determiner for canon - was it on the show? If you
can't point out which episode your 'facts' are from, then you shouldn't
claim that a fact is canon.

We all have versions of Straker's background (and Freeman and Foster, etc.)
that we use in our stories. And that's exactly as it should be. It's the
quality of the story being told that should count.

And there are a few quite popular fandoms where canon is barely an advisory.

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Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Hi Deb - I get the impression that there are certain people who seem to
think that they know ALL the canon connected to UFO and that a writer MUST
maintain their POVs. With only 26 eps there isn't alot of canon. It's been
maybe 2 yrs since I watched all the eps (well, 25 of them - I never watch
TCWTL), and I know Denise and Matt and others have finagled things when
necessary - who hasn't. I know some writers who have given Straker a whole
family of origin or married him off - is that canon either? But I don't
think those stories are any less worthy of merit than any others. Some are
extremely good and should be accepted as such. Besides, we know as fanfic
authors our work isn't canon, any more than all those Star Trek novels were
(Gene R said he didn't consider them canon at all), but why stop the
creativity and fun?

Cheers, Pam

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From: Deborah Rorabaugh
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<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

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<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Deborah Rorabaugh-2
For those who are utterly confused by some of the comments over on
'Straker's Age" page at the Herald.

LJ is Livejournal.com, a blogging site that serves writers, political
dissidents, and anyone else who cares to join.

One of their communities (rather like a Yahoo Group only in an online
threaded format rather an email list) is called 'little-details'. This is a
place people can go and post questions on how things work in real life to
add verisimilitude to their stories. Generally, LJ members post under their
own name (it takes all of 15 seconds to join the community if you're an LJ
member). Others can send in a request and a moderator will post it for them.


One of the community rules is that the person posting the question needs to
show they've already done their due diligence in trying to find the answer
themselves but just haven't had any luck. The vast majority of question
posers get usable answers or at least leads to usable facts within a few
hours and they are grateful for the help. But there are always exceptions.

 

The LJ thread in little-details where andelendir's precious beyond gold
ideas were 'stolen' is here:
http://little-details.livejournal.com/3011736.html

 

Cheers - Deb



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Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Yuchtar-2
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I don't have cable, darn it. Is this the original Saint with Roger
Moore? Been many, many years since I've seen that.

Y

Billy Killian wrote:

>     Oh on the heels of seeing Wanda Venthan in last night episode of The Saint
> had Ed Bishop in tonights episode called The Revolution Rackett.
> James K.


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Re: The Saint

Marc Martin
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On 8/16/2011 10:45 PM, Yuchtar wrote:
> I don't have cable, darn it. Is this the original Saint with Roger
> Moore? Been many, many years since I've seen that.

Actually, RTV is an over-the-air channel where I live (but is
also on cable).  Thanks to James, there was time for me to
record these two episodes, and I've already watched the
first.

These *are* the original Saint episodes with Roger Moore.  Rather
surprising to see on American, over-the-air television in this
day and age!  (I had no idea these were on -- too many cable
channels, with no idea what's on most of them!)

Marc
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RE: The Saint

Deborah Rorabaugh-2
Where I am we now have Retro TV off air and in decent quality. DH now has a
new channel to fall asleep watching. LOL.

Missed the Saint, though - have to check Netflix for the DVDs.

 

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc
Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:57 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] The Saint

 

 

On 8/16/2011 10:45 PM, Yuchtar wrote:
> I don't have cable, darn it. Is this the original Saint with Roger
> Moore? Been many, many years since I've seen that.

Actually, RTV is an over-the-air channel where I live (but is
also on cable). Thanks to James, there was time for me to
record these two episodes, and I've already watched the
first.

These *are* the original Saint episodes with Roger Moore. Rather
surprising to see on American, over-the-air television in this
day and age! (I had no idea these were on -- too many cable
channels, with no idea what's on most of them!)

Marc





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Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

James Killian
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Yes, the original one with Roger Moore.  Damn sorry you have no cable Yuchy.
James K.




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From: Yuchtar <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wed, August 17, 2011 12:45:18 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 
I don't have cable, darn it. Is this the original Saint with Roger
Moore? Been many, many years since I've seen that.

Y

Billy Killian wrote:

> Oh on the heels of seeing Wanda Venthan in last night episode of The Saint
> had Ed Bishop in tonights episode called The Revolution Rackett.
> James K.

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Re: The Saint

James Killian
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We RTV very high up in our channels so its on digital.  I was slightly surprised
when they carried it as it British and that usually puts most American cable
channels right off showing something made "over there".  I did not know it was
on till I had missed about half a season of the 1962 episodes.  Glad you got to
record the ones with Ed and Wanda Marc.  In some of the past ones you have
missed a very young Jean Marsh and Darren Nesbitt in another.
James K.




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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wed, August 17, 2011 8:57:16 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] The Saint

 
On 8/16/2011 10:45 PM, Yuchtar wrote:
> I don't have cable, darn it. Is this the original Saint with Roger
> Moore? Been many, many years since I've seen that.

Actually, RTV is an over-the-air channel where I live (but is
also on cable). Thanks to James, there was time for me to
record these two episodes, and I've already watched the
first.

These *are* the original Saint episodes with Roger Moore. Rather
surprising to see on American, over-the-air television in this
day and age! (I had no idea these were on -- too many cable
channels, with no idea what's on most of them!)

Marc



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Re: The Saint

Pam McCaughey-2
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  I liked Roger Moore as the Saint when I was a kid, but knowing Mike Billington was tested 3 times for Bond, and Roger Moore won out, has been a disappointment for me. The Bond films starring Moore were not as good as the Sean Connery versions, and I think Billington would have brought a better quality to Bond than did Moore. Apparently Moore's name carried more cachet with the producers, but Moore's slicked back hair and idiotic facial expressions made him look more like a British Dean Martin camping it up, than a Bond. I understand Ed Bishop once told Mike that he should write a book called "The Bond That Never Was" or something similar in order to explain how different the franchise might have been had Mike been chosen. I think Mike had more of the looks, the brooding qualities and the physical presence of a Bond - certainly moreso than Moore.

  Pam the Canuck

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Deborah Rorabaugh-2
I heartily agree - I've never really taken a shine to Moore's Bond.
Billington's Bond would have had more of a brooding, dangerous quality - a
little like Dalton's did.

 

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:48 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] The Saint

 

 


I liked Roger Moore as the Saint when I was a kid, but knowing Mike
Billington was tested 3 times for Bond, and Roger Moore won out, has been a
disappointment for me. The Bond films starring Moore were not as good as the
Sean Connery versions, and I think Billington would have brought a better
quality to Bond than did Moore. Apparently Moore's name carried more cachet
with the producers, but Moore's slicked back hair and idiotic facial
expressions made him look more like a British Dean Martin camping it up,
than a Bond. I understand Ed Bishop once told Mike that he should write a
book called "The Bond That Never Was" or something similar in order to
explain how different the franchise might have been had Mike been chosen. I
think Mike had more of the looks, the brooding qualities and the physical
presence of a Bond - certainly moreso than Moore.

Pam the Canuck

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Clay
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Billington would have been great as Bond. Both Billington and Daniel Craig almost share the same rugged look.

Moore's Bond was just a continuation of roles of either Simon Templar and Beau Maverick.



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To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:47 AM
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I liked Roger Moore as the Saint when I was a kid, but knowing Mike Billington was tested 3 times for Bond, and Roger Moore won out, has been a disappointment for me. The Bond films starring Moore were not as good as the Sean Connery versions, and I think Billington would have brought a better quality to Bond than did Moore. Apparently Moore's name carried more cachet with the producers, but Moore's slicked back hair and idiotic facial expressions made him look more like a British Dean Martin camping it up, than a Bond. I understand Ed Bishop once told Mike that he should write a book called "The Bond That Never Was" or something similar in order to explain how different the franchise might have been had Mike been chosen. I think Mike had more of the looks, the brooding qualities and the physical presence of a Bond - certainly moreso than Moore.

Pam the Canuck

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Bruce Sherman
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I like Moore and Connery equal, followed closely by Brosnan. I never like Dalton.  One of the movies when they shot Felix Lighters just married wife was too much.  It’s a toss up who I like less, Craig or whats his name from on her majesties secret service.

Some of Moores movies suffered more from script problems then bad acting.  I liked The Spy who loved me for it had Hammer girl, Caroline Munro. :)

I found Connery’s From Russia with love boring.  Can you say you like that better then Live and Let Die?  Ok, I like any movie that takes place in New york, but you cant say it was a bad movie.

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:19 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [SHADO] The Saint

 
I heartily agree - I've never really taken a shine to Moore's Bond.
Billington's Bond would have had more of a brooding, dangerous quality - a
little like Dalton's did.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:48 AM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] The Saint

I liked Roger Moore as the Saint when I was a kid, but knowing Mike
Billington was tested 3 times for Bond, and Roger Moore won out, has been a
disappointment for me. The Bond films starring Moore were not as good as the
Sean Connery versions, and I think Billington would have brought a better
quality to Bond than did Moore. Apparently Moore's name carried more cachet
with the producers, but Moore's slicked back hair and idiotic facial
expressions made him look more like a British Dean Martin camping it up,
than a Bond. I understand Ed Bishop once told Mike that he should write a
book called "The Bond That Never Was" or something similar in order to
explain how different the franchise might have been had Mike been chosen. I
think Mike had more of the looks, the brooding qualities and the physical
presence of a Bond - certainly moreso than Moore.

Pam the Canuck

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Re: The Saint

richard curzon
The best Bond for me was Connery, but the best Bond film was On her Majesty's Secret Service (1969) with an ok George Lazenby.

Rick

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      I like Moore and Connery equal, followed closely by Brosnan. I never like Dalton.  One of the movies when they shot Felix Lighters just married wife was too much.  It’s a toss up who I like less, Craig or whats his name from on her majesties secret service.



Some of Moores movies suffered more from script problems then bad acting.  I liked The Spy who loved me for it had Hammer girl, Caroline Munro. :)



I found Connery’s From Russia with love boring.  Can you say you like that better then Live and Let Die?  Ok, I like any movie that takes place in New york, but you cant say it was a bad movie.



Bruce



From: Deborah Rorabaugh

Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:19 AM

To: [hidden email]

Subject: RE: [SHADO] The Saint



I heartily agree - I've never really taken a shine to Moore's Bond.

Billington's Bond would have had more of a brooding, dangerous quality - a

little like Dalton's did.



_____



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McCaughey

Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:48 AM

To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [SHADO] The Saint



I liked Roger Moore as the Saint when I was a kid, but knowing Mike

Billington was tested 3 times for Bond, and Roger Moore won out, has been a

disappointment for me. The Bond films starring Moore were not as good as the

Sean Connery versions, and I think Billington would have brought a better

quality to Bond than did Moore. Apparently Moore's name carried more cachet

with the producers, but Moore's slicked back hair and idiotic facial

expressions made him look more like a British Dean Martin camping it up,

than a Bond. I understand Ed Bishop once told Mike that he should write a

book called "The Bond That Never Was" or something similar in order to

explain how different the franchise might have been had Mike been chosen. I

think Mike had more of the looks, the brooding qualities and the physical

presence of a Bond - certainly moreso than Moore.



Pam the Canuck



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Re: The Saint

Matt
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My two favorite Bond flicks, "Thunderball" and "The Spy Who Loved Me." Best Bond, Sean Connery, IMHO.

Connery kicked a** in "The Hunt for Red October!"

"Hey, Ryan. Be careful what you shoot at. Some things in here don't react well to bullets."

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Deborah Rorabaugh-2
Hey, ya gotta love movies that star submarines, planes, and aircraft
carriers.

Connery was the best, hands down. And Lazenby might have pulled if off is
they hadn't made him talk to the camera about the 'other guy'. That just
ruined any possible suspension of disbelief.

Oddly enough, I liked Dalton - less funny than Moore - a real dangerous,
almost sociopath, quality about him very reminiscent (to me at least) of the
Fleming novels - somebody you're glad is on your side but you don't really
want to invite home for dinner.

Billington could carry that off and Craig does it well now, but I'm having a
bit of a problem seeing Bond as having sandy hair.

Brosnan had a touch of the dangerous, but he carried the humor off as well.

 

  _____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [SHADO] Re: The Saint

 

 

My two favorite Bond flicks, "Thunderball" and "The Spy Who Loved Me." Best
Bond, Sean Connery, IMHO.

Connery kicked a** in "The Hunt for Red October!"

"Hey, Ryan. Be careful what you shoot at. Some things in here don't react
well to bullets."





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Re: The Saint

Bruce Sherman
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Telly Sevalas as a bad guy? I don't think so, he looked crazy in the Dirty Dozen, but OHMSS??  Just didn't seem believable :)

Bruce
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  From: richard curzon
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [SHADO] The Saint


   
  The best Bond for me was Connery, but the best Bond film was On her Majesty's Secret Service (1969) with an ok George Lazenby.

  Rick

  --- On Thu, 18/8/11, Bruce Sherman <[hidden email]> wrote:

  From: Bruce Sherman <[hidden email]>
  Subject: Re: [SHADO] The Saint
  To: [hidden email]
  Date: Thursday, 18 August, 2011, 0:00

  Â

  I like Moore and Connery equal, followed closely by Brosnan. I never like Dalton. One of the movies when they shot Felix Lighters just married wife was too much. It’s a toss up who I like less, Craig or whats his name from on her majesties secret service.

  Some of Moores movies suffered more from script problems then bad acting. I liked The Spy who loved me for it had Hammer girl, Caroline Munro. :)

  I found Connery’s From Russia with love boring. Can you say you like that better then Live and Let Die? Ok, I like any movie that takes place in New york, but you cant say it was a bad movie.

  Bruce

  From: Deborah Rorabaugh

  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:19 AM

  To: [hidden email]

  Subject: RE: [SHADO] The Saint

  I heartily agree - I've never really taken a shine to Moore's Bond.

  Billington's Bond would have had more of a brooding, dangerous quality - a

  little like Dalton's did.

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  From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam

  McCaughey

  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:48 AM

  To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com

  Subject: Re: [SHADO] The Saint

  I liked Roger Moore as the Saint when I was a kid, but knowing Mike

  Billington was tested 3 times for Bond, and Roger Moore won out, has been a

  disappointment for me. The Bond films starring Moore were not as good as the

  Sean Connery versions, and I think Billington would have brought a better

  quality to Bond than did Moore. Apparently Moore's name carried more cachet

  with the producers, but Moore's slicked back hair and idiotic facial

  expressions made him look more like a British Dean Martin camping it up,

  than a Bond. I understand Ed Bishop once told Mike that he should write a

  book called "The Bond That Never Was" or something similar in order to

  explain how different the franchise might have been had Mike been chosen. I

  think Mike had more of the looks, the brooding qualities and the physical

  presence of a Bond - certainly moreso than Moore.

  Pam the Canuck

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Re: The Saint

leviathan0999
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Hi, All,

If we're talking Bond here, it's this simple:

While his coloring's all wrong for the part, nobody has ever played Ian Fleming's character more closely than Daniel Craig. (Second best was Timothy Dalton. Worst -- not counting the joke versions in the original "Casino Royale" spoof movie of the '60s, or Barry Nelson as American agent "Card Sense Jimmy Bond" in a 1950s episode of "Climax" -- was Roger Moore. Closely grouped above Moore come the unjustly maligned George Lazenby, Pierce Brosnan and Sean Connery.)

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Jonathan Andrew Sheen

http://www.leviathanstudios.com
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Re: The Saint

Bruce Sherman
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yes, I totally agree, talking to the camera ruined it, made it comical.

Bruce
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Deborah Rorabaugh
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:59 PM
  Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Saint


   
  Hey, ya gotta love movies that star submarines, planes, and aircraft
  carriers.

  Connery was the best, hands down. And Lazenby might have pulled if off is
  they hadn't made him talk to the camera about the 'other guy'. That just
  ruined any possible suspension of disbelief.

  Oddly enough, I liked Dalton - less funny than Moore - a real dangerous,
  almost sociopath, quality about him very reminiscent (to me at least) of the
  Fleming novels - somebody you're glad is on your side but you don't really
  want to invite home for dinner.

  Billington could carry that off and Craig does it well now, but I'm having a
  bit of a problem seeing Bond as having sandy hair.

  Brosnan had a touch of the dangerous, but he carried the humor off as well.

  _____

  From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:43 PM
  To: [hidden email]
  Subject: [SHADO] Re: The Saint

  My two favorite Bond flicks, "Thunderball" and "The Spy Who Loved Me." Best
  Bond, Sean Connery, IMHO.

  Connery kicked a** in "The Hunt for Red October!"

  "Hey, Ryan. Be careful what you shoot at. Some things in here don't react
  well to bullets."

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Re: The Saint Bond Trivia Question

Marc Douglas-2
I also think that Lazenby did a good job on OHMSS which had the best script of any Bond film. Let's see how quickly you get this one...

Three Actors portrayed James Bond in 1983...Name the actors and the movies.

Marc (A different one) and I can't stand Pierce's Bond and thought that Dalton should get more credit than he does
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Bruce Sherman
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Saint


   
  yes, I totally agree, talking to the camera ruined it, made it comical.

  Bruce
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Deborah Rorabaugh
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:59 PM
  Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Saint

  Hey, ya gotta love movies that star submarines, planes, and aircraft
  carriers.

  Connery was the best, hands down. And Lazenby might have pulled if off is
  they hadn't made him talk to the camera about the 'other guy'. That just
  ruined any possible suspension of disbelief.

  Oddly enough, I liked Dalton - less funny than Moore - a real dangerous,
  almost sociopath, quality about him very reminiscent (to me at least) of the
  Fleming novels - somebody you're glad is on your side but you don't really
  want to invite home for dinner.

  Billington could carry that off and Craig does it well now, but I'm having a
  bit of a problem seeing Bond as having sandy hair.

  Brosnan had a touch of the dangerous, but he carried the humor off as well.

  _____



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Re: The Saint Bond Trivia Question

Deborah Rorabaugh-2
Well, Sean Connery in 'Never Say Never' was one. (Personal note: the company
my DH worked for then made the wetsuits for the film and Connery's
measurements were the same as my hubby's. (He got to bring home one of the
unused ones.) <VBG>

 

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc
Douglas
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:25 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Saint Bond Trivia Question

 

 

I also think that Lazenby did a good job on OHMSS which had the best script
of any Bond film. Let's see how quickly you get this one...

Three Actors portrayed James Bond in 1983...Name the actors and the movies.

Marc (A different one) and I can't stand Pierce's Bond and thought that
Dalton should get more credit than he does
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Sherman
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Saint

yes, I totally agree, talking to the camera ruined it, made it comical.

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Saint

Hey, ya gotta love movies that star submarines, planes, and aircraft
carriers.

Connery was the best, hands down. And Lazenby might have pulled if off is
they hadn't made him talk to the camera about the 'other guy'. That just
ruined any possible suspension of disbelief.

Oddly enough, I liked Dalton - less funny than Moore - a real dangerous,
almost sociopath, quality about him very reminiscent (to me at least) of the
Fleming novels - somebody you're glad is on your side but you don't really
want to invite home for dinner.

Billington could carry that off and Craig does it well now, but I'm having a
bit of a problem seeing Bond as having sandy hair.

Brosnan had a touch of the dangerous, but he carried the humor off as well.

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