ordeal

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>
> Actually we're just finishing discussing "Ordeal" so if
you have any views
> on it other than about Foster's hairy chest than do
speak. I think the story
> is a bit bland but all the equipment and people
interaction scenes make it
> prett good. Just enough suspense to keep me wide
awake <g>.
>

hi John,
about the Ordeal episode if i may....it seems to have
received a bit of flak from some memebers.Personally
it was this episode i remember most vividly from
seeing the series the first time.And i was so relieved it
WAS all a dream.Although it was Lt.Gay Ellis i was
most interested in, Col Foster became my favourite
SHADO dude.And his singing for some reason i never
forgot.he seemed more of a big brother,unlike Freeman
who i didn't like at all. Far too bossy,but without the style
of Ed Straker.I remember me and a friend would
discuss each episode and Straker was very hard for us
to work out.an enigma.anyway...

cv
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In message <20010510025401.FAFP2173058.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@[192.168.2.9]
>, [hidden email] writes
>Col Foster became my favourite
>SHADO dude.And his singing for some reason i never
>forgot.he seemed more of a big brother,unlike Freeman
>who i didn't like at all. Far too bossy,but without the style
>of Ed Straker.

I think poor poppet Alec's getting the rough end of the stick here!!

OK, No, he doesn't have the same presence as Straker - but if he had,
this would only have detracted from the very pivotal & central character
Ed Bishop played, which was/is one of the most memorable in UFO, IMO.
Alec Freeman's rather more "human" character within SHADO - the
organisation of "beautiful people" - compliments Straker's perfectly as
his sidekick.

Lastly, Big bro Foster undoubtedly wouldn't get away with barking gruff
commands at his female colleagues in THIS day & age without being hauled
over the coals by someone at the top...!
Di

[hidden email] wrote:

>
> hi John,
> about the Ordeal episode if i may....it seems to have
> received a bit of flak from some memebers.Personally
> it was this episode i remember most vividly from
> seeing the series the first time.And i was so relieved it
> WAS all a dream.

Well THANKS FOR RUINING IT for those of us who haven't seen it!!!!! I
suppose next you will tell us that Norman Bates is his own mother????
;)
Heh.
AT

In message <[hidden email]>, A.Taylor
<[hidden email]> writes
>Well THANKS FOR RUINING IT for those of us who haven't seen it!!!!!

Oh stop whinging bum patter!! Nobody FORCED you to read the post clearly
marked "ORDEAL" did they!!??? <very cheeky grin>
> I
>suppose next you will tell us that Norman Bates is his own mother????
>;)
>Heh.
>AT

You mean you hadn't already worked THAT out!? Sheesh! some people....
Di

on 5/10/01 21:09, Diane Bentley at [hidden email] wrote:

>>unlike Freeman
>> who i didn't like at all. Far too bossy,but without the style
>> of Ed Straker.
>
> I think poor poppet Alec's getting the rough end of the stick here!!

yeah i guess he is, every show needs a fall guy.I think it all stemmed from
the 1st ep...when he tried to smarm his way round Col Lake.
But what did i know at that age.And also his coiffure wasn't in the same
league as Neds.

> OK, No, he doesn't have the same presence as Straker - but if he had,
> this would only have detracted from the very pivotal & central character
> Ed Bishop played, which was/is one of the most memorable in UFO, IMO.

You are right of course,and since i have been able to view the series again
i have seen Alec in a new light.As you say,'more human.'I have a lot to
learn grasshopper.

ChRis

on 5/11/01 3:34, A.Taylor at [hidden email] wrote:

Gosh,sorry about that chief.I'm not prepared to swear,but i'm almost certain
i saw a post mentioning the dream as a weakness in the story.And who is
norman bakes?

ChRis

In message <B721AD16.849%[hidden email]>, cv <[hidden email]>
writes
>yeah i guess he is, every show needs a fall guy.I think it all stemmed from
>the 1st ep...when he tried to smarm his way round Col Lake.
>But what did i know at that age.And also his coiffure wasn't in the same
>league as Neds.

No, that bouffant wasn't really George, I must admit..
>
>You are right of course,and since i have been able to view the series again
>i have seen Alec in a new light.As you say,'more human.'I have a lot to
>learn grasshopper.
>
>ChRis

No worries - me too! :¬)
Di

--- In SHADO@y..., cv <cvandie@x> wrote:
> You are right of course,and since i have been able to view the
> series again i have seen Alec in a new light. As you say,'more
> human.' I have a lot to learn grasshopper.
>

Yes, "Alec Freeman" is a *very* different character than "Mark Neuman"
played by Sewell in "Doppelganger". Neuman was Eurosec Director Jason
Webb's ramrod and security chief. He played a much darker, more
sinister character. Without the freeman wig too.

I am looking for the original "Get Carter" with Michael Caine so I can
see more of this side of Sewell's acting. Anyone here seen it?

on 5/12/01 1:55, Teresa at [hidden email] wrote:

Doppelganger or Journey to the Far Side of the Sun,is a movie i would love
to see...Roy Thinnes from the Invaders was in it as well as his then wife,
Lynn Loring.

> I am looking for the original "Get Carter" with Michael Caine so I can
> see more of this side of Sewell's acting. Anyone here seen it?
>
I saw that many many years ago,i can place Mr Caine but who did George play?
The brother? "Great movie".
ChRis

cv wrote:

It was all a big joke, amigo. No worries.
AT

Hi Teresa,

>
> I am looking for the original "Get Carter" with Michael Caine
> so I can see more of this side of Sewell's acting. Anyone
> here seen it?
>

Yes, one of my 'top ten' favourite films & we've discussed
it here on occasion - but George Sewell's character is not
particularly dark or sinister. He *is* a member of the same
criminal organisation as Carter, but we only see a minute or two
of him - he actually comes across as quite affable and jokey,
as if it's really just a job to him - there's none of Carter's
cold brutality or menace.

It's out on DVD now in the UK and highly recommended - a
landmark film for the British cinema.


Cheers
James

In message <[hidden email]>, Diane Bentley
<[hidden email]> writes
>In message <B721AD16.849%[hidden email]>, cv <[hidden email]>
>writes
>>yeah i guess he is, every show needs a fall guy.I think it all stemmed from
>>the 1st ep...when he tried to smarm his way round Col Lake.
>>But what did i know at that age.And also his coiffure wasn't in the same
>>league as Neds.
>
>No, that bouffant wasn't really George, I must admit..

Well...my husband has let his hair grow and sometimes he styles it just
like Colonel Freeman's bouffant!

--
Suzanne Sutherland
**************************Six Days, Six Weeks*********************************
*************************What's the Difference********************************
************************I'll watch UFO anytime*******************************

Teresa wrote:

> Yes, "Alec Freeman" is a *very* different character than "Mark Neuman"
> played by Sewell in "Doppelganger". Neuman was Eurosec Director Jason
> Webb's ramrod and security chief. He played a much darker, more
> sinister character. Without the freeman wig too.

He was a ruthless S.O.B. in that, wasn't he? :-)

> I am looking for the original "Get Carter" with Michael Caine so I can
> see more of this side of Sewell's acting. Anyone here seen it?

YESSSSSSSS! Great film!!

Try Amazon.com - I *think* that may be where I got my copy <ponder>

<waiting for James to jump in>

James:
<<
Yes, one of my 'top ten' favourite films & we've discussed
it here on occasion - but George Sewell's character is not
particularly dark or sinister. He *is* a member of the same
criminal organisation as Carter, but we only see a minute or two
of him - he actually comes across as quite affable and jokey,
as if it's really just a job to him - there's none of Carter's
cold brutality or menace.
>>

He is one of the few ...... no - that would be a spoiler, I'll shut up
...

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I wrote:

> > Yes, "Alec Freeman" is a *very* different character than "Mark
> > Neuman" played by Sewell in "Doppelganger". Neuman was Eurosec
> > Director Jason Webb's ramrod and security chief. He played a
> > much darker, more sinister character. Without the Freeman wig
> > too.
>

Yuchtar replied:
> He was a ruthless S.O.B. in that, wasn't he? :-)

Oh to be sure! In fact, the whole EuroSEC complex was a pretty rough
place in general. MP's all over the place, laser barriers,
flouroscopes for document vault access, an interrogation room!?!
Director Webb is pretty ruthless too. A scientist (Dr. Hassler,
played by Herbert "Dreyfus" Lom) is leaking information (photgraphing
top secret documents with a camera hidden in his glass eye) and Webb
orders Neuman to rub him out.

Neuman: We're serving up information on a plate! to our *prime*
suspect!
Webb: That's my responsibility. Your responsibility is this. *If* he
shows his hand, I *don't* want an arrest. Understood?
Neuman: Understood. <shoots Hassler six times in his bathroom>

Then there's the interrogation room
"so you turned back! why? Why?! WHY!?!?! WHY!?!?!"

Interesting movie overall. B+ I would have loved to have seen it on
the big screen, if only to see "A Gerry Anderson Production" in big
white letters....


ttfn,
Teresa



>

Teresa wrote:
<<
--- In SHADO@y..., Yuchtar <yuchtr@e...> wrote:

> YES! I got that too! The one about his upcoming con visit with Ed
> Bishop? Ugh! Wish I could go.
> <pout pout>

Yep I got that one too. I told him I couldn't make it, cause I'll be
in Jamaica that weekend. He said he'd rather be in Jamaica than
Leicester. I replied that I'd rather him be in Jamaica than
Leicester that weekend too. :-)
>>

LOL! Wish I could be in Jamaica with Teresa and Mike. <sigh>


After my flaming,
cv wrote:
> Pax?

Okay. I'm easy. {{8-)

Then,

> Doppelganger or Journey to the Far Side of the Sun,is a movie i would love
> to see...Roy Thinnes from the Invaders was in it as well as his then wife,
> Lynn Loring.

Ahhhhhh, Roy -"He With The Most Kissable Lips"- Thinnes ....
<siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh>

> > I am looking for the original "Get Carter" with Michael Caine so I can
> > see more of this side of Sewell's acting. Anyone here seen it?
> >
> I saw that many many years ago,i can place Mr Caine but who did George play?
> The brother? "Great movie".

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In message <Cb2VcEB5aE$[hidden email]>, Suzanne Sutherland
<[hidden email]> writes
>Well...my husband has let his hair grow and sometimes he styles it just
>like Colonel Freeman's bouffant!
>
>--
>Suzanne Sutherland

If you tell me he wears a brown tunic top as well - then we really could
have problems!! LOL
Di

In message <sOz4sTBmcP$[hidden email]>, Diane Bentley
<[hidden email]> writes
No, you can relax now, Di. I tell you what my husband really really
wants: his own (female) Moonbase outfit;-)
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Mistress Doctor Jackson