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I just got a junk email from A&E about their spring sale, and I
see that they are listing UFO as their 3rd best-selling "Cult TV" title. Amazing! Marc -- Cult TV Spring Sale: Current Best sellers: 1-The Saint Megaset DVD Collection http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6W0E8 2-Complete Space: 1999 DVD Megaset with Bonus DVD http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6Z0EC 3-UFO DVD set http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6c0EL -- |
Cool! The weird thing is, when I click on the link for UFO, it shows the 2nd box set (half the episodes) as on sale for $63.96 (OUCH!). But a little further down the page in the "You Might Also Like..." section, the Complete UFO Megaset is on sale for $55.96. Go figure...
Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: I just got a junk email from A&E about their spring sale, and I see that they are listing UFO as their 3rd best-selling "Cult TV" title. Amazing! Marc -- Cult TV Spring Sale: Current Best sellers: 1-The Saint Megaset DVD Collection http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6W0E8 2-Complete Space: 1999 DVD Megaset with Bonus DVD http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6Z0EC 3-UFO DVD set http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6c0EL -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Yes, it IS amazing that Space: 1999 is selling better then UFO : ) All the best, Branko To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:53:10 -0700 Subject: [SHADO] A&E Spring Sale - UFO on best-selling list! I just got a junk email from A&E about their spring sale, and I see that they are listing UFO as their 3rd best-selling "Cult TV" title. Amazing! Marc -- Cult TV Spring Sale: Current Best sellers: 1-The Saint Megaset DVD Collection http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6W0E8 2-Complete Space: 1999 DVD Megaset with Bonus DVD http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6Z0EC 3-UFO DVD set http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6c0EL -- _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
It's a CRAZY world, Branko!
Branko Vekic <[hidden email]> wrote: Yes, it IS amazing that Space: 1999 is selling better then UFO : ) All the best, Branko To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:53:10 -0700 Subject: [SHADO] A&E Spring Sale - UFO on best-selling list! I just got a junk email from A&E about their spring sale, and I see that they are listing UFO as their 3rd best-selling "Cult TV" title. Amazing! Marc -- Cult TV Spring Sale: Current Best sellers: 1-The Saint Megaset DVD Collection http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6W0E8 2-Complete Space: 1999 DVD Megaset with Bonus DVD http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6Z0EC 3-UFO DVD set http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6c0EL -- __________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Meh...
richard curzon <[hidden email]> wrote: From my point of view, I am not supprised at all. 1999 (first series) is less dated and a better series (I still love UFO though). Rick Branko Vekic <[hidden email]> wrote: Yes, it IS amazing that Space: 1999 is selling better then UFO : ) All the best, Branko To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:53:10 -0700 Subject: [SHADO] A&E Spring Sale - UFO on best-selling list! I just got a junk email from A&E about their spring sale, and I see that they are listing UFO as their 3rd best-selling "Cult TV" title. Amazing! Marc -- Cult TV Spring Sale: Current Best sellers: 1-The Saint Megaset DVD Collection http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6W0E8 2-Complete Space: 1999 DVD Megaset with Bonus DVD http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6Z0EC 3-UFO DVD set http://newsletters.aetv.com/cgi-bin15/DM/y/eb1r0DzSkf0F4B0j6c0EL -- __________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good helps you make a difference [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> From my point of view, I am not supprised at all. 1999 (first series) is
> less dated and a better series (I still love UFO though). I find that in the USA, SPACE:1999 is better remembered than UFO is... it must have been broadcast at better times, or on more channels than UFO was... (or had better advertising?). Marc |
That's definitely it. As I remember UFO only ran as a summer replacement here in the US with an early evening (dinner time) time slot, not the best. Space 1999 ran for 2 or 3 seasons (don't remember which) in regular seasons (Sept - June) not just as a single summers replacement like UFO. The Prisoner also got the same bad scheduling treatment here during the summer of '67. It only became really popular here when it was re-run years later on Public Television with a proper evening timeslot. I wish the same would happen for UFO.
Brian C. Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > From my point of view, I am not supprised at all. 1999 (first series) is > less dated and a better series (I still love UFO though). I find that in the USA, SPACE:1999 is better remembered than UFO is... it must have been broadcast at better times, or on more channels than UFO was... (or had better advertising?). Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Linking to the other thread currently running on Space 1999 vs UFO,
some more reasons I think the former is better remembered in the U.S could be * American Actors. Like many ITC live action series, the inclusion of American actors in lead roles was felt to be key to getting a U.S sale of the show. Space 1999 had the advantage in that American actors, well known from classic series, were cast in the lead parts. Martin Landau & Barbara Bain from 'Mission Impossible', and Barry Morse, though from New Zealand, starred in 'The Fugitive' for many years. In contrast, UFO's lead Ed Bishop, was perhaps at the time more of an emerging actor, less well known in the U.S. * Setting. Space 1999 is set on the Moon, in deep space and on extra- terrestrial planets. UFO is largely set in a recognisable Britain, and is perhaps thought of as more of a 'British' series than Space 1999. (despite the presence of British character actors in many of the Space 1999 episodes) * Cancellation. Space 1999 did enough to get commissioned for (in my opinion) a poorer second series. The show thus ran twice as long and thus the public consciousness of the show would be higher. It's also more recent. UFO was cancelled after one season, largely because of U.S ratings falling off I believe. I wonder whether this was anything to do with the more psychological subject material of several of the latter episodes of UFO, requiring a higher degree of audience engagement than other contemporary sci-fi shows. --- In [hidden email], Brian Clarke <601now@...> wrote: > > That's definitely it. As I remember UFO only ran as a summer replacement here in the US with an early evening (dinner time) time slot, not the best. Space 1999 ran for 2 or 3 seasons (don't remember which) in regular seasons (Sept - June) not just as a single summers replacement like UFO. The Prisoner also got the same bad scheduling treatment here during the summer of '67. It only became really popular here when it was re-run years later on Public Television with a proper evening timeslot. I wish the same would happen for UFO. > Brian C. > > Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > From my point of view, I am not supprised at all. 1999 (first series) is > > less dated and a better series (I still love UFO though). > > I find that in the USA, SPACE:1999 is better remembered than UFO is... > it must have been broadcast at better times, or on more channels than > UFO was... (or had better advertising?). > > Marc > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
All very good points. Additionally, Martin Landau and Babara Bain went on an extensive promotional tour of all the major talk shows of the day promoting Space 1999 before it ever aired.
The time slot that UFO was shoved in, as a summer replacement, was previously filled by a variety show (music/dance/comedy). The folks normally tuning in at that time would not (in my opinion) be a prime audience for UFO. I think most folks who really took an interest in the show did not find it for some time. I think in the end it comes down to UFO was very poorly marketed and promoted. Perhaps Space 1999's greater success was largely in part to the lessons learned with UFO. Brian C. Dave_Copley <[hidden email]> wrote: Linking to the other thread currently running on Space 1999 vs UFO, some more reasons I think the former is better remembered in the U.S could be * American Actors. Like many ITC live action series, the inclusion of American actors in lead roles was felt to be key to getting a U.S sale of the show. Space 1999 had the advantage in that American actors, well known from classic series, were cast in the lead parts. Martin Landau & Barbara Bain from 'Mission Impossible', and Barry Morse, though from New Zealand, starred in 'The Fugitive' for many years. In contrast, UFO's lead Ed Bishop, was perhaps at the time more of an emerging actor, less well known in the U.S. * Setting. Space 1999 is set on the Moon, in deep space and on extra- terrestrial planets. UFO is largely set in a recognisable Britain, and is perhaps thought of as more of a 'British' series than Space 1999. (despite the presence of British character actors in many of the Space 1999 episodes) * Cancellation. Space 1999 did enough to get commissioned for (in my opinion) a poorer second series. The show thus ran twice as long and thus the public consciousness of the show would be higher. It's also more recent. UFO was cancelled after one season, largely because of U.S ratings falling off I believe. I wonder whether this was anything to do with the more psychological subject material of several of the latter episodes of UFO, requiring a higher degree of audience engagement than other contemporary sci-fi shows. --- In [hidden email], Brian Clarke <601now@...> wrote: > > That's definitely it. As I remember UFO only ran as a summer replacement here in the US with an early evening (dinner time) time slot, not the best. Space 1999 ran for 2 or 3 seasons (don't remember which) in regular seasons (Sept - June) not just as a single summers replacement like UFO. The Prisoner also got the same bad scheduling treatment here during the summer of '67. It only became really popular here when it was re-run years later on Public Television with a proper evening timeslot. I wish the same would happen for UFO. > Brian C. > > Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > From my point of view, I am not supprised at all. 1999 (first series) is > > less dated and a better series (I still love UFO though). > > I find that in the USA, SPACE:1999 is better remembered than UFO is... > it must have been broadcast at better times, or on more channels than > UFO was... (or had better advertising?). > > Marc > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> The time slot that UFO was shoved in, as a summer replacement, was
> previously filled by a variety show (music/dance/comedy). Note that UFO was not a summer replacement everywhere in the USA. In my area, it was shown on Sunday nights at 7pm on the local ABC affiliate, and it started airing in September with the rest of the shows. Marc |
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I recall that the show began in September 1970 and was on Saturday at
6:00pm in New York (WOR, channel 9). It ran repeats for at least 2 years and served as a lead in for several forgettable ITV Sc-Fi shows. In a message dated 4/18/2008 3:18:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Note that UFO was not a summer replacement everywhere in the USA. In my area, it was shown on Sunday nights at 7pm on the local ABC affiliate, and it started airing in September with the rest of the shows. Marc **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I think UFO didn't do as well as Space 1999 becuase of its
complex 'adult' themes and dialogue. They probably aired when mostly kids would be watching and, let's face it, the storylines are a bit more cerebral than Space 1999. Mark http://www.eagletransporter.com/forum/ Classic British Sci Fi Hardware Forum ------------------------------------- |
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Barry Morse was born and raised in the UK, not New Zealand.
Rick Dave_Copley <[hidden email]> wrote: Linking to the other thread currently running on Space 1999 vs UFO, some more reasons I think the former is better remembered in the U.S could be * American Actors. Like many ITC live action series, the inclusion of American actors in lead roles was felt to be key to getting a U.S sale of the show. Space 1999 had the advantage in that American actors, well known from classic series, were cast in the lead parts. Martin Landau & Barbara Bain from 'Mission Impossible', and Barry Morse, though from New Zealand, starred in 'The Fugitive' for many years. In contrast, UFO's lead Ed Bishop, was perhaps at the time more of an emerging actor, less well known in the U.S. |
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The first series of Space 1999 was much more existential and cerebral than UFO. It played around with metaphysics quite a bit. UFO is bascically a live-action version of Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons (1967), filtered through Doppelganger (1968). It even looks like the Supermarionation stuff!
Rick etdc1999 <[hidden email]> wrote: I think UFO didn't do as well as Space 1999 becuase of its complex 'adult' themes and dialogue. They probably aired when mostly kids would be watching and, let's face it, the storylines are a bit more cerebral than Space 1999. Mark http://www.eagletransporter.com/forum/ Classic British Sci Fi Hardware Forum ------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good helps you make a difference [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Wendy!
How SURE are you of that timeframe?? Everywhere I've read says basically, "UFO was filmed in 1969-70, and began broadcasting in September 1970 in England and September 1972 in America." But I too remember watching UFO BEFORE the fall of 1972, here in Milwaukee. I remember it was either the fall of 1970 or 1971, on Sunday afternoons (either on PBS, or one of the 2 smaller UHF stations, can't recall). I was always stuck watching UFO on the little 12" black & white TV on the 'snack bar' in our kitchen, while the parents watched football on the color TV in the living room. We moved to a new home in June 1972, and got rid of the B&W TV just before we did. So I HAD to be watching before the fall of 1972. But the almost zero info I can find on the internet says I must be mistaken (but I SWEAR I'm not). Jeff [hidden email] wrote: I recall that the show began in September 1970 and was on Saturday at 6:00pm in New York (WOR, channel 9). It ran repeats for at least 2 years and served as a lead in for several forgettable ITV Sc-Fi shows. In a message dated 4/18/2008 3:18:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Note that UFO was not a summer replacement everywhere in the USA. In my area, it was shown on Sunday nights at 7pm on the local ABC affiliate, and it started airing in September with the rest of the shows. Marc **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I'm 35 years removed from the nerd I was in my single digit years. I think
it's very possible that I got the date wrong. If you are right, then it's kind of depressing that the show was pretty much canceled before it even made it to the US. :( Wendy In a message dated 4/18/2008 8:40:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Hi Wendy! How SURE are you of that timeframe?? Everywhere I've read says basically, "UFO was filmed in 1969-70, and began broadcasting in September 1970 in England and September 1972 in America." But I too remember watching UFO BEFORE the fall of 1972, here in Milwaukee. I remember it was either the fall of 1970 or 1971, on Sunday afternoons (either on PBS, or one of the 2 smaller UHF stations, can't recall). I was always stuck watching UFO on the little 12" black & white TV on the 'snack bar' in our kitchen, while the parents watched football on the color TV in the living room. We moved to a new home in June 1972, and got rid of the B&W TV just before we did. So I HAD to be watching before the fall of 1972. But the almost zero info I can find on the internet says I must be mistaken (but I SWEAR I'm not). Jeff _wenrose222@aol.wen_ (mailto:[hidden email]) wrote: I recall that the show began in September 1970 and was on Saturday at 6:00pm in New York (WOR, channel 9). It ran repeats for at least 2 years and served as a lead in for several forgettable ITV Sc-Fi shows. In a message dated 4/18/2008 3:18:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _marc@ufoseries.mar_ (mailto:[hidden email]) writes: Note that UFO was not a summer replacement everywhere in the USA. In my area, it was shown on Sunday nights at 7pm on the local ABC affiliate, and it started airing in September with the rest of the shows. Marc ************************<WBR>**Need a new ride? Check out the largest site f listings at AOL Autos. (_http://autos.http://autos.http://autos.<WBhttp://au_ (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> If you are right, then it's kind of depressing that the show was
> pretty much canceled before it even made it to the US. :( Actually, it was the US broadcasts in 1972 that almost brought UFO back for a second season! The ratings were good enough initially that they started work on UFO season 2, but then the ratings dropped and they changed their minds. This led to the development of SPACE:1999 in 1973. Marc |
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> > If you are right, then it's kind of depressing that the show was > > pretty much canceled before it even made it to the US. :( > > Actually, it was the US broadcasts in 1972 that almost brought > UFO back for a second season! The ratings were good enough > initially that they started work on UFO season 2, but then > the ratings dropped and they changed their minds. This > led to the development of SPACE:1999 in 1973. Why is UFO not rebroadcast? Too expensive? You'd think lower-budget specialty stations like Canada's Space channel would be showing it along with Space:1999 (yes, I've emailed them about it already). Paul Calgary |
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> Why is UFO not rebroadcast? Too expensive?
Uhh, it *is* being broadcast -- in the US, it's being shown on Family Room HD, and in the UK, it's being shown on ITV4. Marc |
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