Ed Bishop First Person Quiz

ultramannick <[hidden email]>
answered bedsitter's comment:
><<We look beyond surfaces, we find
>him attractive, we aren't concerned about age, we
>cherish being his
>friends or fans, we value his soul. >>
>
>That smells of idol worship, IMO.

Actually, he's an atheist. To him, he doesn't have a soul.
Denise

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Hi all,

A couple of weeks ago there was a brief discussion of the theme for
the second series of the Japanese series "Big O", and a brief clip
from the theme was heard. I bought the soundtrack CD and the CD
single from this show, and one of the most glaring ripoff parts we
didn't hear before is at the very end. Listen:

http://ufoseries.com/bigo.mp3

The above is from the CD single, which also contains the theme from
the first series, which is a glaring ripoff of Queen's "Flash Gordon"
theme. The Big O soundtrack album has a much longer version of the
above UFO theme, and then a couple reworked, slower variations as
well (kind of like the UFO theme had a few variations heard in the
series).

Marc

ultramannick <[hidden email]>
kindly wrote:
>I think the previous poster was saying that perhaps
>they were disappointed that Ed the man was not like Ed
>the character that they watched on TV. That is the
>problem in most convention situations; fans cannot
>seperate the actors from the characters they play on
>TV.

Actually, the main reason I never wanted to meet Ed Bishop was because I
knew very well that he was NOT like the character Straker, having seen him
in other movies, read interviews, etc. However, several of you guys
informed me before last year's Con that he was "such a great guy" that I was
quite startled by his coldness. Since absolutely no one else at the Con
reacted to the fans that way, I'm forced to agree with his own description
of himself. And no, it wasn't just me who found him that way. Complaints
were rampant among the fans throughout the Con about his lack of
professionalism. (But you're right about crazy fans who don't know a great
character from a great person. There were the usual number of psychotic
women running everywhere trying to stand close to him.) I spent my time
more wisely, talking to David Lane, Gerry Anderson, and Dolores Mantez, who
were a lot of fun. And the other fans at the Con were by far the neatest
people I've met yet at a Sci-fi Con, so I had a wonderful time. In fact,
the only blot in the entire weekend was meeting Bishop. But I appreciate
your sympathy, even if it was misplaced in this instance.
Denise


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I would think that after thirty years he might just be a little bored and
give little importance to the raving of fans. Remember that we UFO fans saw
a different product than the actors did. Being on the inside isn't the same
as watching from the outside, and to them at the time it was just another
job. I could easily understand that someone has little "passion" for a job
hey did 30 years ago.... He shows up because it's expected, anticipated, and
perhaps is convinced he should...that doesn't mean he truly wants to be there
30 years later...

Mary

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From: Denise Felt [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sun 3/23/2003 9:02 AM
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ultramannick <[hidden email]>
kindly wrote:
>I think the previous poster was saying that perhaps
>they were disappointed that Ed the man was not like Ed
>the character that they watched on TV. That is the
>problem in most convention situations; fans cannot
>seperate the actors from the characters they play on
>TV.

Actually, the main reason I never wanted to meet Ed Bishop was
because I
knew very well that he was NOT like the character Straker, having
seen him
in other movies, read interviews, etc. However, several of you guys
informed me before last year's Con that he was "such a great guy"
that I was
quite startled by his coldness. Since absolutely no one else at the
Con
reacted to the fans that way, I'm forced to agree with his own
description
of himself. And no, it wasn't just me who found him that way.
Complaints
were rampant among the fans throughout the Con about his lack of
professionalism. (But you're right about crazy fans who don't know a
great
character from a great person. There were the usual number of
psychotic
women running everywhere trying to stand close to him.) I spent my
time
more wisely, talking to David Lane, Gerry Anderson, and Dolores
Mantez, who
were a lot of fun. And the other fans at the Con were by far the
neatest
people I've met yet at a Sci-fi Con, so I had a wonderful time. In
fact,
the only blot in the entire weekend was meeting Bishop. But I
appreciate
your sympathy, even if it was misplaced in this instance.
Denise


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Marc Martin wrote:
> >Hm, sounds like Bill Shatner. A jerk off stage, jovial
> >on stage.
>
> I didn't find him to be a jerk at all when I saw him at Century
> 21. He seemed like he was being nice & friendly with everyone. I
> think he must be moody or something, because sometimes we hear
> good things at one con, and then other times we had bad things at
> another con.
>

When I met him by chance about 18 months ago, I definitely
didn't get the impression that he was a 'jerk'. He looked a
little wary when I went up to say hi, but I didn't have an
anorak on at the time, and once he realised that I was normal
and just wanted to exchange a few words, (yes, normal) he was
very polite and friendly.

SciFi fans can be a bit obsessive and I'm sure he has an
understandable fear of being engaged in conversation by
complete strangers about alien spacesuits or his favourite
Nehru.

But he's only human, and I'm sure he CAN be an ass at times,
same as everyone else. Even I can.

"MCCAUG" wrote:
> It's really too bad that our hero in real life isn't that nice. or doesn't
> seem to be. I'm always disappointed if people I admire turn out to be turds
> (can I say that on this site?). I've heard tons of bad press about Shatner,
> who has been, of late, trying to correct his public persona and even doing
> movies based on spoofing himself. Altho I've never met Mike Billington in
> person, his e-mails show a sense of humour and he answers them post-haste

As a matter of fact, I think that Michael's emails may be 'ghost-written' by
somebody else, a chap called Michael Mannion.

"Griff" wrote:
> Er.. correction... "some" 'fans cannot seem to seperate the
> actors from the characters they play on TV' ;)
>

That's true, George Sewell said the same thing in an interview
years ago, and at one time he didn't do conventions for that
reason. UFO was a job to him, he just learned his lines and
did his stuff in front of the camera. He was considerably less
interested in UFO from a fan's perspective than any of us!

"Denise Felt" wrote:

> Actually, he's an atheist. To him, he doesn't have a soul.
> Denise
>

I'm an atheist too, but I've got one. It's just a combination
of consciousness, personality and emotions.

"See the indiviual strands in Lt. Ellis' bra", what are you talking about
Doug?
We had several episodes of UFO with ladies in there underwear but to the best
of my now corrected memory Gay Ellis wasn't one of them. Or do you mean with
this incredible home theatre system you have that you can see the this
showing through her clothes or unifrom or perhaps you are from the planet
Krypton?

James K.


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"Veres, Mary" <[hidden email]>
wrote:
>I would think that after thirty years he might just be a little bored and
>give little importance to the raving of fans. Remember that we UFO fans
>saw
>a different product than the actors did. Being on the inside isn't the
>same
>as watching from the outside, and to them at the time it was just another
>job. I could easily understand that someone has little "passion" for a job
>hey did 30 years ago....

Yeah, but Mary, why go at all if you don't want to be there? I go to Cons
all the time, and have only once before met an actor who forgot their
professionalism in front of the fans like Bishop did. And I was just as
pissed about her as I was about him. Fans are willing to shell out a lot of
money to meet the stars and get their memorabilia signed. It's just common
courtesy to behave yourself for their sakes. It's what the whole Con is
about, after all. Normally at a Con, you can expect to meet some actors who
are aloof, some who are friendly, and some who want to know your life story.
At the Fanderson Con, nearly everyone I met (including the fans
themselves--- Hi, Dave, Mike and Kez!) was in the final category. Except
Bishop. So it was glaringly obvious, and not just to me. Grumbles were
heard throughout the Con about his churlishness. It was a shame. And as
for actors from shows over thirty years ago, Nichelle Nichols, George Takei,
and Jimmy Doohan were all very pleased to talk to the fans, in spite of not
being able to remember any of their old scenes! *grin*
Yours,
Denise

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<<I go to
Cons
all the time, and have only once before met an actor
who forgot their
professionalism in front of the fans like Bishop did.
>>

Who what that? Who???

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I don't know when this "incident" with Ed Bishop might have happen if it
happen at all but is very possible that it might have been the around the
time his son was killed in that auto accident. If so I could see why he
might not be the warmest of persons to be around. Grief does strange things
to people.

James K.


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> So it was glaringly obvious, and not just to me. Grumbles were
> heard throughout the Con about his churlishness. It was a shame


Hi everyone,

As someone who knows Ed and has been on the organising Fanderson committee of
some of the cons he attended I can only say that he has always maintained a
professional approach to his fans and I feel that he would probably be a
little upset if he knew he'd caused someone to feel disgruntled. All I can
say in his defence (not that he needs defending) is that at 70 years of age,
he may - just may - have been feeling a little under the weather, as I was
not there I cannot comment properly. I do know what you mean about feeling
disgruntled as I met another *70's star* a year or so ago and stood waiting
outside the venue for a good hour or so only for this chap to almost walk
past me without a word, now that was bad manners and the guy was really rude
when I asked for his autograph and he didn't say a word just signed it gave
me the pen back and walked away.

I'm sure that if you go to another con where Ed is attending (and don't go
expecting him to be rude) I'm sure you'll have a different experience. Ed
Bishop is, and always has been a gentleman and a really nice man, honestly.
I don't know what may have upset him at this particular convention but
something obviously did - have the committee looked into it at all?

As for his Straker mannerisms, I see them every time I meet him, especially
when he is seen from the back, that straight posture (especially if he is in
a cream suit).

Bye for now.



Claire







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Hi Marc,

I recently received the entire set of Konami candy UFO figures/craft, and I
have one question, my Konami Gay Ellis looks a lot taller and slimmer that
the examples in the photos on you website. Even allowing for some distortion
and angular perspective in the images.

My Konami Gay Ellis is 123mm (4.75") tall and 51mm (2") from elbow tip to
elbow tip. What's yours?

Is it possible (although hugely, massively unlikely) that there is more than
one version?

Later,

Griff

In a message dated 23/03/03 16:58:17 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]
writes:


> but is very possible that it might have been the around the
> time his son was killed in that auto accident

This incident happened in January 1988.




Claire






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<<Actually, he's an atheist. To him, he doesn't have
a soul.>>

Hm, weird. Poor guy.

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I always thought it was an odd and sad bit of cruel fate that Ed Bishop
played a man who lost his only son, and in real life, he lost his only son.
Strange, that. Pam

I apologise if this is old news. I see that A&E have a release date
[29/4/]and a picture of the artwork for the Supercar box set up on
thier website, URL below.

http://store.aetv.com/html/catalog/s03.jhtml;jsessionid=ZRYW1ZB3ZYL3YQ
OXHDECCASB022MOIY4?search=supercar&x=22&y=5

The Lunadude.

Having met Ed Bishop at the 2000 Fanderson convention in Coventry and the
2002 convention as well, I can say that he was much more friendly and willing
to mingle during the 2000 convention. He made himself more available to the
convention guests in 2000 whereas he seemed to surface only for specific
assigned lectures, signings and events in 2002. I would also say that he
didn't seem as interested in being there in 2002 (almost like he woke up that
weekend and didn't feel like going). I can only speak for myself but I would
lose count of how many weekends I had made plans and I wished I could get out
of them. Maybe Ed is human like the rest of us and just wasn't "in the mood"
to mingle that weekend?

Lorraine

Marc Martin wrote:
I didn't find him to be a jerk at all when I saw himat Century 21. He seemed
like he was being nice & friendly with everyone. I think he must be moody or
something, because sometimes we hear good things at one con, and then other
times we had bad things at another con.

> Marc

>My Konami Gay Ellis is 123mm (4.75") tall and 51mm (2") from elbow tip to
>elbow tip. What's yours?


Those dimensions match my Konami Lt. Ellis as well.

But I agree, the photos don't look the same as the real thing -- I
guess it's true when they say that the camera adds 10 pounds... :-)

Marc