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Okay, I get it now. You're one of those scary weird people, similar to the 'Trekkies' we have here in the US. ; ) Pretty wild, Philippa! : ) I like it!

Jeff

Philippa Timms <[hidden email]> wrote:


hehe ever since moving to the Isle of Wight. Being told by the Dr to tke
things easy...that's a Dr Dr. No I havn't a Tardis in the house but I have
Installed Sky tv and a multi regional dvd and the computer. I don't seem to
get to the fan gatherings much. This is it. But I have met Gerry Anderson.
Met Ed Bishop while trying to look 'normal' dressed as Captain Black. At the
last UFO convention. I think I'm still on the Fanderson tape of UFORIA
eighty something. Dressed as a UFO alien. I assure you are quite safe. In
that suit you can't your feet and after three steps they will fall on
their....:)



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Karen,

I would never throw anything in anyone's face. I was repeating something that someone had told me when I first joined the group. In another group that I belong too a newbie asked a question about Space 1999. They wanted to compare Space 1999 with Battlestar Galactica. We(the group ) had already discussed this "ad nauseum" and it led to a 4 wk post pile up like you would not believe. I had to delete about 60 posts because I got sick of the comparison. If the newbie had checked the archives they would have read all the messages. In UFO we had a newbie ask about a new version using CGI. We went over that last month. I never meant to offend anyone. I enjoy this group immensely.

raribear <[hidden email]> wrote:



--- In [hidden email], legg bryan wrote:
> HI, I am also not tech minded but story minded. You can
bring up any topic you want just ck the old messages in the history
section to make sure you are not repeating something we have
discussed ad nauseum. Welcome to the club.
>

You know what, I've tried that. For example before I posted my
question about Straker's wig I tried searching the archives. I got
zero hits but I'm sure it's in there somewhere.

I considered reading the archives however with over 17,000 posts I
just don't have the time. Could be other people are better at
searching than I am because I can't seem to pull up stuff I want. I
think unless you know the exact wording it's not going to happen.

Maybe someone would give me some clues as to what I'm doing wrong?

Beside which if new members don't ask questions then what is there
left to talk about? When you get a chat group that has been going as
long as this one and it's about a subject that was limited in scope
(1 year) you're bound to run out of things to say.

What your ad nauseum message is telling me is that "We've already
discussed the issue and we don't care what you have to say. Your
enthusiasm, experiences and insights don't matter to us so don't
bother posting. Oh and by the way welcome". It's like a glass of cold
water being thrown in your face.

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I've got a reputation for it here. One Christmas we had a fancy dress day in
our Supermarket where I work. I more or less like a Moonbase operative. One
customer looked and me and said 'Well you could have made an effort and come
in fancy dress like everyone else.' I wonder what she knows?

If you want to try my advice is...get a costume that when you are in it no
one knows its you...:) Deny everything! :)

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To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: New Member


>
>
> Okay, I get it now. You're one of those scary weird people, similar to
the 'Trekkies' we have here in the US. ; ) Pretty wild, Philippa! : ) I
like it!
>
> Jeff
>
> Philippa Timms <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> hehe ever since moving to the Isle of Wight. Being told by the Dr to tke
> things easy...that's a Dr Dr. No I havn't a Tardis in the house but I have
> Installed Sky tv and a multi regional dvd and the computer. I don't seem
to
> get to the fan gatherings much. This is it. But I have met Gerry Anderson.
> Met Ed Bishop while trying to look 'normal' dressed as Captain Black. At
the

>I never meant to offend anyone. I enjoy this group immensely.

Okay thanks for your concern, sorry to have read your post wrong but
it seemed rather abrupt. It's hard to interpret email because there
are no tonal qualities to it. Little smilie type icons help to convey
mood sometimes but are limited.

I still maintain that it's hard to search the archives. I haven't
come up with a hit yet.

Another factor to consider is the search time involved. With 17,000
messages it only searches so many at a time. It's just very
inefficient unless, as I say, I'm doing something wrong.

I guess the best solution if a topic bothers someone or is old is to
not contribute but I'm sure not everyone feels this way and some like
to rehash old issues.

Or perhaps it could be gently pointed out to the newbie where in the
archives to look. I asked a question on the EdBishopFans site about
how many grandkids Ed had and someone responded to me much the same
way - go look in the archives. She did mention the post number where
I could read the conversation about that topic.

If she hadn't given me the exact number I would never have found it
because it didn't matter how many variations on grandkids I typed in,
that particular post didn't show (or any others). I had to go into
the archives month by month searching for post 2157. It was a pain in
the butt to put it quite bluntly.

Karen

I had to go into
> the archives month by month searching for post 2157. It was a pain
in the butt to put it quite bluntly.
>


Amelia was kind enough to point out the "message # box" for me which
I could almost swear I tried. Now that I think of it I tried this the
day they switched over to the new format for Yahoo groups. Maybe it
was a bug? Heaven forbid I was dumb enough to overlook it and only
use
the "Search messages box" instead. (knocks head repeatedly against
desk top).

Karen

--- In [hidden email], "raribear" <ar_fan@h...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Or perhaps it could be gently pointed out to the newbie where in the
> archives to look. I asked a question on the EdBishopFans site about
> how many grandkids Ed had.

If you wish to search, another method I have tried is to not just
search Yahoo, but do a Google search.It found pages on Ed's wig,
including those from Marc's sites and also has subjects on his
grandchildren listed. Mind you there are other Ed Bishops in the world
which you will get(not as important as ours, of course). Fortunately
not too many bishops have grandchildren.
As you suggest, the search wording is critical In the Google search,as
a test, I entered "Ed Bishop Wig" and "Ed Bishop's Grandchildren". If
you enter "Ed Bishop's Wig" rather than the former wording, you get
subjects about -- you guessed it -- bishop's wigs, which it seems they
wear. Hope this helps a bit.
Does anyone else feel like me about this new Yahoo format?
Reading from the bottom-upwards is just a pain, who thought of this
anyway?

Regards, Kevin.

--- In [hidden email], "croprobz" <croprobz@y...> wrote:
>

> As you suggest, the search wording is critical In the Google
search,as
> a test, I entered "Ed Bishop Wig" and "Ed Bishop's Grandchildren".

Sorry, I don't like responding to my own posts, but that search should
read "Ed Bishop Grandchildren" that is, no "'s" added at all.
There is at least one web page on this subject.
Darn all those other Ed Bishop imposters!!
If you think that web searching is hard, try looking for 80's
group/singer(s) "The The"!

Kevin.

--- In [hidden email], Jeffrey Nelson <1shado1@s...> wrote:
> I had heard somewhere that Keith Alexander (Lt. Ford) provided the
voice for that silly mouse puppet Topo Gigio that used to appear on The
Ed Sullivan Show in the sixties.

Sooo! Now I finally know who Tim Allen was referring to in "The Santa
Clause" in the interrogation scene! The things you learn from UFO --
isn't it amazing? *grin*

And thanks, Marc, for having us all on! Cool April Fools move, BTW!
Yours,
Denise

Jeffrey Nelson wrote:
>
> Was that an attempt at humor, or are you another tight *ss? : )

I'd certainly say mine was a bit tight last week in the Shado gun
discussion.
Apologies to Gordon and anyone else who might have been offended.
AT

--- In [hidden email], "Philippa Timms" <febonefour.teenth@b...>
wrote:
> If you want to try my advice is...get a costume that when you are in
it no
> one knows its you...:) Deny everything! :)

Philippa,
Way fun with the Moonbase costume! Actually, I got a Purple wig once
and tried it on for my kids just to see if they liked the look on me.
And they freaked out and said I didn't even look remotely like myself!
And come to think of it, they were right! Needless to say, since I
never could figure out just who I DID look like in the thing, I never
wore it for Halloween or any sci-fi con. It sits in my closet and
waits for my ultimate decision.
Yours,
Denise

croprobz wrote:
> If you think that web searching is hard, try looking for 80's
> group/singer(s) "The The"!

Or the early 1970's NBC TV Series "Search."
;)

--- In [hidden email], "croprobz" <croprobz@y...> wrote:

> If you wish to search, another method I have tried is to not just
> search Yahoo, but do a Google search.It found pages on Ed's wig,
> including those from Marc's sites and also has subjects on his
> grandchildren listed. Mind you there are other Ed Bishops in the
world
> which you will get(not as important as ours, of course).
Fortunately
> not too many bishops have grandchildren.
> As you suggest, the search wording is critical In the Google
search,as
> a test, I entered "Ed Bishop Wig" and "Ed Bishop's Grandchildren".
If
> you enter "Ed Bishop's Wig" rather than the former wording, you get
> subjects about -- you guessed it -- bishop's wigs, which it seems
they
> wear. Hope this helps a bit.
> Does anyone else feel like me about this new Yahoo format?
> Reading from the bottom-upwards is just a pain, who thought of this
> anyway?
>
> Regards, Kevin.

Thank you Kevin I'll try as you suggest. I would never have thought
that one letter would make a differnce but I guess it does. As far as
Yahoo is concerned it does seem backwards but at least they fixed the
next button, that was driving me crazy. Clicking on the next button
and getting the previous post was doing a job on my mind. I guess I'm
not that flexible.

Karen

I myself understand completely. I'm starting to get tight *ssed in anticipation of the release of the stands for the PE Skydiver! ; )

Jeff

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Jeffrey Nelson wrote:
>
> Was that an attempt at humor, or are you another tight *ss? : )

I'd certainly say mine was a bit tight last week in the Shado gun
discussion.
Apologies to Gordon and anyone else who might have been offended.
AT




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Legg Bryan wrote: I am also not tech minded but story minded. You
can bring up any topic you want just ck the old messages in the
history section to make sure you are not repeating something we have
discussed ad nauseum. Welcome to the club.

Hi and thanks for the welcome! As a newbie, any advice on how to go
about posting is gratefully received. I said I wasn't technically
minded because my first impression reading recent posts were that
SHADO discussions concerned mainly SFX and models/collector's items,
to which I felt I could contribute little. Going back further in the
archives, I found the episode discussions that had created threads
discussing characters and storylines, to which I could have added
some original comments!! Hence my wondering whether there was any
plan to restart episode discussions in the future, as this seemed an
effective way to open up a variety of discussions, both about the
shows 'hardware' and 'software'.


D. Persica wrote; After all, we're here to have fun, right? This
isn't a scholarly or scientific discussion group for professionals.
It's something we do in our lesiure time. So we shouldn't complain
if part of our lesiure time is being taken up by a topic that
already was discussed four years ago, or whatever. Relax, have fun.

I'm so glad you've said this! Reading all the responses, I was taken
aback by the depth of feeling caused. I'm definately here to have
fun and not get heavy about anything. It's just great to have a
chance to discuss UFO with others, after years of talking to no-one
about it, because I know no-one else who is interested.
Incidentally, I noticed that there are over 900 members of this
group - yet it seems only a handful of people post regularly. Surely
the more members that post messages, the greater the chances of a
variety of subjects and opinions? Perhaps it has all been said
before, or maybe members discuss things off- group?


Marc Martin wrote; If a new member would like to quickly check for
any topic that might be deemed by someone to be "over discussed",
I'd suggest looking at my UFO series frequently asked questions
page; http://ufoseries.com/faq.html. That should only take a minute
to find anything, and if it's not there, then I don't see how anyone
could say that it's been over discussed.

This seems fair; I'll go and check it out. Thanks Marc.


Sarah

> Hence my wondering whether there was any
> plan to restart episode discussions in the future, as this seemed an
> effective way to open up a variety of discussions, both about the
> shows 'hardware' and 'software'.

There is no official "plan" to restart the episode discussions,
however, if some member (new or old) wants to take charge and
start some up, please go right ahead! I've done this so many
times in the past that it probably would be better
to get someone new to give things a fresh perspective.

> Incidentally, I noticed that there are over 900 members of this
> group - yet it seems only a handful of people post regularly. Surely
> the more members that post messages, the greater the chances of a
> variety of subjects and opinions? Perhaps it has all been said
> before, or maybe members discuss things off- group?

I'm not exactly sure how many of those 900 are actually
"active members". Many people turn off the delivery of
messages, and yet remain a member of the group. And
some people's email addresses stop working, or they
stop reading email at that address, yet Yahoo still
thinks they are a member. The only way we could
see for sure is to shutdown this group and start
a new one. I'm sure we'd have far less than 900
people re-subscribe.

Besides, if you had 900 active participants, there
would be so many messages that many would have
to unsubscribe because they couldn't keep up with
the discussions.

Marc

Jeffrey Nelson wrote:
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> I myself understand completely. I'm starting to get tight *ssed in anticipation of the release of the stands for the PE Skydiver! ; )

Very soon now. Probably around the middle of this month they'll be ready.
AT

Sweet! Thanks for the update, AT.

Jeff

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Jeffrey Nelson wrote:
>
> I myself understand completely. I'm starting to get tight *ssed in anticipation of the release of the stands for the PE Skydiver! ; )

Very soon now. Probably around the middle of this month they'll be ready.
AT



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When I do a search I usually write something like "UFO tv series". Either UFO shows up or the show in the early 80's that was about project Bluebook which was called Project UFO. Good luck with the The. LOL

croprobz <[hidden email]> wrote:

--- In [hidden email], "croprobz" wrote:
>

> As you suggest, the search wording is critical In the Google
search,as
> a test, I entered "Ed Bishop Wig" and "Ed Bishop's Grandchildren".

Sorry, I don't like responding to my own posts, but that search should
read "Ed Bishop Grandchildren" that is, no "'s" added at all.
There is at least one web page on this subject.
Darn all those other Ed Bishop imposters!!
If you think that web searching is hard, try looking for 80's
group/singer(s) "The The"!

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Karen,
Maybe I should have said to go ahead and post and see what happens. Asking a question of the group does usually get answered better than how I answered you. I usually see what the subject is and then I respond if I am interested. I usually answer posts about episodes because I am not technical minded. I don't have the money to collect memorabilia but it is fun to see what is out there. I hope we can be friends and put any bad feelings behind us.

Sincerely Yours

Bryan Legg


>I never meant to offend anyone. I enjoy this group immensely.

Okay thanks for your concern, sorry to have read your post wrong but
it seemed rather abrupt. It's hard to interpret email because there
are no tonal qualities to it. Little smilie type icons help to convey
mood sometimes but are limited.

I still maintain that it's hard to search the archives. I haven't
come up with a hit yet.

Another factor to consider is the search time involved. With 17,000
messages it only searches so many at a time. It's just very
inefficient unless, as I say, I'm doing something wrong.

I guess the best solution if a topic bothers someone or is old is to
not contribute but I'm sure not everyone feels this way and some like
to rehash old issues.

Or perhaps it could be gently pointed out to the newbie where in the
archives to look. I asked a question on the EdBishopFans site about
how many grandkids Ed had and someone responded to me much the same
way - go look in the archives. She did mention the post number where
I could read the conversation about that topic.

If she hadn't given me the exact number I would never have found it
because it didn't matter how many variations on grandkids I typed in,
that particular post didn't show (or any others). I had to go into
the archives month by month searching for post 2157. It was a pain in
the butt to put it quite bluntly.

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Regarding some people only sporadically posting messages - sometimes if the subject is relevant to the USA - a personal appearance by a cast member, for example - then I, as someone living in the UK, don't feel that it is of interest to me, so I don't waste your time and mine replying. Also, if a subject comes up that I know little about, such as the recent debate about military ranks and their context in the SHADO organisation, then again it isn't something that I feel I can add to. Sometimes it will be the case that one doesn't have anything to say at the time, but that doesn't mean that I'm just going to sit reading the message traffic and not contribute at all.

I certainly hope that you're not going to implement "Washington Square" (Did I get the code phrase right?) and restart this group - you'd probably have to rename it, and as I have said in the past, I quite like being a member of SHADO. At least in this SHADO I don't have to wear the uniform - I don't think I have the figure for it these days!

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Incidentally, I noticed that there are over 900 members of this
> group - yet it seems only a handful of people post regularly. Surely
> the more members that post messages, the greater the chances of a
> variety of subjects and opinions? Perhaps it has all been said
> before, or maybe members discuss things off- group?

I'm not exactly sure how many of those 900 are actually
"active members". Many people turn off the delivery of
messages, and yet remain a member of the group. And
some people's email addresses stop working, or they
stop reading email at that address, yet Yahoo still
thinks they are a member. The only way we could
see for sure is to shutdown this group and start
a new one. I'm sure we'd have far less than 900
people re-subscribe.

Marc

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