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SHADO
Product Enterprise has lowered the MSRP of the Talking Gay Ellis
substantially:

http://www.productenterprise.com/acatalog/Gerry_Anderson.html

Must not be selling as well as hoped. Wonder if sellers on this side
of the pond will be following suit...

Jeff
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Re: PE Talking Gay Ellis

Marc Martin
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nafofu wrote:
> Product Enterprise has lowered the MSRP of the Talking Gay Ellis
> substantially:
>
> Must not be selling as well as hoped.

Yes, the reason that we are seeing all these heavily discounted
items from Product Enterprise is that they are not selling at
the original prices.

The bad news about this is that there won't be any more of
these sorts of items from Product Enterprise. They have
moved onto collectibles which are more limited, larger, and
much more expensive. :-(

Marc
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RE: PE Talking Gay Ellis

Branko

I have just seen that Comet miniatures announced clean version of SHADO Control Mobile sometimes in 2008. This is just great news...
All the best,
Branko







The bad news about this is that there won't be any more ofthese sorts of items from Product Enterprise. They havemoved onto collectibles which are more limited, larger, andmuch more expensive. :-(Marc






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DEREK BROOME
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Yes I have been reading the blogs about the quality ot Thunderbird 2. Does not sound like these will be selling either!!

Derek

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
nafofu wrote:
> Product Enterprise has lowered the MSRP of the Talking Gay Ellis
> substantially:
>
> Must not be selling as well as hoped.

Yes, the reason that we are seeing all these heavily discounted
items from Product Enterprise is that they are not selling at
the original prices.

The bad news about this is that there won't be any more of
these sorts of items from Product Enterprise. They have
moved onto collectibles which are more limited, larger, and
much more expensive. :-(

Marc





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DEREK BROOME
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I read somewhere that there is an Americal selling cleaned up versions on ebay for a very reasonalbe price, pretty much what you would buy them for dirty!

I will try to track him down and pass on any info.

Derek

Branko Vekic <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have just seen that Comet miniatures announced clean version of SHADO Control Mobile sometimes in 2008. This is just great news...
All the best,
Branko

The bad news about this is that there won't be any more ofthese sorts of items from Product Enterprise. They havemoved onto collectibles which are more limited, larger, andmuch more expensive. :-(Marc

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UFO in (sort of) HD

Branko
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I can see that there was no reactions on my statement that Charlton UFO DVD set looks great upscaled by Playstation 3 watched on 52" 1080p TV. It really does! I just watched "The Dalotek Affair" and I was blown away by the detail and quality... Not many DVD's look good when upscaled, but UFO set is great, and if it is never published in HD I will be completely satisfied with this. It really looks better than many films on Blu Ray or HD DVD (real 1080p). And, to tell you something, it looks way better and sharper than Network's "Space: 1999" remastered set. Much, much better, with more detail and sharpness. After the surprise with "The Dalotek Affair", I immediately ran Network set to see if it is any better (if it is possible) and find out that it was way too soft, compared to UFO (and still much better than many upscaled big budget Hollywood movie DVD's)... My only objection is that some underwater scenes in main titles on UFO set have some compression artefacts, but it is neglectable and I am sure the real HD material would have the same problems...
All the best,
Branko






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etdc1999
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Good prices there but I don't see PE's retailers seeing the funny
side...

Mark
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comeinmobile2
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I did a search for blogs/info and didn't come upon anything. Can you
provide some pointers on where to look about the quality issues with
TB2?

I don't know if manufacturing of large scale studio scale replicas is
just in its infancy or what, but when you hear all the issues wrt the
Master Replicas Enterprise, and now this wrt TB2, it's tremendously
disappointing.

I can barely afford a studio scale model, let alone have room for one,
but my desire to pay hard earned money for something in this class of
product wanes with each disappointing report of poor product quality.

Dan


--- In [hidden email], DEREK BROOME <dbroome27@...> wrote:
>
> Yes I have been reading the blogs about the quality ot Thunderbird 2.
Does not sound like these will be selling either!!
>    
> Derek
>
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alstrup
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Hi Branko,

I wholeheartedly agree with your statement about Network's
Space:1999 remastered set being way too soft. I believe it is a
combination of too much compression (4 episodes per disc) and
perhaps a HD-SD downconversion that was not either not calibrated  
properly or too purist for the lower bitrate of the finished discs.
I am looking forward to future HD sets, as I am sure that telecine
colorist Jonathan Wood at BBC Resources (who also did UFO) did a
great job (now working on Year 2). Perhaps someone who saw the 720P
broadcasts in the UK by ITV can comment further.

Thanks,

Ole
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/ITC_DVD/


--- In [hidden email], Branko Vekic <brave66@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I can see that there was no reactions on my statement that
Charlton UFO DVD set looks great upscaled by Playstation 3 watched
on 52" 1080p TV. It really does! I just watched "The Dalotek Affair"
and I was blown away by the detail and quality... Not many DVD's
look good when upscaled, but UFO set is great, and if it is never
published in HD I will be completely satisfied with this. It really
looks better than many films on Blu Ray or HD DVD (real 1080p). And,
to tell you something, it looks way better and sharper than
Network's "Space: 1999" remastered set. Much, much better, with more
detail and sharpness. After the surprise with "The Dalotek Affair",
I immediately ran Network set to see if it is any better (if it is
possible) and find out that it was way too soft, compared to UFO
(and still much better than many upscaled big budget Hollywood movie
DVD's)... My only objection is that some underwater scenes in main
titles on UFO set have some compression artefacts, but it is
neglectable and I am sure the real HD material would have the same
problems...

> All the best,
> Branko  
>
>
>
>
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Marc Martin
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> Perhaps someone who saw the 720P
> broadcasts in the UK by ITV can comment further.

Yes, when trying to fit 4 50-minute episodes onto
a DVD, quality will indeed suffer. When ITV4 was
running their test broadcasts which featured Space:1999,
there was someone who was taking the MPEG-4 H.264
bitstreams (8 GB per episode), and downconverting
them to 2GB MPEG-4 files available over BitTorrent.
I downloaded all of these, and I think these look
great. At the time I even posted a comparison
between the Network DVDs and the HDTV broadcasts:

http://ufoseries.com/hd1999/

I'm currently doing a trade study in our house
on whether to stay with cable, or to go with
a satellite provider. If my wife and I decide
that it would be best to go with Dish Network,
then I'll finally get a chance to see those
HDTV UFO and Thunderbirds broadcasts... :-)

Marc
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etdc1999
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wrote:
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> I did a search for blogs/info and didn't come upon anything. Can
you provide some pointers on where to look about the quality issues
with TB2?

Read and weep:

http://www.eagletransporter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3314

http://www.eagletransporter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2981

The fact that this golden opportunity to get it right has been
squandered is a tradegy in my opinion...

Mark
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etdc1999
It could also be a tragedy. ;-)
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richard curzon
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Don't hold your breath for any HD releases. Vintage
TV stuff took years to arrive on standard DVD, the HD
formats are still of minority/technofreak interest. At
the minute the studios are concentrating of releasing
new titles or classics.

The Network set (season 1) looks shrp enough on my 42
inch plasma (Panasonic Vieta), and I have a relatively
new Panasonic DVD recorder with upscale technology
(Progressive). I am currently watching my way through
Network's superb DVD set of The Saint (Monochrome
Years), and the definition is remarkable - I can pick
out skin textures in medium shots, s well as
individual hairs. The only lousy release I have from
Network is The Adventurer (1972).

Rick

--- alstrup <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Branko,
>
> I wholeheartedly agree with your statement about
> Network's
> Space:1999 remastered set being way too soft. I
> believe it is a
> combination of too much compression (4 episodes per
> disc) and
> perhaps a HD-SD downconversion that was not either
> not calibrated
> properly or too purist for the lower bitrate of the
> finished discs.
> I am looking forward to future HD sets, as I am sure
> that telecine
> colorist Jonathan Wood at BBC Resources (who also
> did UFO) did a
> great job (now working on Year 2). Perhaps someone
> who saw the 720P
> broadcasts in the UK by ITV can comment further.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
> http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/ITC_DVD/
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Branko Vekic
> <brave66@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I can see that there was no reactions on my
> statement that
> Charlton UFO DVD set looks great upscaled by
> Playstation 3 watched
> on 52" 1080p TV. It really does! I just watched "The
> Dalotek Affair"
> and I was blown away by the detail and quality...
> Not many DVD's
> look good when upscaled, but UFO set is great, and
> if it is never
> published in HD I will be completely satisfied with
> this. It really
> looks better than many films on Blu Ray or HD DVD
> (real 1080p). And,
> to tell you something, it looks way better and
> sharper than
> Network's "Space: 1999" remastered set. Much, much
> better, with more
> detail and sharpness. After the surprise with "The
> Dalotek Affair",
> I immediately ran Network set to see if it is any
> better (if it is
> possible) and find out that it was way too soft,
> compared to UFO
> (and still much better than many upscaled big budget
> Hollywood movie
> DVD's)... My only objection is that some underwater
> scenes in main
> titles on UFO set have some compression artefacts,
> but it is
> neglectable and I am sure the real HD material would
> have the same
> problems...
> > All the best,
> > Branko
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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richard curzon
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Well, looking at your comparison there is virtually no
difference except that the HD image crops off the top
and bottom of the picture. Sure, the contrast is
lsightly better but it is negligible and the sharpness
is only very slightly better. These HD broadcasts
ought to be pillarboxed, as this is tantamount to
panning-and-scanning. If you guys are that concerned
about picture quality, this is what you ought to be
concentrating your efforts on. If all thses HD
broadcasts are cropped, then it is a travesty.

Rick

--- Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > Perhaps someone who saw the 720P
> > broadcasts in the UK by ITV can comment further.
>
> Yes, when trying to fit 4 50-minute episodes onto
> a DVD, quality will indeed suffer. When ITV4 was
> running their test broadcasts which featured
> Space:1999,
> there was someone who was taking the MPEG-4 H.264
> bitstreams (8 GB per episode), and downconverting
> them to 2GB MPEG-4 files available over BitTorrent.
> I downloaded all of these, and I think these look
> great. At the time I even posted a comparison
> between the Network DVDs and the HDTV broadcasts:
>
> http://ufoseries.com/hd1999/
>
> I'm currently doing a trade study in our house
> on whether to stay with cable, or to go with
> a satellite provider. If my wife and I decide
> that it would be best to go with Dish Network,
> then I'll finally get a chance to see those
> HDTV UFO and Thunderbirds broadcasts... :-)
>
> Marc
>
>



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alstrup
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OK, thanks for that info, Marc. Are those torrents still available?
How many were uploaded? Color looks bleak on the HD copy, also they
are 16:9.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

>
> > Perhaps someone who saw the 720P
> > broadcasts in the UK by ITV can comment further.
>
> Yes, when trying to fit 4 50-minute episodes onto
> a DVD, quality will indeed suffer. When ITV4 was
> running their test broadcasts which featured Space:1999,
> there was someone who was taking the MPEG-4 H.264
> bitstreams (8 GB per episode), and downconverting
> them to 2GB MPEG-4 files available over BitTorrent.
> I downloaded all of these, and I think these look
> great. At the time I even posted a comparison
> between the Network DVDs and the HDTV broadcasts:
>
> http://ufoseries.com/hd1999/
>
> I'm currently doing a trade study in our house
> on whether to stay with cable, or to go with
> a satellite provider. If my wife and I decide
> that it would be best to go with Dish Network,
> then I'll finally get a chance to see those
> HDTV UFO and Thunderbirds broadcasts... :-)
>
> Marc
>
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Marc Martin
Administrator
> OK, thanks for that info, Marc. Are those torrents still available?
> How many were uploaded? Color looks bleak on the HD copy, also they
> are 16:9.

The torrents might still be available, but remember that each
episode is quite large, about 1 - 2 gb in size (recompressed
from the original 8 gb size). Try looking for them on
Demonoid or some BitTorrent search engine using keywords
like "Space 1999 HDTV". Most of season one was made
available, and they were all 16:9 (top and bottom of
picture cropped off). Normally I would object to such
cropping, but I think they did such a good job with this
that it mostly works.

And unfortunately, the cropping I've seen for the UFO HD
versions isn't as good... :-(

Marc
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Marc Martin
Administrator
In reply to this post by richard curzon
> If you guys are that concerned
> about picture quality, this is what you ought to be
> concentrating your efforts on. If all these HD
> broadcasts are cropped, then it is a travesty.

Yes, I heard from someone who attended the Fanderson
HD21 event that the Granada representative made
a rather absurd claim that the American market
demands all content to be in 16:9. This is
ridiculous, because I've seen the surveys
and complaints about this practice on American
HDTV channels, and thus many channels have backed
off and are now pillarboxing 4:3 content, and
channels are now proudly advertising that they
show movies in their original aspect ratio (as
they should).

Unfortunately, UFO and Thunderbirds are being
shown on American HD satellite in 16:9, and
I have seen no evidence that Granada even
had a 4:3 HD transfer done for these series.

Marc
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alstrup
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Just keep breathing. Cult tv market is now big business on DVD, HD
releases will follow fairly quickly. In the US, Star Trek:OS is
getting a lot of attention already, fyi, even Network is planning
for some releases next year, The Prisoner 40th Anniversary seems to
be the first. I have seen Network's Space on different diplays, it
is always soft and lacking.

~ Ole

--- In [hidden email], richard curzon <hammeramicus2002@...>
wrote:

>
>
> Don't hold your breath for any HD releases. Vintage
> TV stuff took years to arrive on standard DVD, the HD
> formats are still of minority/technofreak interest. At
> the minute the studios are concentrating of releasing
> new titles or classics.
>
> The Network set (season 1) looks shrp enough on my 42
> inch plasma (Panasonic Vieta), and I have a relatively
> new Panasonic DVD recorder with upscale technology
> (Progressive). I am currently watching my way through
> Network's superb DVD set of The Saint (Monochrome
> Years), and the definition is remarkable - I can pick
> out skin textures in medium shots, s well as
> individual hairs. The only lousy release I have from
> Network is The Adventurer (1972).
>
> Rick
>
> --- alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Branko,
> >
> > I wholeheartedly agree with your statement about
> > Network's
> > Space:1999 remastered set being way too soft. I
> > believe it is a
> > combination of too much compression (4 episodes per
> > disc) and
> > perhaps a HD-SD downconversion that was not either
> > not calibrated  
> > properly or too purist for the lower bitrate of the
> > finished discs.
> > I am looking forward to future HD sets, as I am sure
> > that telecine
> > colorist Jonathan Wood at BBC Resources (who also
> > did UFO) did a
> > great job (now working on Year 2). Perhaps someone
> > who saw the 720P
> > broadcasts in the UK by ITV can comment further.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ole
> > http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/ITC_DVD/
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Branko Vekic
> > <brave66@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I can see that there was no reactions on my
> > statement that
> > Charlton UFO DVD set looks great upscaled by
> > Playstation 3 watched
> > on 52" 1080p TV. It really does! I just watched "The
> > Dalotek Affair"
> > and I was blown away by the detail and quality...
> > Not many DVD's
> > look good when upscaled, but UFO set is great, and
> > if it is never
> > published in HD I will be completely satisfied with
> > this. It really
> > looks better than many films on Blu Ray or HD DVD
> > (real 1080p). And,
> > to tell you something, it looks way better and
> > sharper than
> > Network's "Space: 1999" remastered set. Much, much
> > better, with more
> > detail and sharpness. After the surprise with "The
> > Dalotek Affair",
> > I immediately ran Network set to see if it is any
> > better (if it is
> > possible) and find out that it was way too soft,
> > compared to UFO
> > (and still much better than many upscaled big budget
> > Hollywood movie
> > DVD's)... My only objection is that some underwater
> > scenes in main
> > titles on UFO set have some compression artefacts,
> > but it is
> > neglectable and I am sure the real HD material would
> > have the same
> > problems...
> > > All the best,
> > > Branko  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Marc Martin
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> Just keep breathing. Cult tv market is now big business on DVD, HD
> releases will follow fairly quickly. In the US, Star Trek:OS is
> getting a lot of attention already

Yes, Star Trek is getting a lot of attention because the discs
are too expensive, and Paramount re-did the special effects with
new computer effects (blasphemy!).  

I wouldn't even want to see a Cult TV release on HD disc until
there's been a declared winner in the format war. And even
then, you just know that someone is going to try and
"improve" the original with "surround" audio, "widescreen",
or some other nonsense.

Marc
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alstrup
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Must be this one:

http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1021855/?
show_files=1&page=1&ref=1191629295#file_list

Oh god, only one seeder...this will take FOREVER...




--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > OK, thanks for that info, Marc. Are those torrents still
available?
> > How many were uploaded? Color looks bleak on the HD copy, also
they

> > are 16:9.
>
> The torrents might still be available, but remember that each
> episode is quite large, about 1 - 2 gb in size (recompressed
> from the original 8 gb size). Try looking for them on
> Demonoid or some BitTorrent search engine using keywords
> like "Space 1999 HDTV". Most of season one was made
> available, and they were all 16:9 (top and bottom of
> picture cropped off). Normally I would object to such
> cropping, but I think they did such a good job with this
> that it mostly works.
>
> And unfortunately, the cropping I've seen for the UFO HD
> versions isn't as good... :-(
>
> Marc
>
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