Re: How do you get into a Mobile? or an Interceptor?

Hey guys, these are great discussions - I have wondered how the operatives
got in and out of the Mobiles, or how the pilots entered the Interceptors.
All we see on-screen are the three "pads" elevating the Interceptors to
Moon-level so they can take off. Also, the point about the unsafe helmets is
well-taken - hopefully a UFO2 series/pilot film will address some of these
concerns properly.

I've always felt the Interceptor pilots should have been wearing flight
suits more akin to John Glenn's original suit, with a full helmet and
breathing apparatus attached. That way, if a pilot had to bail out if the
aliens shot up his ship, he could survive in space until help arrived.
Conventional fighter planes here on earth do have eject modes etc. Maybe
SHADO should have a special rescue squad to pick up astronauts who've had to
eject. It isn't easy to replace such trained personnel and the air forces of
many nations do provide escape means if the aircraft are compromised. What
say you?

Pam

I suspect there are roof hatches for the mobile drivers.
Grant.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pam McCaughey [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 16 January 2001 15:23
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [SHADO] Re: How do you get into a Mobile? or an Interceptor?


Hey guys, these are great discussions - I have wondered how the operatives
got in and out of the Mobiles, or how the pilots entered the Interceptors.
All we see on-screen are the three "pads" elevating the Interceptors to
Moon-level so they can take off. Also, the point about the unsafe helmets is
well-taken - hopefully a UFO2 series/pilot film will address some of these
concerns properly.

I've always felt the Interceptor pilots should have been wearing flight
suits more akin to John Glenn's original suit, with a full helmet and
breathing apparatus attached. That way, if a pilot had to bail out if the
aliens shot up his ship, he could survive in space until help arrived.
Conventional fighter planes here on earth do have eject modes etc. Maybe
SHADO should have a special rescue squad to pick up astronauts who've had to
eject. It isn't easy to replace such trained personnel and the air forces of
many nations do provide escape means if the aircraft are compromised. What
say you?

Pam







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Yeah, I love this discussion, don't recall seeing one like this
before. It gets us thinking about the "back end" (so to speak) of
UFO - how things work and stuff. Valuable info for UFO
resurrection.

Is eGroups dropping posts? I don't think I got the original
message in this thread.

Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: Pam McCaughey <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:22 AM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: How do you get into a Mobile? or an
Interceptor?


| Hey guys, these are great discussions - I have wondered how the
operatives
| got in and out of the Mobiles, or how the pilots entered the
Interceptors.
| All we see on-screen are the three "pads" elevating the
Interceptors to
| Moon-level so they can take off. Also, the point about the
unsafe helmets is
| well-taken - hopefully a UFO2 series/pilot film will address
some of these
| concerns properly.
|
| I've always felt the Interceptor pilots should have been wearing
flight
| suits more akin to John Glenn's original suit, with a full
helmet and
| breathing apparatus attached. That way, if a pilot had to bail
out if the
| aliens shot up his ship, he could survive in space until help
arrived.
| Conventional fighter planes here on earth do have eject modes
etc. Maybe
| SHADO should have a special rescue squad to pick up astronauts
who've had to
| eject. It isn't easy to replace such trained personnel and the
air forces of
| many nations do provide escape means if the aircraft are
compromised. What
| say you?

> I've always felt the Interceptor pilots should have been wearing flight
> suits more akin to John Glenn's original suit, with a full helmet and
> breathing apparatus attached. That way, if a pilot had to bail out if the
> aliens shot up his ship, he could survive in space until help arrived.
> Conventional fighter planes here on earth do have eject modes etc. Maybe

There's been much speculation about Interceptor
pilot launches for years. Upon examining close-ups
of the Interceptor FX model and the publicity shots
of the launch silo, I'm of the opinion that the pilots
are in fact *lifted* into their cockpits via launch tubes,
very similar to the method of entry for the Angel pilots in
"Captain Scarlet". [They sit in their flight seats, which
are situated in an elevator, and these are then injected
through the bottom of their craft waiting above on the
launch catapult]

On the underside of the large FX model there
appears to be panel work that at least *implies*
that there is supposed to be an entry hatch of
some description beneath the cockpit area.

And on the launch pad itself (barely visible in the
FX shots) are circular marks right in the middle,
indicating a round hatch, (possibly to accommodate
a tube that would shoot up the centre of the pad
when its still at the bottom of the silo.

So I guess, the pilot would slide down his chute to
an area *beneath* the silo, (being delivered to
his flight seat), and then be lifted up inside his
airtight tube, through the bottom of the pad on
top of which his Interceptor rests. The tube would
retract, the underside hatch close up, and the Interceptor
would then be ready for lifting to the lunar surface.

Kelly

Kelly Patrick Lannan
The Gerry Anderson Memorabilia Site
<[hidden email]>
http://www.users.bigpond.com/BASE_KOALA/GA.Memorabilia/Information.htm

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Kelly wrote:
> ... the pilot would slide down his chute to
> an area *beneath* the silo, [into] his flight seat),
> and then be lifted up inside his airtight tube, ...

--- In [hidden email], "Hemmings, R.K." <rkh@l...> wrote:
> Obviously the pilots are still vulnerable to damage-induced
> air leaks, but, as SHADO pilots are so well trained, this will
> never occur ...

If Interceptors spend all their time blowing up UFO's, then they would
be very vulnerable to bits of flying debris from exploded UFOs. Unless
it is in the nature of UFO's that when a missile hit makes the UFO's
engine explode, the UFO and the missile are both completely evaporated
every time. But after at least one UFO explosion on or near the ground
on Earth, someone found "no bit bigger than ....", i.e. small bits
surviving to become shrapnel, and not complete evaporation. So
Interceptor pilots would be advised to wear full space-type pressure
suits.

And what happens when an Interceptor has to land astray somewhere on
the Moon? For a rescue team, extracting a spacesuitless pilot from a
grounded Intereptor would be a lot harder than if he wore a spacesuit
and could merely walk out of it, either by blowing the canopy off or
down through the cockpit floor.

> Interceptors do not dog-fight.

If the UFO has a good plasma beam gun (or whatever they have), the
fight may well get somewhat like a dogfight. I seem to remember that
in one TV episode (Identified?) a UFO did shoot an Interceptor down.
After a while the aliens would develop counter-measures, and the job
would gradually stop being a turkey-shoot.

> They're simply a vector for delivering the missiles,

So were the jet fighters in "Topgun", usually, but the fights were
still like dogfights. OK, the fights needed different skills from a
dogfight against an aircraft or spacecraft made by humans.

> something which could easily be done without a pilot
> (..or even without an Interceptor!)

Huh???? E.g. the postman is merely a vector for delivering the mail,
but the mail wouldn't come if the postman wasn't there.

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--- In [hidden email], "Hemmings, R.K." <rkh@l...> wrote:
> I meant that self-propelling Moonbase-guided missiles could do the
> job just as well as Interceptor-delivered ones ...

No. A missile sent from the Moon would have further to fly and it
would be easier for the UFO to dodge it.

Anthony wrote:

>> meant that self-propelling Moonbase-guided missiles could do the
>>job just as well as Interceptor-delivered ones ...
>
> No. A missile sent from the Moon would have further to fly and it
> would be easier for the UFO to dodge it.

OK, you win.. that's exactly the point I was mak.. (oh, never mind.)
Triple Blimey! - James is now unWAPed!
--
BCNU!

[hidden email] wrote:
> Anthony wrote:

> OK, you win.. that's exactly the point I was mak.. (oh, never mind.)
> Triple Blimey! - James is now unWAPed!
> --
> BCNU!
>

Er .. pardon? :/

James wrote:

>>Triple Blimey! - James is now unWAPed!

> Er .. pardon? :/

Sorry, James, that was highly encrypted (might as well blame
Lieve - the Belgians invented Stella Artois, did they not? <hic!>)
Welcome back! The 'unWAPed' comment was because I believe
you travel a 'fair bit'..
"Web-enabled" 'phones and related info.-delivering systems
are used far more in other locations, and I was wondering
if you'd accidentally 'come across' any evidence of decline in
such hinted-at areas? (f.i. are current 'international news
stories', supposedly based on fact, anywhere near reality when
they report that 'social outcast' status can be achieved simply
by *not* playing the latest WAP-enabled 'phone game?)

Regards
--
Rob

Rob wrote:
>James wrote:
>
> >>Triple Blimey! - James is now unWAPed!
>
> > Er .. pardon? :/
>
>Sorry, James, that was highly encrypted (might as well blame
>Lieve - the Belgians invented Stella Artois, did they not? <hic!>)

Actually we invented beer, not merely Stella (which is brewed in my home
town, Leuven, ergo, I hate the taste of it) which I would not call beer
really (wouldn't you call it Lager in the UK, actually?).
The stuff we turn out at MarsBase is a lot better, it uses the traditional
methods - hence no chemicals.... (it's based on Peterman, which was the
ORIGINAL Stella Artois before the chemicals were used)
What you should really drink (apart from the MarsBaseBeer) is beer brewed
at abbeys, they are good for one's health...
I see the BBC are still showing Thunderbirds - just how many eps were there
of that series? What will they show when they run out of eps? UFO? Nah,
that would be too good to be true....

CU

Lieve



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[hidden email] wrote:
> James wrote:
>
> >>Triple Blimey! - James is now unWAPed!
>
> > Er .. pardon? :/
>
> Sorry, James, that was highly encrypted (might as well blame
> Lieve - the Belgians invented Stella Artois, did they not? <hic!>)

I believe so .. reasurringly expensive, I also believe ..

I see .. I wondered if you might be referring to WAP phones,
but have never owned one myself - hence the confusion..

I am lucky enough to be able to get around a fair bit with my
job but unfortunately nearly always to the same three or four
places. I can't claim to be au-fait with the latest
technological trends vis-a-vis WAP, hence am probably a social
outcast by default in some places .. my girfriend tells me
that being seen with last year's MD walkman will get you
laughed at in the street in Hong Kong .. apparently you can
be arrested for carrying a cassette walkman there now ..

Later, Lieve wrote:

> I see the BBC are still showing Thunderbirds - just how many eps were
> there of that series? What will they show when they run out of eps?
> UFO? Nah, that would be too good to be true....

I think there were 32 TB eps.

James