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I was watching Sci-Fi and see that they have the dumbest shows on there.
My question to you Mark and everyone in SHADO@yahoo groups--Someone has to
pitch a UFO mini-series that will work!!Things would have to be updated
similar to how I-Robot was with will Smith,but I know it can be done!If
people can organize conventions and shows with either Sci-Fi or UFO then
anything is certainly possible!!I'm not one to give up and roll-over that
easy on something that I believe in my heart will work and bring that
franchise it's proper notariety and recapture us as fans and also the new
fan base it will definitely pick up!
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> I was watching Sci-Fi and see that they have the dumbest shows on there.
> My question to you Mark and everyone in SHADO@yahoo groups--Someone has
> to pitch a UFO mini-series that will work!

Certainly it would be possible to make a decent remake, but I don't
think anyone here on this group is going to be responsible for it
(unless we have some TV show writers/producers lurking here?)

And don't look at me... I'm just a rocket scientist! :-)

Marc

I wouldn't call what they did with the Will Smith version of I Robot a
update. They kept the basic plot and did a complete re-write of the story which
originally was just a short story. They pretty much murdered it.
I would expect the same from a attempt to do a remake/update of UFO. But
that's just me. If you don't mind the characters being totally changed and
locations changed and special effects and explosions in place of plot development
and character development it should be fine.

James K.

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--- In [hidden email], SumitonJD@... wrote:
>
> I wouldn't call what they did with the Will Smith version of I
Robot a
> update. They kept the basic plot and did a complete re-write of
the story which
> originally was just a short story. They pretty much murdered it.

One could say that's what happened with the new Battlestar Galactica
series, but I actually like the new interpretation better. I would
expect a new project for UFO to be a fast paced, suspense thriller,
possibly set in the present.

> I would expect the same from a attempt to do a remake/update of
UFO. But
> that's just me. If you don't mind the characters being totally
changed and
> locations changed and special effects and explosions in place of
plot development
> and character development it should be fine.

I would hope that a re-make of UFO would not have as drastic the
character changes of Battlestar.

This is a side note, but does anyone remember a poseable action
figure called, "Action Jackson?" It was an 8" doll and is dressed
like the interceptor pilots from UFO. At least that is my
recollection of it. There are some available on ebay. Does anyone
know if that product had any relation to UFO?

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CyberMecha Studios - Internet Radio Rock Electronic
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> One could say that's what happened with the new Battlestar Galactica
> series, but I actually like the new interpretation better. I would
> expect a new project for UFO to be a fast paced, suspense thriller,
> possibly set in the present.

Yes, pretty much any present-day attempt to remake UFO would be much
different than the original. So different that many people who liked
the original series probably wouldn't like the remake (and also the
reverse situation).

The new Battlestar Galactica is vastly different than the original.
One wonders why they even bothered calling it "Battlestar Galactica",
but I suppose they needed the name to get good ratings for the initial
mini-series.

Of course, since there probably would be no ratings-advantage to
calling something "UFO", someone could certainly develop a new
series that has as much (or more) in common with UFO than many
remakes. I actually like this idea more than the idea of "remaking
UFO".

Marc

Action Jackson?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkqaUAhK28k

Jeff

Robby Garner <[hidden email]> wrote:
--- In [hidden email], SumitonJD@... wrote:
>
> I wouldn't call what they did with the Will Smith version of I
Robot a
> update. They kept the basic plot and did a complete re-write of
the story which
> originally was just a short story. They pretty much murdered it.

One could say that's what happened with the new Battlestar Galactica
series, but I actually like the new interpretation better. I would
expect a new project for UFO to be a fast paced, suspense thriller,
possibly set in the present.

> I would expect the same from a attempt to do a remake/update of
UFO. But
> that's just me. If you don't mind the characters being totally
changed and
> locations changed and special effects and explosions in place of
plot development
> and character development it should be fine.

I would hope that a re-make of UFO would not have as drastic the
character changes of Battlestar.

This is a side note, but does anyone remember a poseable action
figure called, "Action Jackson?" It was an 8" doll and is dressed
like the interceptor pilots from UFO. At least that is my
recollection of it. There are some available on ebay. Does anyone
know if that product had any relation to UFO?

--
Robby Garner, Program Director
CyberMecha Studios - Internet Radio Rock Electronic
http://www.live365.com/stations/robitron






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Action Jackson was a doll for boys back in the day of when I was a kid.I
remember it and it did NOT have anything to do with UFO.That was something
totally different my friend!That came out around the same time that Stretch
Armstrong did--remember that one??
Ant



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I agree, to re-make UFO as we know it just isn't possible, no matter how much we would like to see it done. Largely because no one remembers the old show. At least remembers it enough for it to matter.

So, the best approach would possible be to create a new show with slight references to the old show. Hopefully these references would help bring in and recreate a good fan base from the old show, yet still allowing for new fans to come in without having to know a lot about the first show to know what is going on.

It would be nice if the Shado organization was still in the new show. Updated of course, but still functioning as we know it. Maybe even having a comic type approach sort of like the X-men or Fantastic Four movies, with more of a adult twist. I'm not a big comic fan, but a lot of people respond to those types of movies quite well. What do you think?

Now as for a name. Maybe something that stirs up fear and curiosity. I'm open for suggest.

A good opening episode would be to have the Earth largely taken over by the Alien's by taking over our government leaders. Hence references to the "Reflection in the Water" episode. Then have Shado (which has now had to become a rouge operation because of the Aliens take over) about to release a bio weapon that only kills the Aliens, or so they hope.

It would be good way to introduce new characters while reinstating some of the old ones. There a lot of great possibilities here.

Guess my imagination is getting awayof me here.

Martin Michael

Remebers it? I have all of the series on DVD and watch it with friends quite a bit. However I think that a remake of the old series would be usless. Instead do an updated version in todays present time and go from there.


[hidden email] wrote:
I agree, to re-make UFO as we know it just isn't possible, no matter how much we would like to see it done. Largely because no one remembers the old show. At least remembers it enough for it to matter.

So, the best approach would possible be to create a new show with slight references to the old show. Hopefully these references would help bring in and recreate a good fan base from the old show, yet still allowing for new fans to come in without having to know a lot about the first show to know what is going on.

It would be nice if the Shado organization was still in the new show. Updated of course, but still functioning as we know it. Maybe even having a comic type approach sort of like the X-men or Fantastic Four movies, with more of a adult twist. I'm not a big comic fan, but a lot of people respond to those types of movies quite well. What do you think?

Now as for a name. Maybe something that stirs up fear and curiosity. I'm open for suggest.

A good opening episode would be to have the Earth largely taken over by the Alien's by taking over our government leaders. Hence references to the "Reflection in the Water" episode. Then have Shado (which has now had to become a rouge operation because of the Aliens take over) about to release a bio weapon that only kills the Aliens, or so they hope.

It would be good way to introduce new characters while reinstating some of the old ones. There a lot of great possibilities here.

Guess my imagination is getting awayof me here.

Martin Michael





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To tell the truth, I hated the old and the new BG. The original one was just
plain dumb and the second one was boring as h**l. So it scares me to think
of what could happen with a so-called remake of UFO or a utilization of the
series ideas a la Mission: Impossible - sorry - but Tom Cruise and his
movies didn't bring alive to me the series at all and I hated the very idea
that Jim Phelps could be made into a BAD guy. That was just plain series
assassination. Most remakes of series and movies are crap it seems (look at
that HORRIBLE miniseries based on the sequel to Gone With the Wind - I'm
sure Margaret Mitchell was rolling over in her grave...) and the movie
version of Lost In Space was no better than BG. I, Robot at least made
little attempt to copy the original story by Asimov and did not really bill
itself that way either. In the final analysis, part of me would never even
bother watching a UFO remake and I have NO intention of watching the Star
Trek movie in the making with Kirk and Spock at StarFleet Academy -
sometimes it's just better to leave the original alone and enjoy it for what
it was. Pam the Canuck

Pamela McCaughey wrote:

> To tell the truth, I hated the old and the new BG.

<rant snipped>

I'm not so sure Pam. That shaky-cam "realistic" POV was sooo cool with
BG. I mean, it MUST be cool since it seems to be so pervasive these days.

Actually, it looks like some producers have a grudge against Stedicam
and are refusing to use their technology. Or they're using
rapidly-moving camera shots to cover-up for crappy SFX.

More likely is that they've (the marketdroids backed-up by dubious
social scientists) figured-out that jerky camera action causes eyeballs
to pay more attention.

I watched BG for awhile and just gave up after two or three episodes.

Paul

pam, wow
I agree,
too bad movies cant be fan made
mission impossibles movies sucked

and hate to say but being a gamer, that tv show with
the gates were for me a rip from fringeworthy,
oh well
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Hi Pam :)

Agree practically word for word...

Best to all :)

Griff

--- In [hidden email], Pamela McCaughey <mccaug@...> wrote:

To tell the truth, I hated the old and the new BG. The original one
was just plain dumb and the second one was boring as h**l. So it
scares me to think of what could happen with a so-called remake of UFO
or a utilization of the series ideas a la Mission: Impossible - sorry
- but Tom Cruise and his movies didn't bring alive to me the series at
all and I hated the very idea that Jim Phelps could be made into a BAD
guy. That was just plain series assassination. Most remakes of series
and movies are crap it seems (look at that HORRIBLE miniseries based
on the sequel to Gone With the Wind - I'm sure Margaret Mitchell was
rolling over in her grave...) and the movie version of Lost In Space
was no better than BG. I, Robot at least made little attempt to copy
the original story by Asimov and did not really bill itself that way
either. In the final analysis, part of me would never even bother
watching a UFO remake and I have NO intention of watching the Star
Trek movie in the making with Kirk and Spock at StarFleet Academy -
sometimes it's just better to leave the original alone and enjoy it
for what it was. Pam the Canuck

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:25:21 -0700 (PDT)
steven mckenzie <[hidden email]> wrote:

> pam, wow
> I agree,
> too bad movies cant be fan made
> mission impossibles movies sucked
>

I liked the Mission:Impossible films - they are stylish action films
with lots of eye candy, and that's all they were intended to be. I
don't actually think that they really needed to refer back to the old
'60s TV series; given Tom Cruise's participation they would have worked
just as well, I suspect, in a different guise.

The trouble with films being made by fans is that they will tend to
appeal predominantly to fans, rather than the general public. For a
premise with a huge fanbase that's fine, but for something like UFO,
it's a guarantee that it wouldn't be made in the first place.

James

>A good opening episode would be to have the Earth largely taken over by the
Alien's by taking over our government leaders. Hence references to the
"Reflection in the Water" episode. Then have Shado (which has now had to
become a rouge operation because of the Aliens take over) about to release a
bio weapon that only kills the Aliens, or so they hope.<


Okaaay - Not to toot my own horn, but Straker and company made pretty good
Superman villains. http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3236823/1/Shadows_In_Darkness


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Sorry, but I for one think the new BG is awesome....
Dave H.



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From: Paul Bowers
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO remake


Pamela McCaughey wrote:

> To tell the truth, I hated the old and the new BG.

<rant snipped>

I'm not so sure Pam. That shaky-cam "realistic" POV was sooo cool with
BG. I mean, it MUST be cool since it seems to be so pervasive these days.

Actually, it looks like some producers have a grudge against Stedicam
and are refusing to use their technology. Or they're using
rapidly-moving camera shots to cover-up for crappy SFX.

More likely is that they've (the marketdroids backed-up by dubious
social scientists) figured-out that jerky camera action causes eyeballs
to pay more attention.

I watched BG for awhile and just gave up after two or three episodes.

Paul





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In my opinion the "new" Galactica cannot reach the magic of the old one feat. such great actors like Lorne Greene or James Colicos. I always liked Battlestar Galactica and I was very happy when I read that they'd renew the series but when I saw the MiniSeries on TV I was disappointed because of so much violence. Battlestar Galactica lost its charm! I'm sorry but this renewal is too violent for me. Let me tell you my fab sci fi-series:
   
1) UFO
2) Battlestar Galactica (from the 1970ies, the 1980ies version was also bullshit)
3) Space:1999
   
Cheers: Rainer

"Hemmings, R.K." <[hidden email]> schrieb:
Same here. It's not a series for watching just the
occasional episode though - you do need to follow it.
In that way, it's similar to Babylon 5, which I also
loved. UFO is quite different in this respect - each
episode can be watched as a one-off.

My top 3 TV SF series of all time:
1, UFO
2, Galactica (*only* the new version)
3, Babylon 5

Cheers,
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UFO is still my favorite sci-fi series of all time, even though as an adult now I find it so full of bad acting and outrageous flaws. Something about the premise and storyline make it the most easy to "immerse" myself into imagining living there in an alternate life. I like the simplicity of the '70s vision of life in the '80s as well. The real world has turned out a bit dissappointing politically and space program wise.

The new BG is *addictive*. Also, every aspect of production is extremely high quality, from writing to acting to FX. It also parallels our situation today with the war and american politics. A brilliantly crafted, but subtle protest against our current leadership, while at the same time exposing both sides of the conflict.

Never seen the Babylon 5.

Dave H.


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From: Hemmings, R.K.
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] UFO remake


Same here. It's not a series for watching just the
occasional episode though - you do need to follow it.
In that way, it's similar to Babylon 5, which I also
loved. UFO is quite different in this respect - each
episode can be watched as a one-off.

My top 3 TV SF series of all time:
1, UFO
2, Galactica (*only* the new version)
3, Babylon 5

Cheers,
--
Rob




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