Real life SHADO

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>>Just came across an Aussie called Grant Straker who
has a web content management system called shadoCMS!
Obviously inspired by our beloved show, it's here:
_http://www.shadocmshttp:_ (http://www.shadocms.com/) <<

That is so cool! Whenever I want to hide something, I put it on disc and
mark it "Window's 95"

No one in their right mind will ever open it up.

Cheers! Wendy




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Now you've just given away your secret to the NSA & everyone else.... ;-)

Dave H.




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>>Just came across an Aussie called Grant Straker who
has a web content management system called shadoCMS!
Obviously inspired by our beloved show, it's here:
_http://www.shadocmshttp:_ (http://www.shadocms.com/) <<

That is so cool! Whenever I want to hide something, I put it on disc and
mark it "Window's 95"

No one in their right mind will ever open it up.

Cheers! Wendy

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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>>Now you've just given away your secret to the NSA & everyone else.... ;-)

Dave H.<<

Damn! I hate it when I blow my cover. :-0

Wendy AKA G. Bush




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wendy,

from now on you have to label your 'secrets-CDs' as WINDOWS 3.11!

nice site, BTW! *thumbsup*

ellie


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Now you've just given away your secret to the NSA & everyone else.... ;-)

Dave H.

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----- Original Message -----
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Real life SHADO

>>Just came across an Aussie called Grant Straker who
has a web content management system called shadoCMS!
Obviously inspired by our beloved show, it's here:
_http://www.shadocmshttp:_ (http://www.shadocms.com/) <<

That is so cool! Whenever I want to hide something, I put it on disc and
mark it "Window's 95"

No one in their right mind will ever open it up.

Cheers! Wendy

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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I'm new to the group but a long time UFO fan

Lately I've been re-watching the episodes on DVD

It dawned on me we never see the Interceptor Launch Caters in the same
frame as moonbase - which started me to wondering - where are they -

The art of ufo site shows the moon mobile launch craters at 3 & 9
o'clock - but the screen captures & still photos don't show them - but
no big deal

I always thought the Interceptor Pilots slide down the tubes out of
the dome at 5 o'clock to the launch tubes that would be at 5 o'clock
as well -

but is there any information that indicates where the launch tubes are
in relation to moonbase - again we don't see them in any of the still
photos of moonbase and we never see interceptors or the tubes in the
same frame as moonbase

> It dawned on me we never see the Interceptor Launch Craters in the same
> frame as moonbase - which started me to wondering - where are they -

Yes, I've never seen anything in the series (or in publicity or behind
the scenes photos) that would indicate where exactly those craters are
with respect to Moonbase...

Marc

Frankly, there's nothing anywhere in the show that indicates definitely where the launch silos are in relation to the base.

It's up to everyone individually to determine there they'd personally like them to be.

After using practical considerations to reconstruct the base on AutoCAD, I've found it preferable to locate the silos some minor distance away from the base, along with a considerably sized underground hangar facility for the other moonmobiles, tracked surface missile launchers, ordnance & fuel stores, etc.

Dave H.


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From: dsfrankiii
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Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:49 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Interceptor launch craters?


I'm new to the group but a long time UFO fan

Lately I've been re-watching the episodes on DVD

It dawned on me we never see the Interceptor Launch Caters in the same
frame as moonbase - which started me to wondering - where are they -

The art of ufo site shows the moon mobile launch craters at 3 & 9
o'clock - but the screen captures & still photos don't show them - but
no big deal

I always thought the Interceptor Pilots slide down the tubes out of
the dome at 5 o'clock to the launch tubes that would be at 5 o'clock
as well -

but is there any information that indicates where the launch tubes are
in relation to moonbase - again we don't see them in any of the still
photos of moonbase and we never see interceptors or the tubes in the
same frame as moonbase





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Just to add a small contributio to this topic...
I may be mistaken, but in the sequence of The Cat With Ten
Lives where Foster exercises with Regan in some sort of
Judo/Karate, an Interceptor can be seen through a glass
window in the back wall.
Of course it's unclear if that was meant to be a sort of
parking place for the Interceptors or the underground launch
silos.
t.

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> I may be mistaken, but in the sequence of The Cat With Ten
> Lives where Foster exercises with Regan in some sort of
> Judo/Karate, an Interceptor can be seen through a glass
> window in the back wall.

My impression of that scene was that this was intended to
be the launch silos in the background. Of course, there
is no indication where that workout room is located!

Marc

Marc wrote:

> Yes, I've never seen anything in
> the series (or in publicity or behind
> the scenes photos) that would indicate
> where exactly those craters are
> with respect to Moonbase...

Hi Marc and all,

That's a real problem. Thinking of it:

The pilots are stationed on Moonbase (in the leisure sphere) and
access the interceptors via chutes. That indicates that the silos
should be next to Moonbase (otherwise the chutes have to be *very*
long which doesn't make sense). As Teresa mentioned, in THE CAT WITH
TEN LIVES you can see the interceptors through a window in the
background.

In EXPOSED Straker demands that the pilots should be space born
within two minutes of a red alert which is not much time (alert –
put on the helmets – chute – fasten seatbelts – elevating to ground
level – lift off). Another evidence that the silos must be next to
Moonbase.

On the other hand in MINDBENDER the interceptors are already on
ground level when the approaching UFO is sighted and rush towards it
for some time (about a minute) before the alien craft destructs
itself next to Moonbase – and Straker is told that the
interceptors "didn't get near it". Therefore the silos must be far
away from Moonbase.

It remains a mystery…

Christian

If you look in the photo section under Gym you'll see I posted (jeez
March 2006!)some framecaps showing the window/viewport in the gym. I
reckon it's just a blowup of the standard photo of the interceptors
in their launch bay - if so that means you can work out exactly where
the gym is in relation to the bay. Personally I think there is much
more underground sections than we see in the show. There must be
sections adjacent to the bays for storage of spares and missles.
Perhaps when they jump down the chutes it takes them to below ground
level where they are deposited into a chair which whisks them along a
track to the bays. The flat area in front of Moonbase was meant to be
for landing heavier vehicles (loaded with supplies/missles?) I reckon
these would be taken into the structure that extends out and perhaps
carted around various underground corridors to where they were
needed/kept.

Regards,
Barry

ps I think in one of the comic strip stories the large lighted areas
in the launch bay were portrayed as large viewing windows like in
2001.



--- In [hidden email], "Christian J." <memorymetropolis@...>
wrote: WITH it
> for some time (about a minute) before the alien craft destructs
> itself next to Moonbase – and Straker is told that the
> interceptors "didn't get near it". Therefore the silos must be far
> away from Moonbase.
>
> It remains a mystery…
>
> Christian
>

Just another thought - if you were designing a military base where
would you put the missile storage? Not right next to the mainbase me
thinks....




--- In [hidden email], "Christian J." <memorymetropolis@...>
wrote: WITH it
> for some time (about a minute) before the alien craft destructs
> itself next to Moonbase – and Straker is told that the
> interceptors "didn't get near it". Therefore the silos must be far
> away from Moonbase.
>
> It remains a mystery…
>
> Christian
>

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

Thanks for all the responses - I thought the Gym was an underground
level of the 'central park' section of moonbase - the square section
in the middle - of course I don't have any facts to back that up -
just my impression

the stills of the gym do show an interceptor in the background - maybe
it is an 'off line' interceptor in storage or a maintenance bay away
from the launch tubes or it could be the gym was intended to be near
the launch tubes

since I first saw the show in the 70's I always thunk that the pilots
were hanging out in the sphere in the 5 o'clock position & the tubes
lead them out in that direction more - so the tubes would be in that
'southeast' direction - with the interceptors launching away from
moonbase to the 'southeast' or 'east'

discussing it w/ my daughter - she thought it was exactly the opposite
- the pilot sliding in a northwest direction to tubes out in the 10-11
o'clock position & the interceptors launching off due 'east'

of course - I think it is entirely likely that the Anderson crew -
never gave it any thought - that stuff looks cool was always the
primary focus - lots of folks have criticized the un-practical aspects
of many Anderson creations

that it looks cool was always cool enough for me

I wouldn't even be worried about it but I have a partially completed
moonbase model kit by Carlton & I plan to use it in a wargame & want
to model the area around the base including the launch craters - guess
I'll have to guess -

looking at the stills - the area 'northwest' is kinda broken up and
has some hills/craters which could help conceal the launch craters -
the other directions are pretty flat and featureless for a pretty long
distance

Actually from the view of a military person NO! Placing the silos or missile stores next to the surface base would be suicidal. Weapons stores are kept well away. the launch silos I think are easly explained. the surface baseis a small part of whats actually there. the chutes drop to a hughspeed shuttle car that takes the pilots to their ships a short distance away from the base. That way if a silo is hit it doesnt decompress everything else. The weapons would be a few miles away since they would do less damage as the moon is airless so a smaller blast wave if they go off. there is still the decompression factor however. As to building the base and such. I did that a long time ago to house my interceptor models. Came out pretty well. And Ithink I still have the designs here someplace.

 
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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:37:58 AM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: Interceptor launch craters?


Just another thought - if you were designing a military base where
would you put the missile storage? Not right next to the mainbase me
thinks....




--- In [hidden email], "Christian J." <memorymetropolis@...>
wrote: WITH
> TEN LIVES you can see the interceptors through a window in the
> background.
>
> In EXPOSED Straker demands that the pilots should be space born
> within two minutes of a red alert which is not much time (alert –
> put on the helmets – chute – fasten seatbelts – elevating to
ground
> level – lift off). Another evidence that the silos must be next to
> Moonbase.
>
> On the other hand in MINDBENDER the interceptors are already on
> ground level when the approaching UFO is sighted and rush towards
it
> for some time (about a minute) before the alien craft destructs
> itself next to Moonbase – and Straker is told that the
> interceptors "didn't get near it". Therefore the silos must be far
> away from Moonbase.
>
> It remains a mystery…
>
> Christian
>




 
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Let's be honest here, this is a relatively low-budget TV show, with
lots of Anderson technology, it's all been made to look flashy, but
nobody's really thought this through. It was only expected to be
viewed once, not nit-picked thirty years later!

There was never any indication of how the "jump-chutes" ever connected
to the interceptors, but I think most people imagined there was some
kind of "Thunderbird 2" style tube that connected to the machine.
That said, having closely examined the models and stills, there is no
indication of a hatch over the cockpit.

My other thought was, given they fell via a chute, how the hell did
they get back out of the interceptors once they got back??

Rob

> It was only expected to be
> viewed once, not nit-picked thirty years later!

at this point, I think we can start saying
forty years later, not thirty... :-)

Marc

Perhaps, like modern fighters, the entire top of the cockpit opens up.

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I love the fact that although this was a live action show the very "marionette" style (popularized in Thunderbirds, Stingray, etc.) of entering vehicles was retained. Although it's become a signature scene for Gerry Anderson productions (sliding down chutes or having your entire chair drop into a cockpit with you sitting in it) it's interesting that this very innovative style was developed mostly because a marionette with strings attached simple can't walk through a conventional doorway (the lines get in the way).
Brian C.

Rob Neal <[hidden email]> wrote:
Let's be honest here, this is a relatively low-budget TV show, with
lots of Anderson technology, it's all been made to look flashy, but
nobody's really thought this through. It was only expected to be
viewed once, not nit-picked thirty years later!

There was never any indication of how the "jump-chutes" ever connected
to the interceptors, but I think most people imagined there was some
kind of "Thunderbird 2" style tube that connected to the machine.
That said, having closely examined the models and stills, there is no
indication of a hatch over the cockpit.

My other thought was, given they fell via a chute, how the hell did
they get back out of the interceptors once they got back??

Rob






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Thian Raven wrote:

> Placing the silos or missile stores
> next to the surface base would be suicidal.
> Weapons stores are kept well away.

That makes sense.

> the chutes drop to a hughspeed shuttle
> car that takes the pilots to their ships
> a short distance away from the base.

But in this case you can't be space born within two minutes as
Straker demands.

Rob Neal wrote:

> My other thought was, given they fell
> via a chute, how the hell did they get back
> out of the interceptors once they got back??

Er...on foot? ;-)

But as you wrote it's all been made to look flashy, but nobody's
really thought this through. Think of Sky 1: how would it dock on
Skydiver after its mission? On the assumption that this should work
properly and above all quick.

Christian