Responsibility Seat

Random Thoughts:

Miss Ealand's eyes are awesome.

Freeman under pressure goes straight for the booze-o-matic.

Finally, Straker smokes a real cigar.

Jo Frazier in that turquoise well-cleavaged outfit, yowza. Out of
it... Straker you fool!

Didn't they call Moon Mobiles, Moon Hoppers early in the series?

The closing credits music has changed.

Bright red mid-1960s Corvette in the Harlington-Straker parking lot.

Lt. Ellis is sexy even in a space suit.

A SHADO car can run head-to-head with a Porsche Targa. Not bad.

In the launch position, wouldn't the folks in the Diver part of
SkyDiver tumble to the back of the boat?

I really liked the use of subplots in this episode like the Russian
moon truck. Then the Russian commander thanks SHADO for its
cooperation. They're lucky they didn't get an interceptor missile
down their throats.

I love Ayshea.

Why didn't I think Space 1999 was so awful when I first watched it,
but I thoroughly enjoyed UFO then and more so now?

Go figure.

Bob LeBras

On 6 Feb 2003, at 3:02, TheLynx [hidden email] wrote:

> Random Thoughts:
>
> Freeman under pressure goes straight for the booze-o-matic.

Yes, as to which is the biggest boozer Alec or Paul ... Well, Alec
wins hands down every time. He's a bit of an old soak if you ask
me lol.

> A SHADO car can run head-to-head with a Porsche Targa. Not bad.

I believe I read somewhere in a comic or an annual that the engines
used in the (fictional) SHADO cars had capacities of several litres.

> In the launch position, wouldn't the folks in the Diver part of
> SkyDiver tumble to the back of the boat?

Yes. Bugs me a bit, this one lol.

> I love Ayshea.

Ahhh, at last someone else recognises Ayshea for the lovely,
statuesque, Amazonian creature that she is :)

Dave.

"TheLynx <[hidden email]>" wrote:
>
> In the launch position, wouldn't the folks in the Diver part of
> SkyDiver tumble to the back of the boat?

You'd think they'd be strapped into their chairs or something,
but in one episode - I forget which - Carlin or Waterman is seen
talking to his crew just as they are about to launch Sky One,
and the crew are standing around on a level surface.

> Why didn't I think Space 1999 was so awful when I first watched it,
> but I thoroughly enjoyed UFO then and more so now?
>

I suppose because Space 1999 IS fairly awful.


James

[hidden email] wrote:

>
> I believe I read somewhere in a comic or an annual that the engines
> used in the (fictional) SHADO cars had capacities of several litres.
>

I believe the SHADO cars have jet turbine engines, or at any
rate they are certainly designed to sound very different from
conventional internal combustion engines.

To some, perhaps, but NOT to all...

>
> I suppose because Space 1999 IS fairly awful.
>

[hidden email] wrote:
>
> On 6 Feb 2003, at 3:02, TheLynx [hidden email] wrote:
>
> > Random Thoughts:

>
> > In the launch position, wouldn't the folks in the Diver part of
> > SkyDiver tumble to the back of the boat?
>
> Yes. Bugs me a bit, this one lol.
>
Just a thought, but it seems that the body of the Diver was rounded; I
always imagined that the interior rotated so the operatives remained
"upright". Note that there were two "doors" which closed separately.

Sorry Dahl, but there is no way that a sub could have that kind of internal mechanical action. The weight of the gears and other items required to move such a mass would be prohibitive to start with. Plus the sub would have to be more then two and a half times the length of that one compartment, so that there wold be room for every thing to swing.
What happens if the "Room" gets stuck during transit, or is battle damaged? My personal opinpion is that this was just another way to add Drama to the show, with out thinking through all of the things that this implies.
I have always thought that Sky Diver was one of the more poorly designed sets of the show. There is no indecation of what powers the ship, or if the engine room even exists. Where does the crew sleep during the long patrols, or eat for that matter? Where is the head, or the Captains cabin or any of the other things that would be required before they even thought of setting out to sea?
Comments or rebuttal?
Gene Dahl <[hidden email]> wrote:

[hidden email] wrote:
> On 6 Feb 2003, at 3:02, TheLynx [hidden email] wrote:
> Random Thoughts:

>
In the launch position, wouldn't the folks in the Diver part of SkyDiver tumble to the back of the boat?
>
> Yes. Bugs me a bit, this one lol.
>
Just a thought, but it seems that the body of the Diver was rounded; I
always imagined that the interior rotated so the operatives remained
"upright". Note that there were two "doors" which closed separately.






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Does Skydiver really need to be on long patrols? It's not like the aliens are
lurking underwater like an Earthbound foreign enemy would.

Perhaps Skydivers are on short term patrols -- and thus go back to base
frequently.

Just a thought. :)

Anthony
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From: "Robert Thomas" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Responsibility Seat


>
> Sorry Dahl, but there is no way that a sub could have that kind of internal
mechanical action. The weight of the gears and other items required to move
such a mass would be prohibitive to start with. Plus the sub would have to be
more then two and a half times the length of that one compartment, so that
there wold be room for every thing to swing.
> What happens if the "Room" gets stuck during transit, or is battle damaged?
My personal opinpion is that this was just another way to add Drama to the
show, with out thinking through all of the things that this implies.
> I have always thought that Sky Diver was one of the more poorly designed
sets of the show. There is no indecation of what powers the ship, or if the
engine room even exists. Where does the crew sleep during the long patrols, or
eat for that matter? Where is the head, or the Captains cabin or any of the
other things that would be required before they even thought of setting out to
sea?
> Comments or rebuttal?
> Gene Dahl <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> [hidden email] wrote:
> > On 6 Feb 2003, at 3:02, TheLynx [hidden email] wrote:
> > Random Thoughts:
>
> >
> In the launch position, wouldn't the folks in the Diver part of SkyDiver
tumble to the back of the boat?

Antony, you are forgeting the underwater alien base in Reflections in the
Water and the special underwater flying fish used in Destruction.

James K.


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Robert Thomas wrote:
>
> Where is the head, or the Captains cabin or any of the other things
> that would be required before they even thought of setting out to sea?

Well, there's certainly a Captain's cabin (we see it in
Subsmash). We don't get to see the toilet arrangements, but
that's true for every other sci-fi series I can think of as
well. I've often wondered what a visit to the loo might entail
in the Star Trek universe.

[hidden email] wrote:
> Antony, you are forgeting the underwater alien base in Reflections in the
> Water and the special underwater flying fish used in Destruction.
>

Yes, the UFOs can certainly survive underwater - we see one
rising from the surface of a lake in 'Sound of Silence', and we
know from one or two other eps that they do lurk beneath the
ocean waves as well.

However I think the primary idea behind Skydiver is to provide a
secure, invisible, mobile launch platform for an airborne
interceptor.

James

Better question is where the heck do the rest of the crew sleep? Do they all
take turns in the captain's cabin?

Also, I believe in two different episodes, we get to see the equivalent of a
public restroom in BABYLON 5.

Brian

>Robert Thomas wrote:
> >
> > Where is the head, or the Captains cabin or any of the other things
> > that would be required before they even thought of setting out to >sea?
>
>Well, there's certainly a Captain's cabin (we see it in Subsmash). We
> >don't get to see the toilet arrangements, but that's true for every
> >other sci-fi series I can think of as well. I've often wondered what >a
>visit to the loo might entail in the Star Trek universe.

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> I've often wondered what a visit to the loo might entail
> in the Star Trek universe.

Well, you know that big chair Kirk sits on in the bridge ...

(sorry)

Dave.

[hidden email] wrote:
> > I've often wondered what a visit to the loo might entail
> > in the Star Trek universe.
>
> Well, you know that big chair Kirk sits on in the bridge ...
>

I'm sure that transporter technology will have made the stigma
of certain bodily functions a thing of the past - so I expect
you're right.

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> Why didn't I think Space 1999 was so awful when I first watched it,
> but I thoroughly enjoyed UFO then and more so now?

Welcome to the club! :-)
That happened to me a couple of couple of years ago, too...

> Go figure.

I guess James G got it:

>I suppose because Space 1999 IS fairly awful.

Iz a possibility...
:-1

Then, someone wondered about who got to clean the place up in SHADO HQ...
and James K provided the answer:

>>Well the reason you don't ever hear of
>>anyone with the rank of Major is because the Majors are the ones who get
>>assigned do all that stuff. You don't see them again till they get
>>promoated to Colonel.

And got this answer from our Friendly Klingon:

>Heeeeeeeeeeeeeey! <MAJOR Yuchtar stands glaring with hands on hips>

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Major Yuchtar for keeping the
place so neat!
Let's hear it for the Major!
Her efforts are appreciated! 8-)

About His Strakerness' voice being similar to his O'Neillness' voice, said
Major wrote:

>Okay, I *like* Richard Dean Anderson, so I'll let that pass. ;-)
>(I also have plans for a UFO/Stargate crossover)

I'll second the first sentiment (but, Jee! Don't tell me I'll have to go and
compare voices from the DVDs?! :-1)
and keep waiting for the second project...
<mumble, grumble>

--Anny
P.S. Welcome to all the new people!
8-)

Anny Théberge wrote:

TTHHSSPPPPTTTTTTT!

<snort> Give me a chance! I'm woreking on two stories now (and one of
them is YOURS, ma chere!)

-- Y, thumbing my nose at Anny


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I think Martin Landau's acting has improved considerably since Space 1999.
He actually won a best supporting Oscar several yrs ago -not an award he'd
have won for playing John Koenig.........Pam

>
> > Why didn't I think Space 1999 was so awful when I first watched it,
> > but I thoroughly enjoyed UFO then and more so now?

Right -- he would have won an Emmy.

While I realize this is a UFO list and as such it's important to downgrade
Anderson's other series, the facts sort of get in the way...

The 3 main leads in Space:1999's first season are far and away more
accomplished actors than anything that UFO has to offer up.

Landau was Emmy-nominated for his Mission:Impossible role three years in row
(and won a Golden Globe for it one year); Barbara Bain won her Emmy
nominations [for M:I] 3 years in row. While Barry Morse didn't win any awards,
he did have a leading role in "The Fugitive" along with a heap load of other
roles in the years prior to his Space:1999 role.

If you take a look at Landau's "award" pages on IMDB
(http://us.imdb.com/Pawards?Landau,%20Martin), you will see many nominations
along with some wins. Yes, most of them are current (1990s), but there are
Emmy nominations for his M:I role and the Golden Globe win for the same role.

Compare that to Ed Bishop -- oh wait, there is no link for Ed's awards.
Perhaps someone forgot his "Best Puppet Voice in a Puppet Series" awarded by
the Birmingham Elementary School district.

Now, before the claws come out, this isn't to say that Ed Bishop isn't a
decent actor, it's merely to point out that downgrading Space:1999's
production values or acting (by the main leads) is more out of spite than
fact.

Anthony
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To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 2:23 AM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO vs Space 1999


> I think Martin Landau's acting has improved considerably since Space 1999.
> He actually won a best supporting Oscar several yrs ago -not an award he'd
> have won for playing John Koenig.........Pam
>
> >
> > > Why didn't I think Space 1999 was so awful when I first watched it,
> > > but I thoroughly enjoyed UFO then and more so now?

I just have to say that i have NEVER understood the HYPE over Space 1999.

I bought the first 2 DVD sets that A&E put out for
Space 1999 and after just One viewing quickly
put them up for sale on Half.com

If Ed Bishop is "wooden" than Martin Landau (or the writing for his
character at least) was Stonelike.

I was board to tears with Space 1999.

The only thing about 1999 that was cool was the Eagle.

Dont even get Me started on Plastic looking planet sets!!

As far as AWARDS go, most if not all awards shows are
a JOKE.

That is not to say that Mr. Landau has not done any good acting or that he
isn't MORE talented than Mr.
Bishop.
I think that goes without saying.

But to jump on the band wagon and say that Space 1999
was better BECAUSE it had bigger name actors or
because it had a bigger budget is ludicrous.

There are MANY reasons why Space 1999 has a bigger
following.
Not the least of which was simply BETTER TV
scheduling, Promotion, Etc., Etc.

I'll take U.F.O. over Space 1999 ANYDAY!!!!

Also take a look at the Twilight Zone episode "The Jeopardy Room".

I thought the main problem with Space:1999 was one of scientific absurdity -
the speed at which they went from planet to planet etc, not to mention the
entire premise of how the moon was blown out of earth orbit in the first
place.

Mind you - I have a hard time swallowing certain things in Star Trek too -
namely the way they can communicate with Earth over distances of 100s of
light years at all - never mind that they do so with no delay.

On the acting front - I could see no real problems with Space:1999.