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The "red phone"

Pat
In the Fanderson documentary on "UFO", Gerry Anderson an actor who was
taking forever to shoot a scene where all he had to do was to answer a
telephone... among other things he was asking why the phone was red...

Gerry was polite enought not to mention tjhe actor's name... but who
was he (what episode + scene) ?
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Pat wrote:
> In the Fanderson documentary on "UFO", Gerry Anderson an actor who was
> taking forever to shoot a scene where all he had to do was to answer a
> telephone... among other things he was asking why the phone was red...
>
> Gerry was polite enought not to mention tjhe actor's name... but who
> was he (what episode + scene) ?

This is one of those questions that I've asked myself, but still
don't know the answer.

Is there a red telephone anywhere in UFO? Or did Gerry just
make that up?

I've found that on some occasions, Gerry's stories don't agree with
the facts or with other people's versions of stories, so we
also need to be careful to realize that his statement about the
phone may not be true at all, or it may not have been UFO that
he was talking about.

Marc
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Griff
Hi All,

I always assumed it must have been Adrienne Corri "The Square Triangle", there's
a reddish telephone in that episode...

Best to all, Griff

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Pat wrote:
> In the Fanderson documentary on "UFO", Gerry Anderson an actor who was
> taking forever to shoot a scene where all he had to do was to answer a
> telephone... among other things he was asking why the phone was red...
>
> Gerry was polite enought not to mention tjhe actor's name... but who
> was he (what episode + scene) ?

This is one of those questions that I've asked myself, but still don't knowthe
answer.

Is there a red telephone anywhere in UFO? Or did Gerry just make that up?

I've found that on some occasions, Gerry's stories don't agree with the facts or
with other people's versions of stories, so we also need to be careful to
realize that his statement about the phone may not be true at all, or it may not
have been UFO that he was talking about.

Marc
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Marc Martin
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> I always assumed it must have been Adrienne Corri "The Square Triangle",
> there's a reddish telephone in that episode...

Where? In the house, she uses a white telephone:

http://ufoseries.com/guide/square.html

Marc
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Griff
Oh yes, you're right. I know there is an episode where one of the guest actors
uses a red phone. Another possibility is Tracy Read in "The Dalotek Affair". I'm
travelling on business at the moment, so I can't check...

Best, Griff

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> I always assumed it must have been Adrienne Corri "The Square
> Triangle", there's a reddish telephone in that episode...

Where? In the house, she uses a white telephone:

http://ufoseries.com/guide/square.html

Marc
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Marc Martin
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> Oh yes, you're right. I know there is an episode where one of the guest
> actors uses a red phone. Another possibility is Tracy Read in "The Dalotek
> Affair". I'm travelling on business at the moment, so I can't check...

I've been checking with Lisa Williams' UFO frame capture library...
here is a red phone in The Dalotek Affair:

http://www.framecaplib.com/ufolib/html/episodes/images/dalotek/dalot113.htm

This guy looks like he might be a troublemaker... :-)

Marc
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Griff
I found another one:

http://www.framecaplib.com/ufolib/html/episodes/images/dalotek/dalot069.htm

Best, Griff

-----Original Message-----
> Oh yes, you're right. I know there is an episode where one of the
> guest actors uses a red phone. Another possibility is Tracy Read in
> "The Dalotek Affair". I'm travelling on business at the moment, so I
> can't check...

I've been checking with Lisa Williams' UFO frame capture library... here is a
red phone in The Dalotek Affair:

http://www.framecaplib.com/ufolib/html/episodes/images/dalotek/dalot113.htm

This guy looks like he might be a troublemaker... :-)

Marc
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Kelly Patrick Lannan-2
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> I've found that on some occasions, Gerry's stories don't agree with the
> facts or
> with other people's versions of stories, so we also need to be careful to
> realize that his statement about the phone may not be true at all, or it
> may not
> have been UFO that he was talking about.

...which is I think the case. The incident has been reports in various
ways over the years, and was even on occasion spoken of in
reference to Gerry's time making "The Protectors". I believe this
may have been the case (I'm sure I've got a recorded interview
somewhere where he mentions the incident and "The Protectors" in
the same breath, just like he did on numerous other occasions
referring to UFO or trouble directing live actors in general).


Kelly
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Pat
... but in the Fanderson documentary, when Gerry finished the story
they cut to a close-up of a red phone being hung up... and from the
general look of the clip, it does look like it could be from UFO. *

* Howeverm it is a man's hand hanging it up, and he doesn't seem to
be wearing a space-suit...

--- In [hidden email], "Kelly Patrick Lannan" <klannan@b...>
wrote:
> > I've found that on some occasions, Gerry's stories don't agree
with the
> > facts or
> > with other people's versions of stories, so we also need to be
careful to
> > realize that his statement about the phone may not be true at
all, or it
> > may not
> > have been UFO that he was talking about.
>
> ...which is I think the case. The incident has been reports in
various
> ways over the years, and was even on occasion spoken of in
> reference to Gerry's time making "The Protectors". I believe this
> may have been the case (I'm sure I've got a recorded interview
> somewhere where he mentions the incident and "The Protectors" in
> the same breath, just like he did on numerous other occasions
> referring to UFO or trouble directing live actors in general).
>
>
> Kelly
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moonbasegirl
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--- In [hidden email], "Kelly Patrick Lannan" <klannan@b...>
wrote:

>The incident has been reports in various ways over the years, and
was even on occasion spoken of in reference to Gerry's time
making "The Protectors". I believe this may have been the case (I'm
sure I've got a recorded interview somewhere where he mentions the
incident and "The Protectors" in the same breath, just like he did on
numerous other occasions referring to UFO or trouble directing live
actors in general).


There's no red phone used in UFO like the one shown in the clip. It
occurred to me it might be from another of Gerry Anderson's series,
maybe of the same actor/ actress that caused the grief referred to.

I'd put money on one being the industrial spy in "Court Martial", I
don't have a clue of her name offhand. She is seen replacing a
telephone handset (although not red) and in his scene with her, Ed
Bishop really looks as if he would like to murder her, a bit OTT, IMO!


Sarah
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Marc Martin
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Pat wrote:
> ... but in the Fanderson documentary, when Gerry finished the story
> they cut to a close-up of a red phone being hung up... and from the
> general look of the clip, it does look like it could be from UFO. *

I just took a look at that clip, and I don't recognize it as being
from UFO, but I certainly could be wrong. It is a woman's hand
hanging it up, though...

Marc
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Branko
If Gerry wanted us to know who it was, he would name the actor. On my part,
I think it was just a matter of a metaphore, illustrating the kind of
questions the actors ask... and they can be even worse than that, believe
me...
All the best,
Branko

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moonbasegirl
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Marc wrote:

>I just took a look at that clip, and I don't recognize it as being
>from UFO, but I certainly could be wrong. It is a woman's hand
>hanging it up, though...

That clip is definitely not from UFO. I agree with you that the hand
is a woman's hand.

Branko wrote:

>If Gerry wanted us to know who it was, he would name the actor. On
>my part, I think it was just a matter of a metaphor, illustrating
>the kind of questions the actors ask... and they can be even worse
>than that, believe me...

Listening again to Gerry's comments, as you say, it's in there
purely to illustrate what he's saying. Incidentally, are you
thinking of any UFO related instances?

Perhaps it's a 'live hand shot' from one of the puppet series. If
there's a Fanderson member who worked on producing the documentary,
or who knows someone that did, could you put us out of our misery??.!

Watching the documentary reminded me about the slapping scene
in "Kill Straker". Alan Perry (the director) said he hadn't realised
a slap couldn't be "mimed", that it had to be for real.

I have to say, this can't be true!! In "CCA-OK", Straker slaps Mary
and that's definately mimed. Furthermore, Alan actually says he was
shocked at the severity of it and that Mike B. did well to carry on
acting the rest of the scene and I agree with him, especially because
the emotion expressed is genuine. Poor Mike, with a split lip and
real tears!

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Branko
Sarah wrote:

Listening again to Gerry's comments, as you say, it's in there
purely to illustrate what he's saying. Incidentally, are you
thinking of any UFO related instances?



No, I am reffering to work with the actors in general. Unfortunately I had
no experience whatsoever in working on UFO and the actors of UFO. I only met
Ed Bishop once and talked to him a bit and that talk made me sure that he
WOULDN'T ask such questions, for sure.

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