new story

Hello!
For those of you who have been eagerly awaiting the 3rd installment of my UFO fairy stories, it's finished and online at my website: http://denisefelt.weebly.com/3-not-just-another-fairy-tale.html

It's called "Not Just Another Fairy Tale" and the tagline reads: Dr. Jackson is not amused with the commander's explanation for his swift recovery.

I hope you'll enjoy this story as much as you have the rest of the Gaia Series.  I am having such fun with Nyt that there will definitely be more fairy tales to come! *grin*
Yours,
Denise

Hi All,
 
we're happy to announce that the August Issue of The Ed Straker Herald is officially out!
 
http://edstraker.net
 
It contains...
 
- a biography of George Sewell
- the first parts of the commentary transcripts of Gerry Anderson and Ed Bishop
- a close, canon-based look at Straker's age and backhistory
- next chapters of Blazes, Shepherd-Hefted, Shadows, Shot in the Dark and Crisis
- Just Another Job (a story based on a movie with Ed Bishop)
- Straker Conversation Pieces with Lightcudder, dragon and An Delen Dir
- dragon's Moonlight & Vodka
 
and of course as always answers by Dr. Jackson, Lifestyle articles, Art and Photos.
 
To those intrigued by facts...
 
http://shadopedia.com
 
SHADOpedia, the canon-based UFO-wiki, now has 119 articles and 230 pages.
 
 
So, have fun reading and browsing!
 
Cheers
 
An

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"a close, canon-based look at Straker's age and backhistory"

In that case I really want a copy of the DVDs you're watching since MY
copies don't give a single reference to how old Straker is.

Now, my copies show that Straker was a full colonel at the time of the MoD
minister's death (complete with Korean service medals), Mary Straker saying
that her husband was a military intelligence officer, and Straker saying he
was an astronaut with Craig Collins.

But I can't find anything on how old he is.

 

 

  _____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of An
Delendir
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 5:00 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [SHADO] The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 

 

Hi All,
 
we're happy to announce that the August Issue of The Ed Straker Herald is
officially out!
 
http://edstraker.net
 
It contains...
 
- a biography of George Sewell
- the first parts of the commentary transcripts of Gerry Anderson and Ed
Bishop
- a close, canon-based look at Straker's age and backhistory
- next chapters of Blazes, Shepherd-Hefted, Shadows, Shot in the Dark and
Crisis
- Just Another Job (a story based on a movie with Ed Bishop)
- Straker Conversation Pieces with Lightcudder, dragon and An Delen Dir
- dragon's Moonlight & Vodka
 
and of course as always answers by Dr. Jackson, Lifestyle articles, Art and
Photos.
 
To those intrigued by facts...
 
http://shadopedia.com
 
SHADOpedia, the canon-based UFO-wiki, now has 119 articles and 230 pages.
 
 
So, have fun reading and browsing!
 
Cheers
 
An

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Yeah, ya know, it has been a while since I have seen most of the eps and I really should sit down one day and watch each and every ep from start to finish, but I must say, I sure don't remember anyone ever mentioning Straker's age on the show.

Y


-----Original Message-----

That's because they didn't, Yuchy.  (And I've watched all the episodes recently.)
Yours,
Denise

--- In [hidden email], Yuchtar <yuchtr@...> wrote:

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's - this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs, Pam


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As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

 

 

  _____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:01 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 

 

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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I have just finished watching Wanda Ventham in a episode of The Saint on the RTV
cable channel.  If you live in the Mountain or West Coast time zone you might
beable to catch it still.
    In the episode she plays Laura Stride whose father is the secret head of a
underworld organization called The Latini.  This puts her in danger when one of
his men wants to take over and its up to Simon Templar to rescue her.
James K.




________________________________
From: Deborah Rorabaugh <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Mon, August 15, 2011 9:11:42 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 
As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

_____

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:01 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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Hi Deb - I get the impression that there are certain people who seem to think that they know ALL the canon connected to UFO and that a writer MUST maintain their POVs. With only 26 eps there isn't alot of canon. It's been maybe 2 yrs since I watched all the eps (well, 25 of them - I never watch TCWTL), and I know Denise and Matt and others have finagled things when necessary - who hasn't. I know some writers who have given Straker a whole family of origin or married him off - is that canon either? But I don't think those stories are any less worthy of merit than any others. Some are extremely good and should be accepted as such. Besides, we know as fanfic authors our work isn't canon, any more than all those Star Trek novels were (Gene R said he didn't consider them canon at all), but why stop the creativity and fun?

Cheers, Pam



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Deborah Rorabaugh
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM
  Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia


   
  As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

  Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
  'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

  What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
  needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
  for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
  wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
  North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
  in things he probably knew better.)

  _____

  From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pam
  McCaughey
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:01 AM
  To: [hidden email]
  Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

  I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
  specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
  Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
  - this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
  to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
  Pam

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I admit in my own works I will ignore certain things that don't work for the
story I want to tell. We all do. And that doesn't mean we don't know what's
actually in the eps, or that we're too dull to recognize when things doesn't
mesh with the Real World.

But it IS very annoying when a few come in and declare themselves experts
and imply the rest of us aren't bright for not recognizing the ultimate
truth of their inspiration.

There is one simple real determiner for canon - was it on the show? If you
can't point out which episode your 'facts' are from, then you shouldn't
claim that a fact is canon.

We all have versions of Straker's background (and Freeman and Foster, etc.)
that we use in our stories. And that's exactly as it should be. It's the
quality of the story being told that should count.

And there are a few quite popular fandoms where canon is barely an advisory.


 

  _____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:31 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 

 

Hi Deb - I get the impression that there are certain people who seem to
think that they know ALL the canon connected to UFO and that a writer MUST
maintain their POVs. With only 26 eps there isn't alot of canon. It's been
maybe 2 yrs since I watched all the eps (well, 25 of them - I never watch
TCWTL), and I know Denise and Matt and others have finagled things when
necessary - who hasn't. I know some writers who have given Straker a whole
family of origin or married him off - is that canon either? But I don't
think those stories are any less worthy of merit than any others. Some are
extremely good and should be accepted as such. Besides, we know as fanfic
authors our work isn't canon, any more than all those Star Trek novels were
(Gene R said he didn't consider them canon at all), but why stop the
creativity and fun?

Cheers, Pam

----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

_____

From: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:01 AM
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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i just saw that dumb broad fry the intercepter dude with her nuetrino telescope laser.
she just kept frying him in his parking orbit while the u.f.o. laughed. he didnt even know hwat was happening to him. she didnt even know that she was doing it either.
the sad part is that stuff like that happens all the time, and if you tried to do it on purpose no one would believe you at all.
jim

From: Deborah Rorabaugh <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia


 
I admit in my own works I will ignore certain things that don't work for the
story I want to tell. We all do. And that doesn't mean we don't know what's
actually in the eps, or that we're too dull to recognize when things doesn't
mesh with the Real World.

But it IS very annoying when a few come in and declare themselves experts
and imply the rest of us aren't bright for not recognizing the ultimate
truth of their inspiration.

There is one simple real determiner for canon - was it on the show? If you
can't point out which episode your 'facts' are from, then you shouldn't
claim that a fact is canon.

We all have versions of Straker's background (and Freeman and Foster, etc.)
that we use in our stories. And that's exactly as it should be. It's the
quality of the story being told that should count.

And there are a few quite popular fandoms where canon is barely an advisory.

_____

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:31 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Hi Deb - I get the impression that there are certain people who seem to
think that they know ALL the canon connected to UFO and that a writer MUST
maintain their POVs. With only 26 eps there isn't alot of canon. It's been
maybe 2 yrs since I watched all the eps (well, 25 of them - I never watch
TCWTL), and I know Denise and Matt and others have finagled things when
necessary - who hasn't. I know some writers who have given Straker a whole
family of origin or married him off - is that canon either? But I don't
think those stories are any less worthy of merit than any others. Some are
extremely good and should be accepted as such. Besides, we know as fanfic
authors our work isn't canon, any more than all those Star Trek novels were
(Gene R said he didn't consider them canon at all), but why stop the
creativity and fun?

Cheers, Pam

----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

_____

From: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:01 AM
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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I certainly hope people aren't being fried all the time by dumb broads
wielding neutrino telescope lasers - it would get old fast. *grin*

 

  _____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of .
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:26 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 

 

i just saw that dumb broad fry the intercepter dude with her nuetrino
telescope laser.
she just kept frying him in his parking orbit while the u.f.o. laughed. he
didnt even know hwat was happening to him. she didnt even know that she was
doing it either.
the sad part is that stuff like that happens all the time, and if you tried
to do it on purpose no one would believe you at all.
jim

From: Deborah Rorabaugh <[hidden email] <mailto:momkat%40dandello.net>
>
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 
I admit in my own works I will ignore certain things that don't work for the
story I want to tell. We all do. And that doesn't mean we don't know what's
actually in the eps, or that we're too dull to recognize when things doesn't
mesh with the Real World.

But it IS very annoying when a few come in and declare themselves experts
and imply the rest of us aren't bright for not recognizing the ultimate
truth of their inspiration.

There is one simple real determiner for canon - was it on the show? If you
can't point out which episode your 'facts' are from, then you shouldn't
claim that a fact is canon.

We all have versions of Straker's background (and Freeman and Foster, etc.)
that we use in our stories. And that's exactly as it should be. It's the
quality of the story being told that should count.

And there are a few quite popular fandoms where canon is barely an advisory.

_____

From: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:31 PM
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Hi Deb - I get the impression that there are certain people who seem to
think that they know ALL the canon connected to UFO and that a writer MUST
maintain their POVs. With only 26 eps there isn't alot of canon. It's been
maybe 2 yrs since I watched all the eps (well, 25 of them - I never watch
TCWTL), and I know Denise and Matt and others have finagled things when
necessary - who hasn't. I know some writers who have given Straker a whole
family of origin or married him off - is that canon either? But I don't
think those stories are any less worthy of merit than any others. Some are
extremely good and should be accepted as such. Besides, we know as fanfic
authors our work isn't canon, any more than all those Star Trek novels were
(Gene R said he didn't consider them canon at all), but why stop the
creativity and fun?

Cheers, Pam

----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

_____

From: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:01 AM
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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wasn’t she mind controlled? hypnotized with post hypnotic triggers?

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:51 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 
I certainly hope people aren't being fried all the time by dumb broads
wielding neutrino telescope lasers - it would get old fast. *grin*

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of .
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:26 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

i just saw that dumb broad fry the intercepter dude with her nuetrino
telescope laser.
she just kept frying him in his parking orbit while the u.f.o. laughed. he
didnt even know hwat was happening to him. she didnt even know that she was
doing it either.
the sad part is that stuff like that happens all the time, and if you tried
to do it on purpose no one would believe you at all.
jim

From: Deborah Rorabaugh <mailto:momkat%40dandello.net <mailto:momkat%40dandello.net>
>
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I admit in my own works I will ignore certain things that don't work for the
story I want to tell. We all do. And that doesn't mean we don't know what's
actually in the eps, or that we're too dull to recognize when things doesn't
mesh with the Real World.

But it IS very annoying when a few come in and declare themselves experts
and imply the rest of us aren't bright for not recognizing the ultimate
truth of their inspiration.

There is one simple real determiner for canon - was it on the show? If you
can't point out which episode your 'facts' are from, then you shouldn't
claim that a fact is canon.

We all have versions of Straker's background (and Freeman and Foster, etc.)
that we use in our stories. And that's exactly as it should be. It's the
quality of the story being told that should count.

And there are a few quite popular fandoms where canon is barely an advisory.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:31 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Hi Deb - I get the impression that there are certain people who seem to
think that they know ALL the canon connected to UFO and that a writer MUST
maintain their POVs. With only 26 eps there isn't alot of canon. It's been
maybe 2 yrs since I watched all the eps (well, 25 of them - I never watch
TCWTL), and I know Denise and Matt and others have finagled things when
necessary - who hasn't. I know some writers who have given Straker a whole
family of origin or married him off - is that canon either? But I don't
think those stories are any less worthy of merit than any others. Some are
extremely good and should be accepted as such. Besides, we know as fanfic
authors our work isn't canon, any more than all those Star Trek novels were
(Gene R said he didn't consider them canon at all), but why stop the
creativity and fun?

Cheers, Pam

----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:01 AM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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Pretty sure that's the one he's talking about - Sarah Bosenquet. Which means
interceptor dude was Steve Minto.

 

  _____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Bruce Sherman
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:55 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 

 

wasn't she mind controlled? hypnotized with post hypnotic triggers?

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:51 PM
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>  
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I certainly hope people aren't being fried all the time by dumb broads
wielding neutrino telescope lasers - it would get old fast. *grin*

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of .
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:26 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

i just saw that dumb broad fry the intercepter dude with her nuetrino
telescope laser.
she just kept frying him in his parking orbit while the u.f.o. laughed. he
didnt even know hwat was happening to him. she didnt even know that she was
doing it either.
the sad part is that stuff like that happens all the time, and if you tried
to do it on purpose no one would believe you at all.
jim

From: Deborah Rorabaugh <mailto:momkat%40dandello.net
<mailto:momkat%40dandello.net>
>
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I admit in my own works I will ignore certain things that don't work for the
story I want to tell. We all do. And that doesn't mean we don't know what's
actually in the eps, or that we're too dull to recognize when things doesn't
mesh with the Real World.

But it IS very annoying when a few come in and declare themselves experts
and imply the rest of us aren't bright for not recognizing the ultimate
truth of their inspiration.

There is one simple real determiner for canon - was it on the show? If you
can't point out which episode your 'facts' are from, then you shouldn't
claim that a fact is canon.

We all have versions of Straker's background (and Freeman and Foster, etc.)
that we use in our stories. And that's exactly as it should be. It's the
quality of the story being told that should count.

And there are a few quite popular fandoms where canon is barely an advisory.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:31 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Hi Deb - I get the impression that there are certain people who seem to
think that they know ALL the canon connected to UFO and that a writer MUST
maintain their POVs. With only 26 eps there isn't alot of canon. It's been
maybe 2 yrs since I watched all the eps (well, 25 of them - I never watch
TCWTL), and I know Denise and Matt and others have finagled things when
necessary - who hasn't. I know some writers who have given Straker a whole
family of origin or married him off - is that canon either? But I don't
think those stories are any less worthy of merit than any others. Some are
extremely good and should be accepted as such. Besides, we know as fanfic
authors our work isn't canon, any more than all those Star Trek novels were
(Gene R said he didn't consider them canon at all), but why stop the
creativity and fun?

Cheers, Pam

----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:01 AM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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Cmdr. Lake is keeping an eye on her.  She is acting normally, then like a switch is thrown, almost turns into a robot, walks around her apartment in a zombie like trance.  Looks like some type of mind control to me.  Perhaps they used that her father was still alive, allowed the aliens to program her??

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:04 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 
Pretty sure that's the one he's talking about - Sarah Bosenquet. Which means
interceptor dude was Steve Minto.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce Sherman
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:55 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

wasn't she mind controlled? hypnotized with post hypnotic triggers?

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:51 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I certainly hope people aren't being fried all the time by dumb broads
wielding neutrino telescope lasers - it would get old fast. *grin*

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of .
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:26 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

i just saw that dumb broad fry the intercepter dude with her nuetrino
telescope laser.
she just kept frying him in his parking orbit while the u.f.o. laughed. he
didnt even know hwat was happening to him. she didnt even know that she was
doing it either.
the sad part is that stuff like that happens all the time, and if you tried
to do it on purpose no one would believe you at all.
jim

From: Deborah Rorabaugh <mailto:momkat%40dandello.net
<mailto:momkat%40dandello.net>
>
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I admit in my own works I will ignore certain things that don't work for the
story I want to tell. We all do. And that doesn't mean we don't know what's
actually in the eps, or that we're too dull to recognize when things doesn't
mesh with the Real World.

But it IS very annoying when a few come in and declare themselves experts
and imply the rest of us aren't bright for not recognizing the ultimate
truth of their inspiration.

There is one simple real determiner for canon - was it on the show? If you
can't point out which episode your 'facts' are from, then you shouldn't
claim that a fact is canon.

We all have versions of Straker's background (and Freeman and Foster, etc.)
that we use in our stories. And that's exactly as it should be. It's the
quality of the story being told that should count.

And there are a few quite popular fandoms where canon is barely an advisory.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:31 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Hi Deb - I get the impression that there are certain people who seem to
think that they know ALL the canon connected to UFO and that a writer MUST
maintain their POVs. With only 26 eps there isn't alot of canon. It's been
maybe 2 yrs since I watched all the eps (well, 25 of them - I never watch
TCWTL), and I know Denise and Matt and others have finagled things when
necessary - who hasn't. I know some writers who have given Straker a whole
family of origin or married him off - is that canon either? But I don't
think those stories are any less worthy of merit than any others. Some are
extremely good and should be accepted as such. Besides, we know as fanfic
authors our work isn't canon, any more than all those Star Trek novels were
(Gene R said he didn't consider them canon at all), but why stop the
creativity and fun?

Cheers, Pam

----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:01 AM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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"Dumb broad?" Careful Jim, that statement could give offense to the ladies, and we have quite a few in our group. *very big grin*

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." *snicker*

Matt :)


--- In [hidden email], "Deborah Rorabaugh" <momkat@...> wrote:

thats another thing!!!!
she is revolving around her apt like a ufo!!!!!!
frying astronauts, walking around like a spinner. sending messages to the aliens.
i dont know whats become of the world.
jim

From: Bruce Sherman <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia


 
Cmdr. Lake is keeping an eye on her. She is acting normally, then like a switch is thrown, almost turns into a robot, walks around her apartment in a zombie like trance. Looks like some type of mind control to me. Perhaps they used that her father was still alive, allowed the aliens to program her??

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:04 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Pretty sure that's the one he's talking about - Sarah Bosenquet. Which means
interceptor dude was Steve Minto.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce Sherman
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:55 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

wasn't she mind controlled? hypnotized with post hypnotic triggers?

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:51 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I certainly hope people aren't being fried all the time by dumb broads
wielding neutrino telescope lasers - it would get old fast. *grin*

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of .
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:26 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

i just saw that dumb broad fry the intercepter dude with her nuetrino
telescope laser.
she just kept frying him in his parking orbit while the u.f.o. laughed. he
didnt even know hwat was happening to him. she didnt even know that she was
doing it either.
the sad part is that stuff like that happens all the time, and if you tried
to do it on purpose no one would believe you at all.
jim

From: Deborah Rorabaugh <mailto:momkat%40dandello.net
<mailto:momkat%40dandello.net>
>
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I admit in my own works I will ignore certain things that don't work for the
story I want to tell. We all do. And that doesn't mean we don't know what's
actually in the eps, or that we're too dull to recognize when things doesn't
mesh with the Real World.

But it IS very annoying when a few come in and declare themselves experts
and imply the rest of us aren't bright for not recognizing the ultimate
truth of their inspiration.

There is one simple real determiner for canon - was it on the show? If you
can't point out which episode your 'facts' are from, then you shouldn't
claim that a fact is canon.

We all have versions of Straker's background (and Freeman and Foster, etc.)
that we use in our stories. And that's exactly as it should be. It's the
quality of the story being told that should count.

And there are a few quite popular fandoms where canon is barely an advisory.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:31 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Hi Deb - I get the impression that there are certain people who seem to
think that they know ALL the canon connected to UFO and that a writer MUST
maintain their POVs. With only 26 eps there isn't alot of canon. It's been
maybe 2 yrs since I watched all the eps (well, 25 of them - I never watch
TCWTL), and I know Denise and Matt and others have finagled things when
necessary - who hasn't. I know some writers who have given Straker a whole
family of origin or married him off - is that canon either? But I don't
think those stories are any less worthy of merit than any others. Some are
extremely good and should be accepted as such. Besides, we know as fanfic
authors our work isn't canon, any more than all those Star Trek novels were
(Gene R said he didn't consider them canon at all), but why stop the
creativity and fun?

Cheers, Pam

----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:01 AM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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Aren't you glad it's only make-believe? *grin*

 

  _____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of .
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:23 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 

 

thats another thing!!!!
she is revolving around her apt like a ufo!!!!!!
frying astronauts, walking around like a spinner. sending messages to the
aliens.
i dont know whats become of the world.
jim

From: Bruce Sherman <[hidden email]
<mailto:brucesherman%40sprintmail.com> >
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 
Cmdr. Lake is keeping an eye on her. She is acting normally, then like a
switch is thrown, almost turns into a robot, walks around her apartment in a
zombie like trance. Looks like some type of mind control to me. Perhaps they
used that her father was still alive, allowed the aliens to program her??

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:04 PM
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>  
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Pretty sure that's the one he's talking about - Sarah Bosenquet. Which means
interceptor dude was Steve Minto.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of
Bruce Sherman
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:55 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

wasn't she mind controlled? hypnotized with post hypnotic triggers?

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:51 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I certainly hope people aren't being fried all the time by dumb broads
wielding neutrino telescope lasers - it would get old fast. *grin*

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of .
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:26 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

i just saw that dumb broad fry the intercepter dude with her nuetrino
telescope laser.
she just kept frying him in his parking orbit while the u.f.o. laughed. he
didnt even know hwat was happening to him. she didnt even know that she was
doing it either.
the sad part is that stuff like that happens all the time, and if you tried
to do it on purpose no one would believe you at all.
jim

From: Deborah Rorabaugh <mailto:momkat%40dandello.net
<mailto:momkat%40dandello.net>
>
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I admit in my own works I will ignore certain things that don't work for the
story I want to tell. We all do. And that doesn't mean we don't know what's
actually in the eps, or that we're too dull to recognize when things doesn't
mesh with the Real World.

But it IS very annoying when a few come in and declare themselves experts
and imply the rest of us aren't bright for not recognizing the ultimate
truth of their inspiration.

There is one simple real determiner for canon - was it on the show? If you
can't point out which episode your 'facts' are from, then you shouldn't
claim that a fact is canon.

We all have versions of Straker's background (and Freeman and Foster, etc.)
that we use in our stories. And that's exactly as it should be. It's the
quality of the story being told that should count.

And there are a few quite popular fandoms where canon is barely an advisory.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:31 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Hi Deb - I get the impression that there are certain people who seem to
think that they know ALL the canon connected to UFO and that a writer MUST
maintain their POVs. With only 26 eps there isn't alot of canon. It's been
maybe 2 yrs since I watched all the eps (well, 25 of them - I never watch
TCWTL), and I know Denise and Matt and others have finagled things when
necessary - who hasn't. I know some writers who have given Straker a whole
family of origin or married him off - is that canon either? But I don't
think those stories are any less worthy of merit than any others. Some are
extremely good and should be accepted as such. Besides, we know as fanfic
authors our work isn't canon, any more than all those Star Trek novels were
(Gene R said he didn't consider them canon at all), but why stop the
creativity and fun?

Cheers, Pam

----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

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Of Pam
McCaughey
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Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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Only make believe.  Seen any guys in black suits and sunglass with intials for
names and a sudden flash of very bright light Deb?
James K.



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From: Deborah Rorabaugh <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, August 16, 2011 6:00:23 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

 
Aren't you glad it's only make-believe? *grin*

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of .
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

thats another thing!!!!
she is revolving around her apt like a ufo!!!!!!
frying astronauts, walking around like a spinner. sending messages to the
aliens.
i dont know whats become of the world.
jim

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Cmdr. Lake is keeping an eye on her. She is acting normally, then like a
switch is thrown, almost turns into a robot, walks around her apartment in a
zombie like trance. Looks like some type of mind control to me. Perhaps they
used that her father was still alive, allowed the aliens to program her??

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:04 PM
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Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Pretty sure that's the one he's talking about - Sarah Bosenquet. Which means
interceptor dude was Steve Minto.

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On Behalf Of
Bruce Sherman
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:55 PM
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wasn't she mind controlled? hypnotized with post hypnotic triggers?

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:51 PM
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Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I certainly hope people aren't being fried all the time by dumb broads
wielding neutrino telescope lasers - it would get old fast. *grin*

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On Behalf Of .
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:26 PM
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i just saw that dumb broad fry the intercepter dude with her nuetrino
telescope laser.
she just kept frying him in his parking orbit while the u.f.o. laughed. he
didnt even know hwat was happening to him. she didnt even know that she was
doing it either.
the sad part is that stuff like that happens all the time, and if you tried
to do it on purpose no one would believe you at all.
jim

From: Deborah Rorabaugh <mailto:momkat%40dandello.net
<mailto:momkat%40dandello.net>
>
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I admit in my own works I will ignore certain things that don't work for the
story I want to tell. We all do. And that doesn't mean we don't know what's
actually in the eps, or that we're too dull to recognize when things doesn't
mesh with the Real World.

But it IS very annoying when a few come in and declare themselves experts
and imply the rest of us aren't bright for not recognizing the ultimate
truth of their inspiration.

There is one simple real determiner for canon - was it on the show? If you
can't point out which episode your 'facts' are from, then you shouldn't
claim that a fact is canon.

We all have versions of Straker's background (and Freeman and Foster, etc.)
that we use in our stories. And that's exactly as it should be. It's the
quality of the story being told that should count.

And there are a few quite popular fandoms where canon is barely an advisory.

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Behalf
Of Pam
McCaughey
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

Hi Deb - I get the impression that there are certain people who seem to
think that they know ALL the canon connected to UFO and that a writer MUST
maintain their POVs. With only 26 eps there isn't alot of canon. It's been
maybe 2 yrs since I watched all the eps (well, 25 of them - I never watch
TCWTL), and I know Denise and Matt and others have finagled things when
necessary - who hasn't. I know some writers who have given Straker a whole
family of origin or married him off - is that canon either? But I don't
think those stories are any less worthy of merit than any others. Some are
extremely good and should be accepted as such. Besides, we know as fanfic
authors our work isn't canon, any more than all those Star Trek novels were
(Gene R said he didn't consider them canon at all), but why stop the
creativity and fun?

Cheers, Pam

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From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

As I recall, you tend to leave his age rather vague anyway.

Unfortunately, it's the people who demand that everyone bow to their
'inspired words of knowledge' that create issues.

What one person needs to make their stories work is rarely what another one
needs. (Personally, I prefer Straker born around 1936-'37. Still very young
for his rank, but not so young that I have to invoke a Presidential magic
wand to get him to a rank we don't actually see him needing. I mean, Ollie
North was a Lt. Col when he was advising Nixon and getting himself mixed up
in things he probably knew better.)

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Of Pam
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Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: The Ed Straker Herald & SHADOpedia

I'm with you - I don't recall Straker's age ever being mentioned
specifically in the 26 eps. If I need to decide his age, I usually go by Ed
Bishop's age and boost it ten yrs to make him born in the 40's not the 30's
- this is because I've done so many post-series time lines that I NEED him
to be in his 60's rather than in his 70's. However, this is just me. Hugs,
Pam

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Would you remember if you had?

;^)


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Billy Killian wrote:
> Only make believe.  Seen any guys in black suits and sunglass with intials for
> names and a sudden flash of very bright light Deb?
> James K.



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