possible alien explanation

i dont know.......
maybe this will work,
as the alien's planet died, they went insane and started a automatic mechanised colonization plan, but they realized that they were also dying and couldnt live on other planets. so they copied thier emotional and brain patterns on a scheduled basis, into thier technology, and before they died they became extreemely insane and desperate to get to earth. all they left behind are machines with insane desperate computer programs making ufos with personas, that dont even know that they are long dead 'electronic ghosts', and then, the show's story goes on. but i would also like to consider that there are other aliens involved too, being used and also making interventions on their invasion fleets.
jim

I propose a different option.

There are those aliens that are Frankenstein creatures made with Earth parts & then ones that possess Earth bodies when they get here.

Perhaps there were too different nations (or even types) of aliens from the same world?  First one nation tried & failed; then the other gave it a go?

My 2¢
Matt

--- In [hidden email], "aquaboi@..." <aquaboi@...> wrote:
>
> i dont know.......
> maybe this will work,
> as the alien's planet died, they went insane and started a automatic mechanised colonization plan, but they realized that they were also dying and couldnt live on other planets. so they copied thier emotional and brain patterns on a scheduled basis, into thier technology, and before they died they became extreemely insane and desperate to get to earth. all they left behind are machines with insane desperate computer programs making ufos with personas, that dont even know that they are long dead 'electronic ghosts', and then, the show's story goes on. but i would also like to consider that there are other aliens involved too, being used and also making interventions on their invasion fleets.
> jim
>

thats good too!
now that we got the ball rolling, lets go a little further with it.
we got frankenstiens, burnt brains, green light abducted on the saucer brainwashed suicide bombers, and traitors. the are desperate, they need to come to earth, the broadcast old blind ladies to shadow. they are usually silent, they can work with us if they are stranded on the moon. and they can live in a cat's mind, or brainwash a cat to be like them. their underwater domes are a big hint. i think it is light rather than pressure. they land in shady forrests, light......helium , hydrogen, heat. brightness. photonic bombardment.
anything ive missed?
jim

--- On Tue, 2/15/11, ben_the_bear <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: ben_the_bear <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 7:42 AM


 



I propose a different option.

There are those aliens that are Frankenstein creatures made with Earth parts & then ones that possess Earth bodies when they get here.

Perhaps there were too different nations (or even types) of aliens from the same world? First one nation tried & failed; then the other gave it a go?

My 2¢
Matt

--- In [hidden email], "aquaboi@..." <aquaboi@...> wrote:
>
> i dont know.......
> maybe this will work,
> as the alien's planet died, they went insane and started a automatic mechanised colonization plan, but they realized that they were also dying and couldnt live on other planets. so they copied thier emotional and brain patterns on a scheduled basis, into thier technology, and before they died they became extreemely insane and desperate to get to earth. all they left behind are machines with insane desperate computer programs making ufos with personas, that dont even know that they are long dead 'electronic ghosts', and then, the show's story goes on. but i would also like to consider that there are other aliens involved too, being used and also making interventions on their invasion fleets.
> jim
>








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Maybe the two types were competing species and the reason that their planet is in such a bad way as to warrant travelling all the way to Earth is a civil war between the two (shades of ST:TOS “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield”).

 

I often wonder how we would handle another sentient technological species living on Earth.  Or perhaps the fact that only Homo Sapiens Sapiens remains extant is itself the answer.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 7:03 AM
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thats good too!
now that we got the ball rolling, lets go a little further with it.
we got frankenstiens, burnt brains, green light abducted on the saucer brainwashed suicide bombers, and traitors. the are desperate, they need to come to earth, the broadcast old blind ladies to shadow. they are usually silent, they can work with us if they are stranded on the moon. and they can live in a cat's mind, or brainwash a cat to be like them. their underwater domes are a big hint. i think it is light rather than pressure. they land in shady forrests, light......helium , hydrogen, heat. brightness. photonic bombardment.
anything ive missed?
jim

--- On Tue, 2/15/11, ben_the_bear <[hidden email] <mailto:ben_the_bear%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

From: ben_the_bear <[hidden email] <mailto:ben_the_bear%40yahoo.com> >
Subject: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 7:42 AM

 

I propose a different option.

There are those aliens that are Frankenstein creatures made with Earth parts & then ones that possess Earth bodies when they get here.

Perhaps there were too different nations (or even types) of aliens from the same world? First one nation tried & failed; then the other gave it a go?

My 2¢
Matt

--- In [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> , "aquaboi@..." <aquaboi@...> wrote:
>
> i dont know.......
> maybe this will work,
> as the alien's planet died, they went insane and started a automatic mechanised colonization plan, but they realized that they were also dying and couldnt live on other planets. so they copied thier emotional and brain patterns on a scheduled basis, into thier technology, and before they died they became extreemely insane and desperate to get to earth. all they left behind are machines with insane desperate computer programs making ufos with personas, that dont even know that they are long dead 'electronic ghosts', and then, the show's story goes on. but i would also like to consider that there are other aliens involved too, being used and also making interventions on their invasion fleets.
> jim
>

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thats a really open ended comment, but it leaves a lot to speculate about. what kind of a civil war would say,a silicate race have? some kind of crystal that absorbed and expelled light instead of gases and chemicals?
competition for ?
two different kinds of life on the same world that could compete and war against each other ,....silicate and mammilian?
ghosts and the living?
one race insane or part of a race insane, and the other not?
and interesting topic to pursue.
jim

--- On Tue, 2/15/11, David Richards <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: David Richards <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 12:59 PM


 



Maybe the two types were competing species and the reason that their planet is in such a bad way as to warrant travelling all the way to Earth is a civil war between the two (shades of ST:TOS “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield”).

I often wonder how we would handle another sentient technological species living on Earth. Or perhaps the fact that only Homo Sapiens Sapiens remains extant is itself the answer.

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of .
Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 7:03 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation

thats good too!
now that we got the ball rolling, lets go a little further with it.
we got frankenstiens, burnt brains, green light abducted on the saucer brainwashed suicide bombers, and traitors. the are desperate, they need to come to earth, the broadcast old blind ladies to shadow. they are usually silent, they can work with us if they are stranded on the moon. and they can live in a cat's mind, or brainwash a cat to be like them. their underwater domes are a big hint. i think it is light rather than pressure. they land in shady forrests, light......helium , hydrogen, heat. brightness. photonic bombardment.
anything ive missed?
jim

--- On Tue, 2/15/11, ben_the_bear <[hidden email] <mailto:ben_the_bear%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

From: ben_the_bear <[hidden email] <mailto:ben_the_bear%40yahoo.com> >
Subject: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 7:42 AM

I propose a different option.

There are those aliens that are Frankenstein creatures made with Earth parts & then ones that possess Earth bodies when they get here.

Perhaps there were too different nations (or even types) of aliens from the same world? First one nation tried & failed; then the other gave it a go?

My 2¢
Matt

--- In [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> , "aquaboi@..." <aquaboi@...> wrote:
>
> i dont know.......
> maybe this will work,
> as the alien's planet died, they went insane and started a automatic mechanised colonization plan, but they realized that they were also dying and couldnt live on other planets. so they copied thier emotional and brain patterns on a scheduled basis, into thier technology, and before they died they became extreemely insane and desperate to get to earth. all they left behind are machines with insane desperate computer programs making ufos with personas, that dont even know that they are long dead 'electronic ghosts', and then, the show's story goes on. but i would also like to consider that there are other aliens involved too, being used and also making interventions on their invasion fleets.
> jim
>

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Okay, this is pretty radicalbut I have heard a lot of unorthodox explanations, I particularly liked the ghosts in the machine scenario) but this is my hypothesis. I have thought long and hard about this and hope I am not stepping on anyone's toes here.

The Aliens are not aliens as such. They appear to be because they are space travellers. They are humanoid and very similar to us. The reason being is they are US. No temporal anomaly here, it is a bit more convoluted than that. I propose that eons ago long before the birth of recorded history, before The Aztecs, The Myans, Greeks and Egytians there was a technocracy of advanced sophistication on Earth. They had developed Interstella flight, had advanced socities and so on. Unfortunately like us they were also warlike, power hungry, and in some ways paranoid. Eventually there was a war, or many skirmishess and battles. Over the centuries  those who were left found the destruction they imposed upon themselves had damaged The Earth's environmental harmony and was not compatible for a technological civilisation that could no longer exist in the harshness of the new environment.

Taking what space faring vehicles they could find, a colony ventured out to the stars (or the nearest M class type planet with a yellow sun) and left the inhabitants of Earth to survive on whatever they could utilise.
Now, many millenia later they return to Earth to reclaim it; but they have been so substantially altered by living on another world, a world that can no longer support them, they are now sterile, and in some ways an alien culture. They may have had to radically alter there own bodies at a genetic level due to unknown radiation. Also, they found themselves becoming sterile and held it off as much as there medical and biological sciences could affect.
 A race of super homosapiens who have many thousands of years of knowledge (not 700 years as Straker proposes) but sterile and dying. They look to Earth as their own, the humans as a temporay stop to sterility and coporial death and decay. There is no malice or hate, just the undeniable need for SURVIVAL!.

I might be wrong. Enjoy!























--- On Tue, 2/15/11, . <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: . <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 9:29 PM







 



 


   
     
     
      thats a really open ended comment, but it leaves a lot to speculate about. what kind of a civil war would say,a silicate race have? some kind of crystal that absorbed and expelled light instead of gases and chemicals?

competition for ?

two different kinds of life on the same world that could compete and war against each other ,....silicate and mammilian?

ghosts and the living?

one race insane or part of a race insane, and the other not?

and interesting topic to pursue.

jim



--- On Tue, 2/15/11, David Richards <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: David Richards <[hidden email]>

Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation

To: [hidden email]

Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 12:59 PM



 



Maybe the two types were competing species and the reason that their planet is in such a bad way as to warrant travelling all the way to Earth is a civil war between the two (shades of ST:TOS “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield”).



I often wonder how we would handle another sentient technological species living on Earth. Or perhaps the fact that only Homo Sapiens Sapiens remains extant is itself the answer.



From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of .

Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 7:03 AM

To: [hidden email]

Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation



thats good too!

now that we got the ball rolling, lets go a little further with it.

we got frankenstiens, burnt brains, green light abducted on the saucer brainwashed suicide bombers, and traitors. the are desperate, they need to come to earth, the broadcast old blind ladies to shadow. they are usually silent, they can work with us if they are stranded on the moon. and they can live in a cat's mind, or brainwash a cat to be like them. their underwater domes are a big hint. i think it is light rather than pressure. they land in shady forrests, light......helium , hydrogen, heat. brightness. photonic bombardment.

anything ive missed?

jim



--- On Tue, 2/15/11, ben_the_bear <[hidden email] <mailto:ben_the_bear%40yahoo.com> > wrote:



From: ben_the_bear <[hidden email] <mailto:ben_the_bear%40yahoo.com> >

Subject: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation

To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 7:42 AM



I propose a different option.



There are those aliens that are Frankenstein creatures made with Earth parts & then ones that possess Earth bodies when they get here.



Perhaps there were too different nations (or even types) of aliens from the same world? First one nation tried & failed; then the other gave it a go?



My 2¢

Matt



--- In [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> , "aquaboi@..." <aquaboi@...> wrote:

>

> i dont know.......

> maybe this will work,

> as the alien's planet died, they went insane and started a automatic mechanised colonization plan, but they realized that they were also dying and couldnt live on other planets. so they copied thier emotional and brain patterns on a scheduled basis, into thier technology, and before they died they became extreemely insane and desperate to get to earth. all they left behind are machines with insane desperate computer programs making ufos with personas, that dont even know that they are long dead 'electronic ghosts', and then, the show's story goes on. but i would also like to consider that there are other aliens involved too, being used and also making interventions on their invasion fleets.

> jim

>



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that fits all the questions and makes logical sense, after all, we know how hard it is to interbreed species, all you get is mules. so them needing us because they are us, from very long ago makes a lot of logical sense.
maybe by combining the anwers here so far we can get a clean streamlined alien origons for a story going.
jim

--- On Wed, 2/16/11, Stevan Warburton <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Stevan Warburton <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation
To: [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 3:52 PM


 



Okay, this is pretty radicalbut I have heard a lot of unorthodox explanations, I particularly liked the ghosts in the machine scenario) but this is my hypothesis. I have thought long and hard about this and hope I am not stepping on anyone's toes here.

The Aliens are not aliens as such. They appear to be because they are space travellers. They are humanoid and very similar to us. The reason being is they are US. No temporal anomaly here, it is a bit more convoluted than that. I propose that eons ago long before the birth of recorded history, before The Aztecs, The Myans, Greeks and Egytians there was a technocracy of advanced sophistication on Earth. They had developed Interstella flight, had advanced socities and so on. Unfortunately like us they were also warlike, power hungry, and in some ways paranoid. Eventually there was a war, or many skirmishess and battles. Over the centuries  those who were left found the destruction they imposed upon themselves had damaged The Earth's environmental harmony and was not compatible for a technological civilisation that could no longer exist in the harshness of the new environment.

Taking what space faring vehicles they could find, a colony ventured out to the stars (or the nearest M class type planet with a yellow sun) and left the inhabitants of Earth to survive on whatever they could utilise.
Now, many millenia later they return to Earth to reclaim it; but they have been so substantially altered by living on another world, a world that can no longer support them, they are now sterile, and in some ways an alien culture. They may have had to radically alter there own bodies at a genetic level due to unknown radiation. Also, they found themselves becoming sterile and held it off as much as there medical and biological sciences could affect.
 A race of super homosapiens who have many thousands of years of knowledge (not 700 years as Straker proposes) but sterile and dying. They look to Earth as their own, the humans as a temporay stop to sterility and coporial death and decay. There is no malice or hate, just the undeniable need for SURVIVAL!.

I might be wrong. Enjoy!

--- On Tue, 2/15/11, . <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: . <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 9:29 PM

 

thats a really open ended comment, but it leaves a lot to speculate about. what kind of a civil war would say,a silicate race have? some kind of crystal that absorbed and expelled light instead of gases and chemicals?

competition for ?

two different kinds of life on the same world that could compete and war against each other ,....silicate and mammilian?

ghosts and the living?

one race insane or part of a race insane, and the other not?

and interesting topic to pursue.

jim

--- On Tue, 2/15/11, David Richards <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: David Richards <[hidden email]>

Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation

To: [hidden email]

Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 12:59 PM

 

Maybe the two types were competing species and the reason that their planet is in such a bad way as to warrant travelling all the way to Earth is a civil war between the two (shades of ST:TOS “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield”).

I often wonder how we would handle another sentient technological species living on Earth. Or perhaps the fact that only Homo Sapiens Sapiens remains extant is itself the answer.

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of .

Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 7:03 AM

To: [hidden email]

Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation

thats good too!

now that we got the ball rolling, lets go a little further with it.

we got frankenstiens, burnt brains, green light abducted on the saucer brainwashed suicide bombers, and traitors. the are desperate, they need to come to earth, the broadcast old blind ladies to shadow. they are usually silent, they can work with us if they are stranded on the moon. and they can live in a cat's mind, or brainwash a cat to be like them. their underwater domes are a big hint. i think it is light rather than pressure. they land in shady forrests, light......helium , hydrogen, heat. brightness. photonic bombardment.

anything ive missed?

jim

--- On Tue, 2/15/11, ben_the_bear <[hidden email] <mailto:ben_the_bear%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

From: ben_the_bear <[hidden email] <mailto:ben_the_bear%40yahoo.com> >

Subject: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation

To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 7:42 AM

I propose a different option.

There are those aliens that are Frankenstein creatures made with Earth parts & then ones that possess Earth bodies when they get here.

Perhaps there were too different nations (or even types) of aliens from the same world? First one nation tried & failed; then the other gave it a go?

My 2¢

Matt

--- In [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> , "aquaboi@..." <aquaboi@...> wrote:

>

> i dont know.......

> maybe this will work,

> as the alien's planet died, they went insane and started a automatic mechanised colonization plan, but they realized that they were also dying and couldnt live on other planets. so they copied thier emotional and brain patterns on a scheduled basis, into thier technology, and before they died they became extreemely insane and desperate to get to earth. all they left behind are machines with insane desperate computer programs making ufos with personas, that dont even know that they are long dead 'electronic ghosts', and then, the show's story goes on. but i would also like to consider that there are other aliens involved too, being used and also making interventions on their invasion fleets.

> jim

>

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Hi,
 
interesting discussion you have there :-)
 
As it always is - here's yet another possible scenario...
 
Personally I think that SHADO is dealing with different alien species, as we get aliens behaving differently, in different looking spaceships to boot. Only one species (those with the human bodies and red suits) appears to be outright aggressive and hostile.
 
If one species manages faster than light speed and travels space, it stands to reason that they are not the only ones able to do that in a vast universe.
 
I hold it with Jackson, and think the aggressive ones may have appropriated human bodies (possibly for the same reason a human body was adopted by the spacefarer in Stargate: they are easy to repair and maintain), raid Earth for "spare parts" and use them as a physical existence, as they themselves have turned into beings of pure energy (which sort of explains the sterility as well) without own bodies. Maybe they would like to take over Earth because our planet is teeming with life they could also thus use and have fun with.
 
As to the others, Straker more often than not shoots first and asks afterwards. So it may not be obvious to SHADO that they are dealing with different species, and Earth may have acquired a pretty bad reputation by now.
 
;-)
 
Cheers
 
An
 
 


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that fits all the questions and makes logical sense, after all, we know how hard it is to interbreed species, all you get is mules. so them needing us because they are us, from very long ago makes a lot of logical sense.
maybe by combining the anwers here so far we can get a clean streamlined alien origons for a story going.
jim

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It certainly resolves the question of why they harvest human organs. I like An's idea of several subspecies (if I interpreted it correctly) of Aliens visiting Earth and laying their  plans for domination and supremecy.

--- On Thu, 2/17/11, . <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: . <[hidden email]>
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To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 12:39 AM







 



 


   
     
     
      that fits all the questions and makes logical sense, after all, we know how hard it is to interbreed species, all you get is mules. so them needing us because they are us, from very long ago makes a lot of logical sense.

maybe by combining the anwers here so far we can get a clean streamlined alien origons for a story going.

jim



--- On Wed, 2/16/11, Stevan Warburton <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: Stevan Warburton <[hidden email]>

Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation

To: [hidden email]

Cc: [hidden email]

Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 3:52 PM



 



Okay, this is pretty radicalbut I have heard a lot of unorthodox explanations, I particularly liked the ghosts in the machine scenario) but this is my hypothesis. I have thought long and hard about this and hope I am not stepping on anyone's toes here.



The Aliens are not aliens as such. They appear to be because they are space travellers. They are humanoid and very similar to us. The reason being is they are US. No temporal anomaly here, it is a bit more convoluted than that. I propose that eons ago long before the birth of recorded history, before The Aztecs, The Myans, Greeks and Egytians there was a technocracy of advanced sophistication on Earth. They had developed Interstella flight, had advanced socities and so on. Unfortunately like us they were also warlike, power hungry, and in some ways paranoid. Eventually there was a war, or many skirmishess and battles. Over the centuries  those who were left found the destruction they imposed upon themselves had damaged The Earth's environmental harmony and was not compatible for a technological civilisation that could no longer exist in the harshness of the new environment.



Taking what space faring vehicles they could find, a colony ventured out to the stars (or the nearest M class type planet with a yellow sun) and left the inhabitants of Earth to survive on whatever they could utilise.

Now, many millenia later they return to Earth to reclaim it; but they have been so substantially altered by living on another world, a world that can no longer support them, they are now sterile, and in some ways an alien culture. They may have had to radically alter there own bodies at a genetic level due to unknown radiation. Also, they found themselves becoming sterile and held it off as much as there medical and biological sciences could affect.

 A race of super homosapiens who have many thousands of years of knowledge (not 700 years as Straker proposes) but sterile and dying. They look to Earth as their own, the humans as a temporay stop to sterility and coporial death and decay. There is no malice or hate, just the undeniable need for SURVIVAL!.



I might be wrong. Enjoy!



--- On Tue, 2/15/11, . <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: . <[hidden email]>

Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation

To: [hidden email]

Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 9:29 PM



 



thats a really open ended comment, but it leaves a lot to speculate about. what kind of a civil war would say,a silicate race have? some kind of crystal that absorbed and expelled light instead of gases and chemicals?



competition for ?



two different kinds of life on the same world that could compete and war against each other ,....silicate and mammilian?



ghosts and the living?



one race insane or part of a race insane, and the other not?



and interesting topic to pursue.



jim



--- On Tue, 2/15/11, David Richards <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: David Richards <[hidden email]>



Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation



To: [hidden email]



Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 12:59 PM



 



Maybe the two types were competing species and the reason that their planet is in such a bad way as to warrant travelling all the way to Earth is a civil war between the two (shades of ST:TOS “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield”).



I often wonder how we would handle another sentient technological species living on Earth. Or perhaps the fact that only Homo Sapiens Sapiens remains extant is itself the answer.



From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of .



Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 7:03 AM



To: [hidden email]



Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation



thats good too!



now that we got the ball rolling, lets go a little further with it.



we got frankenstiens, burnt brains, green light abducted on the saucer brainwashed suicide bombers, and traitors. the are desperate, they need to come to earth, the broadcast old blind ladies to shadow. they are usually silent, they can work with us if they are stranded on the moon. and they can live in a cat's mind, or brainwash a cat to be like them. their underwater domes are a big hint. i think it is light rather than pressure. they land in shady forrests, light......helium , hydrogen, heat. brightness. photonic bombardment.



anything ive missed?



jim



--- On Tue, 2/15/11, ben_the_bear <[hidden email] <mailto:ben_the_bear%40yahoo.com> > wrote:



From: ben_the_bear <[hidden email] <mailto:ben_the_bear%40yahoo.com> >



Subject: [SHADO] Re: possible alien explanation



To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>



Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 7:42 AM



I propose a different option.



There are those aliens that are Frankenstein creatures made with Earth parts & then ones that possess Earth bodies when they get here.



Perhaps there were too different nations (or even types) of aliens from the same world? First one nation tried & failed; then the other gave it a go?



My 2¢



Matt



--- In [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com> , "aquaboi@..." <aquaboi@...> wrote:



>



> i dont know.......



> maybe this will work,



> as the alien's planet died, they went insane and started a automatic mechanised colonization plan, but they realized that they were also dying and couldnt live on other planets. so they copied thier emotional and brain patterns on a scheduled basis, into thier technology, and before they died they became extreemely insane and desperate to get to earth. all they left behind are machines with insane desperate computer programs making ufos with personas, that dont even know that they are long dead 'electronic ghosts', and then, the show's story goes on. but i would also like to consider that there are other aliens involved too, being used and also making interventions on their invasion fleets.



> jim



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Hi Stevan,
 
yes. Though not even necessarily subspecies, just different ones. Where there is one (or rather two if you count humans in), why not more? Some of them also just seemed to "be there", instead of outright aggressive, more along the line of just being a bit nosy.
 
Cheers
 
An
 

 



It certainly resolves the question of why they harvest human organs. I like An's idea of several subspecies (if I interpreted it correctly) of Aliens visiting Earth and laying their  plans for domination and supremecy.




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maybe this is too ''Dr.whoish'' but what if a race achieved sentience in machines, and just used their bodies and others as drones,....sending them out to simply gain territory?
the desperation about survival would seem out of place with that though. but it might have a minor place in a scenario.
Jim

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Hi Stevan,
 
yes. Though not even necessarily subspecies, just different ones. Where there is one (or rather two if you count humans in), why not more? Some of them also just seemed to "be there", instead of outright aggressive, more along the line of just being a bit nosy.
 
Cheers
 
An
 

 

It certainly resolves the question of why they harvest human organs. I like An's idea of several subspecies (if I interpreted it correctly) of Aliens visiting Earth and laying their  plans for domination and supremecy.

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> I often wonder how we would handle another sentient technological species living on Earth.  Or perhaps the fact that only Homo Sapiens Sapiens remains extant is itself the answer.

David,
I've wondered as well.  In fact, my current story (it's not finished yet!) deals with Earth's other sentient race and how Straker handles meeting one of them. *grin*  It's a great plot line to pursue.
Denise

Deb wrote a great crossover story called "Harvest of the Planters" which gave an interesting point of view as to the origin and "history of the aliens.

Here is another twist, has anyone considered that the "aliens" may if fact be humans from the distant future?

i guess you would have to eliminate everything that we relate to on earth as common ground, and then what you would have left , would be things that are in common with something entirely alien, as a possibility. for example, for thousands of years , Europeans mostly considered themselves to be 'normal' and living in the proper way,....then they met the south seas cannibals. that alone was totally alien to both groups. imagine what the differences from living on another planet would be?
Jim

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--- In [hidden email], "David Richards" <dcr_au@...> wrote:
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> I often wonder how we would handle another sentient technological species living on Earth. Or perhaps the fact that only Homo Sapiens Sapiens remains extant is itself the answer.

David,
I've wondered as well. In fact, my current story (it's not finished yet!) deals with Earth's other sentient race and how Straker handles meeting one of them. *grin* It's a great plot line to pursue.
Denise








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> Here is another twist, has anyone considered that the "aliens" may if
> fact be humans from the distant future?

That would be a good twist for the UFO movie... :-)

Marc

yes , i did postulate that, but it doesnt seem to work out in most of the serie's postulations, except that they can use our organs for transplants. where can i read debs stories?
also it seems that the over-brain of the ufos and ufonauts are some kind of computer ghost or electronic program, or at least that ,  there are mission specific ones like that.
jim
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Deb wrote a great crossover story called "Harvest of the Planters" which gave an interesting point of view as to the origin and "history of the aliens.

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i want to throw this in, in one of the fan movies bound to be made, maybe by fighting the ufo's we actually create the disaster that the futurenauts need to come back in time to kill straker about. the desperate pleas'''''''WE NEED TO COME TO EARTH, DONT YOU UNDERSTAND''''''IT IS A MATTER OF SURVIVAL'''''' that the channelers blurt out in an emotional display bordering on insanity, could be that they dont relate to us because of a desperate viewpoint, and have narrowed thier vision to escape into the past. one thing is for sure, they just didnt want to tell us about it at all. the mystery of U.F.O. tv series is one of the most appealing aspects of the show to me.
jim

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> Here is another twist, has anyone considered that the "aliens" may if
> fact be humans from the distant future?

That would be a good twist for the UFO movie... :-)

Marc







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One major problem with time travel stories is that they are always flawed. If aliens came back from the future to 'harvest' humans, why choose to come to a time where humans are relatively technologically advanced?

Why not return to the Middle Ages, no pollution, easy 'pickings'. Or why not return to when Straker  was a child and kill him then? (Assuming that one of their prime reasons for coming to Earth was to destroy Straker?).

There would also be evidence of mutation, with the 'future' humans
being taller  for example, and this was not evident in the aliens that were recovered. If they were coming from the  future, they wouldn't need to come from outside the Solar System either.

It's an interesting idea, but one that isn't really supported by the facts in the series.


--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
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> > Here is another twist, has anyone considered that the "aliens" may if
> > fact be humans from the distant future?
>
> That would be a good twist for the UFO movie... :-)
>
> Marc
>

I agree with the time-travel problem.  There was a film called "The Final Countdown" produced in the 80's where Martin Sheen stated that if he were to "somehow go back in time and meet his grandfather. And upon meeting him, he has an argument with him and kills him.  If that were to happen, how could he ever be born?  And if he can never be born, how could he have gone back in time to kill his grandfather???

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One major problem with time travel stories is that they are always flawed. If aliens came back from the future to 'harvest' humans, why choose to come to a time where humans are relatively technologically advanced?

Why not return to the Middle Ages, no pollution, easy 'pickings'. Or why not return to when Straker was a child and kill him then? (Assuming that one of their prime reasons for coming to Earth was to destroy Straker?).

There would also be evidence of mutation, with the 'future' humans
being taller for example, and this was not evident in the aliens that were recovered. If they were coming from the future, they wouldn't need to come from outside the Solar System either.

It's an interesting idea, but one that isn't really supported by the facts in the series.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
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> > Here is another twist, has anyone considered that the "aliens" may if
> > fact be humans from the distant future?
>
> That would be a good twist for the UFO movie... :-)
>
> Marc
>





     

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i have a comment on the time travel, if they were unable to get a complete time-space lock on earth, they might launch into a near miss co-ordinant and then come zooming in from where ever they came into, say a few light months from earth.
jim

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One major problem with time travel stories is that they are always flawed. If aliens came back from the future to 'harvest' humans, why choose to come to a time where humans are relatively technologically advanced?

Why not return to the Middle Ages, no pollution, easy 'pickings'. Or why not return to when Straker was a child and kill him then? (Assuming that one of their prime reasons for coming to Earth was to destroy Straker?).

There would also be evidence of mutation, with the 'future' humans
being taller for example, and this was not evident in the aliens that were recovered. If they were coming from the future, they wouldn't need to come from outside the Solar System either.

It's an interesting idea, but one that isn't really supported by the facts in the series.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
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> > Here is another twist, has anyone considered that the "aliens" may if
> > fact be humans from the distant future?
>
> That would be a good twist for the UFO movie... :-)
>
> Marc
>








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